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ahtsong
post Mar 5 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 5 2009, 09:29 PM)
issit wit ballhead?
someone sell his tripod...benro...at alphanatics

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QUOTE(Zeegon @ Mar 5 2009, 09:31 PM)
Nop, not ballhead, 3 way pan head..
it moves around super smooth..
it feels super solid..
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I suggest benro A250 or A350 both have ball head...very nice and light weight (1.2kg+-)

i'm using A350 which serve me very well RM320 only and the A250 about RM260

the dif between is A350 slighter bigger and max load is 4kg, while A250 is 2.5kg
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(achew @ Mar 5 2009, 11:04 PM)
u mean normal printing shop??or adobe photoshop??lol
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Hahahahaha
photo shop or photoshop? tongue.gif
But i think he means weather RAW files can be printed in printing shop
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 5 2009, 09:40 PM)
remember bro....SONY flash....i spell for u S.O.N.Y....F58 rclxm9.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh yeah. i spell again also. S.O.N.Y F.58 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif haha. will alwaz remember.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 11:24 pm
QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Mar 5 2009, 09:49 PM)
u say i got money? hahaha... me oso poor la nicki... noticed a lot of alpha users get shocked wit dslr acc prices once they're in...
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Added on March 5, 2009, 9:52 pm

apakah itu time lapse potoglapi?
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millenia3000, no money nvm. can save money first , then buy.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Mar 5 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Mar 5 2009, 11:10 PM)
I suggest benro A250 or A350 both have ball head...very nice and light weight (1.2kg+-)

i'm using A350 which serve me very well RM320 only and the A250 about RM260

the dif between is A350 slighter bigger and max load is 4kg, while A250 is 2.5kg
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Owh. I dont really need ballhead guaa
the 3 way panhead should be sufficient enough..
I'll go test them all anyway. Gotta feel fell it biggrin.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Mar 5 2009, 11:10 PM)
I suggest benro A250 or A350 both have ball head...very nice and light weight (1.2kg+-)

i'm using A350 which serve me very well RM320 only and the A250 about RM260

the dif between is A350 slighter bigger and max load is 4kg, while A250 is 2.5kg
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2.5kg is too little imho
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ Mar 5 2009, 11:46 PM)
2.5kg is too little imho
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Is 4kg ok?
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post Mar 6 2009, 12:04 AM

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since tonite's topic is more about tripod n flash...
i was wondering...to those buddies with flash..actually how often u guys use ur flash??perhaps 70% of ur shooting?and when u shooting outdoor..im sure we don use flash sometimes...but do u guy keep the flash connected to the camera all the time??or u'll take it off when u nt really using it(for example outdoor)...

hehe..trying to know a lil bit more so i can self-poisoning =p so far i only felt the need of flash when i doing macro(ok..i need it badly for 1 of the wedding..but i rarely shoot photo for event..nt the photography style i like =p)..for the rest..i mostly do those outdoor portrait..landscape....and those...emm....weird stuff like the toy-box-robot thingy....
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post Mar 6 2009, 12:06 AM

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i mean do the printing shop print pictures that are in RAW format...just bought an a300 last month..

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QUOTE(Bow Wow Wow @ Mar 6 2009, 12:06 AM)
i mean do the printing shop print pictures that are in RAW format...just bought an a300 last month..
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for me..usually i choose to take in raw bcoz i need to do some post editing..edit contrast/vibrancy/slight compensation of exp/WB.....after that i;d keep a copy of the raw and another copy of the edited jpg...

from wad i understand in this case..if u wanna take raw n print it(im nt sure whether the shop could do it) den u might as well take jpg straight away???if the shop need to went thru some conversion to jpg b4 printing it out..u might nt know wad hav u lost during the process...
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god who is kind enough to tell me? btw, what is the best converter to convert RAW to JPG?
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post Mar 6 2009, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(achew @ Mar 6 2009, 12:04 AM)
since tonite's topic is more about tripod n flash...
i was wondering...to those buddies with flash..actually how often u guys use ur flash??perhaps 70% of ur shooting?and when u shooting outdoor..im sure we don use flash sometimes...but do u guy keep the flash connected to the camera all the time??or u'll take it off when u nt really using it(for example outdoor)...

hehe..trying to know a lil bit more so i can self-poisoning =p  so far i only felt the need of flash when i doing macro(ok..i need it badly for 1 of the wedding..but i rarely shoot photo for event..nt the photography style i like =p)..for the rest..i mostly do those outdoor portrait..landscape....and those...emm....weird stuff like the toy-box-robot thingy....
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Flash is helpful for outdoor as fill in. You can even try wireless flash to do some strobist shots. Usually when I don't need it, I'll just switch it off and leave it mounting on my body just in case I need it later on.


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post Mar 6 2009, 01:17 AM

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finally.... gave in to temptation....

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post Mar 6 2009, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 5 2009, 03:27 PM)
bro....u hp number still on ka?
why msg msg not reply reply
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aiyak bro.. sorry.. my phone rosak la sad.gif

QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 5 2009, 04:11 PM)
bro,,,,here the are.....

lens cover....1.2cmx1.2cm

body .....0.9cmx0.9cm
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thanks for the measurements bro icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Mar 5 2009, 04:21 PM)
aduh mamat signither ni mcm offline plak..
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looking for me?? unsure.gif

QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 5 2009, 04:36 PM)
where is signither ya bro......
i msg msg he dont reply
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Mar 5 2009, 11:10 PM)
I suggest benro A250 or A350 both have ball head...very nice and light weight (1.2kg+-)

i'm using A350 which serve me very well RM320 only and the A250 about RM260

the dif between is A350 slighter bigger and max load is 4kg, while A250 is 2.5kg
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RM320 is quite a good price, where do you got it?

Since we're talking about flash and tripod, might as well ask some sifus here.

Here's some shot I took during last year event, I'm going to shoot similar things soon but with F58 this time.

That time still new, scare pictures came out bad so just shoot without thinking much. One day took around 600 shots from morning 10am to 10pm, battery dry end of the day.

The Venue, Lowyat Plaza.
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1st try panning on people. Just for the fun, hard to master this skill.
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The venue during night
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Stage
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Now the here comes the question,

1. Do we use direct flash or bounce it?
2. If bounce, use build in bounce card, light sphere or demb diffusers?
3. Any guide on white balance? Quite tricky especially near to stage, the stage light kept changing.

Still learning a lot of stuffs, read a lot but can't remember all. Really need to shoot more so can imprint all the stuff I read in my mind.

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post Mar 6 2009, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(nles @ Mar 6 2009, 03:34 AM)
RM320 is quite a good price, where do you got it?

Since we're talking about flash and tripod, might as well ask some sifus here.

Here's some shot I took during last year event, I'm going to shoot similar things soon but with F58 this time.

That time still new, scare pictures came out bad so just shoot without thinking much. One day took around 600 shots from morning 10am to 10pm, battery dry end of the day.
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Now the here comes the question,

1. Do we use direct flash or bounce it?
2. If bounce, use build in bounce card, light sphere or demb diffusers?
3. Any guide on white balance? Quite tricky especially near to stage, the stage light kept changing.

Still learning a lot of stuffs, read a lot but can't remember all. Really need to shoot more so can imprint all the stuff I read in my mind.
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1. If there is nothing to bounce then of course you will need use direct already. But if can priority is bounce cause the flash light wont be so harsh

2. These bounce or DIY is up to you. I got use demb diffusers and bounce card. both are good got pro and cons and different coverage.

3. Page 1 on got white balance guide bit . for stage you can try to adjust to closest but you won't get the total correct value. Instead of correcting it...why not use the stage light as ambient to make mood on you picture.

Here are some stage picture. http://www.alphanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4317



From Page 1 :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.

Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You should be able to do this with practice.

With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!

M = Magenta
G = Green
2500K = Blue
9900K = Amber

Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K M9.

To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these methods, or a combination of them:

- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11)
- use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100)
- use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a second)
- use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash

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post Mar 6 2009, 04:58 AM

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Thx for the thorough guide mike. Hoping for more inputs.

Need to put more work on compositions also, look through alphanatics event trade. The shots I need to take a little different, for client one so need to include a lot of those sponsors logo and backdrop.


Anyway, for ppl interested in achew's toy.

It's called Danboard, revoltech series from Kaiyodo. I've collected some of them also but I'm more into mechas(robots)

Henrylow selling a few but dunno still available or not
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...30&hl=revoltech

There's also amazon version
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post Mar 6 2009, 05:46 AM

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hey,

if wireless flash, do we need additional item to make it wirelessly work? .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 6 2009, 05:46 AM)
hey,

if wireless flash, do we need additional item to make it wirelessly work? .. smile.gif ..
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no need....the flash gun will detect the light from the camera built in flash to work...


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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 6 2009, 05:46 AM)
hey,

if wireless flash, do we need additional item to make it wirelessly work? .. smile.gif ..
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u can either buy "off camera flash cable" thingy like an extension cord for flash to camera.... [1 flash only]
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use camera pop-up flash to trigger the ext flash to fired up (wireless FTW!~) [as many as u want]
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post Mar 6 2009, 07:02 AM

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Can you guys show the different between with and without flash. I seriously dont see any real different in shooting macro and outdoor. tongue.gif.

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