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 ~~Budget Earphones/Headphones~~, Ear-/Headphones for the tight wallets

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viscy
post Feb 17 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(CLF @ Feb 14 2009, 02:01 AM)
My take:

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* CrossRoads MylarOne Bijou (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/776764) - one of the most frequently discussed IEM here.
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I seem to be the only one here seriously against the Bijou. I really, really dislike it.. No matter what bijou, 1, 2, 3 or 4, the bass all sounds really bloated and muddy, spoils the whole sound. To me it's a radical difference from the X3I, even though the bijou is supposed to be the successor(and in that matter, superior, i guess).

I much prefer the X3i, and simply don't like the bijou. I'm really guessing most of the people who love the bijous have never heard of the x3i, because it seems like crossroads took a step back when they designed the bijou to replace to x3i.

my friend had an x3i.. the cable died, and he went back to claim warranty. it got replaced by a bijou 3, which is supposed to be the replacement for the x3i, and he can't stand it as well. I also need to mention, barely a month after he got his new bijou 3, the cable started dying as well.

I heard the first batch of bijous were rushed out and there were serious quality control problems.. Like cables tearing, driver casing opening and stuff.

As you can tell I'm not too big a fan of crossroads products. biggrin.gif But I'd avoid it if i were you guys. All this is IMHO of course laugh.gif

This post has been edited by viscy: Feb 17 2009, 10:08 PM
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:19 PM

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different people, different taste sir....

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post Feb 18 2009, 11:55 AM

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Yup..Haha, not everyone's into heavy bass..Quoting another forumer who said this earlier on, "one man's meat is another man's poison". biggrin.gif haha

Fiio 5 I can get it for around 66rm in usa..good price? Or a Cmoy? ahh...so many choices..so limited funds..tongue.gif haha..
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post Feb 18 2009, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(killz23 @ Feb 18 2009, 11:55 AM)
Yup..Haha, not everyone's into heavy bass..Quoting another forumer who said this earlier on, "one man's meat is another man's poison". biggrin.gif haha

Fiio 5 I can get it for around 66rm in usa..good price? Or a Cmoy? ahh...so many choices..so limited funds..tongue.gif haha..
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very good indeed.. for the price... is it plus the mail etc2? if it is... then its worth it.... im using fiio E5 to drive my bijou 4, and its quite good i must say... the less bassy IEM now become as bassy as my bijou 3 but cleaner and warmer... a fun amp, as good as its price...
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post Feb 18 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(killz23 @ Feb 17 2009, 01:54 AM)
Haha, 8units??Hmm..don't know can bring to usa and sell or not hor..hahaha got market here you think?tongue.gif
haha the user already spoilt the EP830 ler..haha promoting bijou now tongue.gif


Added on February 17, 2009, 1:57 am

Oh, I see..I misplaced my eartips dy lar..haha, if not for the case, I would've used it too..darn tongue.gif

I'm using Megabass as well(P1i has megabass too!:D), and it sounds good when the feature is switched on. I agree, when the EQ is turned off, all sorts of crappy stuff runs out to play on the audio street..scary..Yea, I want to get an amp..but don't know which would be the best for optimum performance/price ratio..Which is the main reason this thread was created: to seek the best budget audiophile equipment biggrin.gif
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haha, can try and see can sell or not! haha.. how much it costs there?

and bout SE phone, i think its quite good if u r a bass head, the audio quality is there but not too clear.
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(roticanai92 @ Feb 18 2009, 03:38 PM)
haha, can try and see can sell or not! haha.. how much it costs there?

and bout SE phone, i think its quite good if u r a bass head, the audio quality is there but not too clear.
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So far haven't seen anyone asking for it here..Will try look around biggrin.gif haha..yea, for bassheads, SE stock earphones are good..and the phones are good too, provided they have Megabass feature turned on..

As i'm primarily using my SE p1i for music purposes, will a fiio 5 amp be any use?
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:20 PM

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i still waiting to confirm for the Fiio E5 amp, but from what i read it's quite good to be paired up with IEM. big cans however, may not benefit much from this portable amp though.
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(viscy @ Feb 17 2009, 10:07 PM)
I seem to be the only one here seriously against the Bijou. I really, really dislike it.. No matter what bijou, 1, 2, 3 or 4, the bass all sounds really bloated and muddy, spoils the whole sound. To me it's a radical difference from the X3I, even though the bijou is supposed to be the successor(and in that matter, superior, i guess).

I much prefer the X3i, and simply don't like the bijou. I'm really guessing most of the people who love the bijous have never heard of the x3i, because it seems like crossroads took a step back when they designed the bijou to replace to x3i.

my friend had an x3i.. the cable died, and he went back to claim warranty. it got replaced by a bijou 3, which is supposed to be the replacement for the x3i, and he can't stand it as well. I also need to mention, barely a month after he got his new bijou 3, the cable started dying as well.

I heard the first batch of bijous were rushed out and there were serious quality control problems.. Like cables tearing, driver casing opening and stuff.

As you can tell I'm not too big a fan of crossroads products. biggrin.gif But I'd avoid it if i were you guys. All this is IMHO of course  laugh.gif
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i'm a X3 then changed to X3i then now a user for Bijou

my take is...

well... there's improvement on bijou definitely... X3i doesn't have enough bass to support other genre... as it's more focused on treble... thus there's Bijou Level 3 with added bass punch...

now with bijou... u can listen to all type of music be it pop / jazz / rock / punk / R&B n etc

maybe ur fren was the 1st batch so QC wasn't good. i got mine last year... and already going to be 1 year old... so far my cable is still going strong.
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post Feb 18 2009, 07:39 PM

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so far my Bijou sounded very nice to me, so it's either purely personal preference or the built quality of the earphone itself.



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post Feb 18 2009, 08:50 PM

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well... level 3 is still kinda bassy...

so far reviews shows that the best all-rounder level is 4.. since it's the closest to the X3i so far...

level 3 is kinda like Xbi...

level 2 ( my friend's wan ) is kinda like Lbi

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post Feb 18 2009, 09:33 PM

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got to tell u.. bijou 4 is really good for vocals and instruments. it makes songs like hotel california-the eagles, another you-cromok, tears in heaven- eric clapton sounded so life like...

but still miss the bassy bass of bijou 3 (but using fiio E5 fixed the bass problem)

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post Feb 18 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(CLF @ Feb 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
i still waiting to confirm for the Fiio E5 amp, but from what i read it's quite good to be paired up with IEM. big cans however, may not benefit much from this portable amp though.
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Oh, really? Certain amps correspond better with certain types of earphones? That's new to me tongue.gif haha thanks! I'll be waiting for your recommendation on an amp for cans..haha..


Added on February 19, 2009, 2:59 amanyway, what do you guys think of PX100 compared to senn HD 201 and HD 212 pro..and KSC 75 of course tongue.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 10:27 am
QUOTE(CLF @ Feb 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
i still waiting to confirm for the Fiio E5 amp, but from what i read it's quite good to be paired up with IEM. big cans however, may not benefit much from this portable amp though.
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Yeah, I heard FIio 5 is only good for small portable players with sub $100 earphones...Shure SCL3, head direct RE2, KSC 75 etc...all these are earphones which could really benefit from the amp..I just ordered it from Dealextreme biggrin.gif can't wait for the amp to arrive..haha..

Anyone knows how to recable ksc 75? as i'm in the us, it's hard to find some1 to recable for me..So i'm thinking of venturing into recabling myself...

And By the way, I wana clarify...Sennheiser 212 pro actually sounds really really good...hahha..just have to set the correct EQ and good player to let it shine biggrin.gif cool.gif


Added on April 15, 2009, 2:10 pmMy Fiio E5 arrived dy!! sorry for the late post biggrin.gif hheehe..

Okay my current set up is

Creative Zen Vision M > E5 > Senn 212 pro..

Hmm..maybe my ears not so sensitive, but I cannot detect any noticeable difference..Although when I set it on Bass boost..There's a slightly more bass in the sound output..However, the bass is still kinda tight, doesn't sound very "loose" and diffused...

Is that what E5 is supposed to do ? tongue.gif hehehe..

Planning to get either a Senn HD 555 or E4C ler...Any advice?

*Oh no....getting more expensive cans dy...cham..

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post Apr 21 2009, 11:27 AM

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hey if compare crossroad mylarone bijou3 and ksc-75..
which one has more bass?
i actually dislike in ear..
it's kinda irritating.
.i actually find the ksc-75 better..
besides that i'm always walking around so if i take in ear i wouldn't be able to hear the surroundings..
haha..
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(isaaclimhw @ Apr 21 2009, 11:27 AM)
hey if compare crossroad mylarone bijou3 and ksc-75..
which one has more bass?
i actually dislike in ear..
it's kinda irritating.
.i actually find the ksc-75 better..
besides that i'm always walking around so if i take in ear i wouldn't be able to hear the surroundings..
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I've never tried Bijou so can't really give much comments..haha..If you don't like in ears, take the Senn HD 212 pro..It's great..The bass is really "thumping" ur skull..You can feel each beat, I mean EACH beat..so it's really fun to listen..haha..

If you're walking around type, then closed headphones and in ears shouldn be you consideration...hahah..too bad Senn HD 212 pro is closed...KSC 75's bass is really tight, although not as "bassy" as Senn HD 212 pro..Or EP 630 for that matter..hhaa.
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A Pcwork recabled KSC75 is always great anytime..Not so 'bassy' compare to other earphones..But I like it..


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post Apr 22 2009, 03:18 PM

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yeah i'm actually considering pcwork's ksc75..
but the colour a little attractive compared to the pure black colour..
that's the main reason why i'm hesitating now.. T.T

thanks for all of yr reply!
it really helped me a lot.. smile.gif

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post Apr 23 2009, 03:50 AM

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QUOTE(isaaclimhw @ Apr 22 2009, 03:18 PM)
yeah i'm actually considering pcwork's ksc75..
but the colour a little attractive compared to the pure black colour..
that's the main reason why i'm hesitating now.. T.T

thanks for all of yr reply!
it really helped me a lot.. smile.gif
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Haha pay a lil extra to get better colors or maybe can request different cables? Haha or you could wear light colored shirts to match the colorful cable..smile.gif


Added on April 23, 2009, 3:54 am
QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Apr 22 2009, 01:30 PM)
A Pcwork recabled KSC75 is always great anytime..Not so 'bassy' compare to other earphones..But I like it..
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I guess the bass is one of the slight drawbacks for this otherwise awesome headphone.. Has anyone tried the kramer mod? And the stock earpads cover up the driver, impeding the direct transmission of sound from driver to your delicate ears, to your soft hair cells..
I've seen some crazy mods on headfi.org..haha senn hd 414 pad mod and headband mod combined with recable and some major faciallift..phew..looks totally different

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i saw some people doing the kramer mod.. but i've not tried it myself.. haha.. i'm not good in this kind of things so ya..
i think after much consideration i think i'll buy from pc works.. haha..
do u think by buyin a fiio amp the bass can be boosted?
i think another reason why my sound won't be as good is because i'm using n82 to listen to my music.. no money buy mp3 player.. haha..
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post Apr 23 2009, 10:33 AM

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are u guys refering to the kramer mod of ksc75?
i am using it now biggrin.gif
i can conclude that, this kramer mod ksc75 with headband is like a baby turn into a monster~ rclxms.gif
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post Apr 23 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(TeOtq @ Apr 23 2009, 10:33 AM)
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are u guys refering to the kramer mod of ksc75?
i am using it now biggrin.gif
i can conclude that, this kramer mod ksc75 with headband is like a baby turn into a monster~ rclxms.gif
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Wow! Bro, how's you do that?? Did you do that yourself?
That's more than kramer + headband mod..hahaa...plus the earpad + recabling...I think you must've added some "extra" ingredients in that huh? xp

How does it sound like right now? Can compare with any pair of headphones? Grado Sr 60 or sr80? Sennheiser?

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