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 Top Gear+Proton+Perodua, = the truth...

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sphiroth
post Feb 15 2009, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Feb 15 2009, 03:51 PM)
That is the brain washed mentality that local car makers are trying to put into everyone's head.

You guys dont get it.

If you remove the protectionism, prices of other carmakers cars that is better in quality, performance, etc will be almost the same as what you pay for a Persona or Waja. Its nothing about whether Proton can make this or that. Its we're paying more, for less, because of the protection given to local car manufacturers.

Take out the high import duties on foreign car. Then with the same amount of money you are paying for a "mid range Proton" such as Gen2/Persona/Waja, you can get a better performing, better quality car. Wit 25 years, you'd expect Proton be able to provide a car that is at least comparable with other foreign manufacturers, but nooooo, protectionism made them sloppy and complacent.
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I agree that by removing protectionism malaysian car maker have to increase their quality of product to remain competitive. But that will also result in government tax collection which may reflect in increase of tax in other stuff.
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post Feb 15 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Feb 15 2009, 10:05 PM)
erroneous on every of the bolded ones.

1) go ahead then, buy urself bimmer. cannot afford? so shut the fxck up.

2) no improvement. this is blatantly a lie. i can make 20 improvements in a list that proton has been doing over 20 years back.

3) tin car or whatever, please shut up for the good of ur mother. 

i am not blaming him. mybe somesort of a retarded people coming here and think hes the smartest ass around. we all know about proton and how things been going on these years.
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Don't mind him (and people like him lar). Wasting time only. nod.gif
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post Feb 16 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(-҉- @ Feb 16 2009, 11:27 PM)
stop talking about shows ok, this thread obviously is out to bash proton/perodua, sure a lot a ppl who drive these cars...but they are poorly build.

so
1. govgay help (x)
2. 25++yrs time (x)
3. high tax on competitor cars (x)

all these help and proton still is proton, no improve, max give them 10 yrs but no improve much wasting tax ppl money...

if proton can sell a car on par with toyota withoout protection then proton can finally claim its place on this planet...

but 25++ yrs with all the help still cannot, why still waste time, many ppl know they will never be as good as toyota/honda let alone the germans
so stop feeding blood to a vampire that must die...
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I don't think gov really want to protect Proton by imposing high tax, its the income they generate from the tax. Protecting Proton is just an excuse to justify the high tax. And also to go income to cronies via the AP system.

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