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post Feb 12 2009, 08:39 PM

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i need help from LYN members...

i have deal with a member(Trill_Scull) who is from LYN and he bought a PsP from me during 10-2-2009 but i post the PsP via poslaju and send it 11-2-2009 so today(12-2-2009) the buyer have receive it and i just received a call from he and he told me that he had received everything including box and accessories but the console lost

SO HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ?FEEL SAD TO HEAR FROM MY CUSTOMER
Pls help me as soon as possible because my customer is waiting for my answer.thanks.

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post Feb 12 2009, 09:22 PM, updated 17y ago

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i need help from LYN members...

i have deal with a member(Trill_Scull) who is from LYN and he bought a PsP from me during 10-2-2009 but i post the PsP via poslaju and send it 11-2-2009 so today(12-2-2009) the buyer have receive it and i just received a call from he and he told me that he had received everything including box and accessories but the console lost

SO HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ?FEEL SAD TO HEAR FROM MY CUSTOMER
Pls help me as soon as possible because my customer is waiting for my answer.thanks.
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:23 PM

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you can file a complain about missing item inside the parcel and ask for compersation. just say lost everything inside the box. only left the box.
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:24 PM

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i think maximum RM 300 can take back
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Feb 12 2009, 09:23 PM)
you can file a complain about missing item inside the parcel and ask for compersation. just say lost everything inside the box. only left the box.
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but the accessories dint lost
so how?
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:25 PM

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saman pos malaysia
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(muhdhafiz @ Feb 12 2009, 09:25 PM)
saman pos malaysia
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how to saman pos malaysia ?
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:36 PM

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aiyo...this why i dun like using courier...u confirm ur customer didtn recev the console? or ur customer lying u?
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(bear bear @ Feb 12 2009, 08:39 PM)
i need help from LYN members...

i have deal with a member(Trill_Scull) who is from LYN and he bought a PsP from me during 10-2-2009 but i post the PsP via poslaju and send  it 11-2-2009 so today(12-2-2009) the buyer have receive it and i just received a call from he and he told me that he had received everything including box and accessories but the console lost

SO HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ?FEEL SAD TO HEAR FROM MY CUSTOMER
Pls help me as soon as possible because my customer is waiting for my answer.thanks.
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Ask him to take picture of the parcel whether there is sign of tore-off or not before receiving the item from postman?
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(k_eyezax @ Feb 12 2009, 09:36 PM)
aiyo...this why i dun like using courier...u confirm ur customer didtn recev the console? or ur customer lying u?
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i cant sure because 1st time lost but i trust my customer
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:51 PM

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dont simply trust ur customer.. if i wuz that thief, i will take all inc accs..
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:57 PM

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that's why i always stated clearly to my customer

u bear the risk if u wan i post the item ....
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:58 PM

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Don't trust the buyer bro. Are you sure that you pack everything neatly in a box . If the buyer received the package without the console then somebody is lying. Poslaju won't know what item that you are sending.
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(samngcheesan @ Feb 12 2009, 09:57 PM)
that's why i always stated clearly to my customer

u bear the risk if u wan i post the item ....
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yup...
before dealing i have told the buyer(buyer bear risk)
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if u say so then it's not ur fault anymore.
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(che an @ Feb 12 2009, 09:58 PM)
Don't trust the buyer bro. Are you sure that you pack everything neatly in a box . If the buyer received the package without the console then somebody is lying. Poslaju won't know what item that you are sending.
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yup...always packed nicely before sent out the console


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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Feb 12 2009, 09:39 PM)
Ask him to take picture of the parcel whether there is sign of tore-off or not before receiving the item from postman?
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yup,this is a must do forthis kind of case.
must ask him whether the parcel is in good shape or not.
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:04 PM

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so. ask your buyer first...
maybe with tricky question...

...becoz maybe he lie..maybe he not..
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Feb 12 2009, 10:01 PM)
if u say so then it's not ur fault anymore.
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ok...now i just want to asking advice from lyn member and give my customer an answer

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i think better ask clearly from the buyer....
sad...
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:24 PM

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wrong section.. anyway, i think tat buyer shd bear it..
Be4 receie item pls make sure tat item izit still in packing or open be4.. If open be4 then jus claim to pos office.. Don after open it then say missing someting...
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:24 PM

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dun use the stupid poslaju,
i use citylink or skynet only....

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post Feb 12 2009, 10:38 PM

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ya...
i agree with fantasyboy...
but, the best when sending item by post with using what ya?
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(bear bear @ Feb 12 2009, 09:42 PM)
i cant sure because 1st time lost but i trust my customer
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i think...u lupa nak masukkan console dalam box. pls honest bro... thumbup.gif
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post Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM

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When u post to him, the box got seal properly? U got tape the whole box with masking tape?
One more thing,pos laju dont allow electronic items to be posted...

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post Feb 12 2009, 11:11 PM

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there are 3 possibilities here:

1) TS aka seller 'forgot' to include the console into the packaging, or
2) buyer received everything nicely but make up a story that the console missing, or
3) poslaju people take the console

IMHO, here's what i think based on above possibilities:

1) if TS aka seller cheat, no point he created this thread and be worried. money with him already, so better keep quiet and enjoy the money tongue.gif
2) got many cases similar with this. buyer try to claim or want a refund. if seller follows, buyer will get a refund along with the console. good busines! thumbup.gif
3) i used poslaju for several years and shipped from small to big, cheap to expensive items. even shipped to sarawak. never had any problems with them


so, based on my humble opinions, u decide which is more relevant. TQ
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:19 PM

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waaa this is every LYN forumers' nightmare (buyer & seller).

we usually deal based on trust btw buyer, seller & courier service.

in cases like this, somewhere along the way there will always be a dishonest person and many many many cerita one...

well sometimes when i send stuff, i just pray short while that the item will get delivered to my customer without any problems. if really kena problem, i think i can only sit & curse my luck!

best choice is still C.O.D whenever possible.

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highly doubt that the console only lost. Side, its general knowledge that the buyer bears the risk of the item being lost. If the whole package lost, then different case de, but accessories all still got means either you or him not telling the truth..

*i'm not implying anything, just saying things the way i see it..
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(meow1803 @ Feb 13 2009, 12:19 AM)
waaa this is every LYN forumers' nightmare (buyer & seller).

we usually deal based on trust btw buyer, seller & courier service.

in cases like this, somewhere along the way there will always be a dishonest person and many many many cerita one...

well sometimes when i send stuff, i just pray short while that this time will get delivered to my customer without any problems. if really kena preoblem, i think i can only sit & curse my luck!

best choice is still C.O.D whenever possible.
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Yes, COD will always be the best, but sometimes it's kinda impossible to do COD as customer might stay far away from you.
That's why.
All depands on luck ^^
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:22 PM

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yup...me too... so far non of my item is empty... hope wont happen 2 me... i can sure u nowdays, pos laju staff wont open ur package... dats why u cannot state/write that u pos an exp item in "item section"... such as phone, gold stuff.. or, make precaution step, insured that item..
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:25 PM

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quite hard to ask for compensation,unless u've the PSP receipt ,and u must know,Poslaju always shows us a notice regarding our postage,they said,they wont held any responsible for any damages or loses .for the compnesation,they will pay u maximum 300 when the parcel exceeds certain weight,so it's very hard for u bro,but just give it a try,who knows that it was ur day.
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:27 PM

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this problem got no answer ...

either 1 party have to sacrifice ...

thats all
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:30 PM

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I think cant ask refund from poslaju, since they put big sign "alat elektrik TIDAK DIBENARKAN"
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post Feb 13 2009, 12:42 AM

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once u signed and accept the parcel.
POS MALAYSIA cannot be held responsible because you have signed and accept the parcel ...
this has been happening in m'sia for a long time
item missing from parcel etc ...

even if u try to claim insurance etc, they will state that parcel did not get lost and infact was "safely" delivered...therefore insurance doesn't apply ...



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post Feb 13 2009, 01:11 AM

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What did you put in poslaju item description? If PSP bound to attract attention unsure.gif
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post Feb 13 2009, 09:20 AM

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More importantly, did you pack your package properly TS?

Packing your parcel not only using brown paper and wrap it and thats it. There's many way to ensure a parcel is safely packed.

I say this is because, if you did pack properly, the posmen dunno whats inside and why do the posmen have to take his chances to open the package? icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 13, 2009, 9:21 am
QUOTE(svage98 @ Feb 13 2009, 01:11 AM)
What did you put in poslaju item description? If PSP bound to attract attention  unsure.gif
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Yes svage98 also right, the item description you dun write PSP there. Like i sell phones i also put Gifts as my description. They wont bother to ask you what gift inside. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Feb 13 2009, 09:20 AM)
More importantly, did you pack your package properly TS?

Packing your parcel not only using brown paper and wrap it and thats it. There's many way to ensure a parcel is safely packed.

I say this is because, if you did pack properly, the posmen dunno whats inside and why do the posmen have to take his chances to open the package? icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 13, 2009, 9:21 am

Yes svage98 also right, the item description you dun write PSP there. Like i sell phones i also put Gifts as my description. They wont bother to ask you what gift inside. notworthy.gif
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Eh got some pictar how to wrap item properly?


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Dude,
Ask the buyer to post the pic.That's the best thing to do.case like this happened few years back when a forummer shipped a Digicam but in the end it comes out to be the buyer that is trying to scam.Pls review your dispute carefully.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 13 2009, 10:09 AM)
Eh got some pictar how to wrap item properly?
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Well, this is how i usually pack my items,

wrap with a layer of newspaper 1st, then the browan paper, tape it, and lastly wrap with a layer of transparent foil.

Next thing to do is inform the buyer if the transparent foil is open then dun receive the parcel.

Thats how i normally do it.
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post Feb 13 2009, 10:32 AM

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just confim that poslaju only can claim for rm300 only...

so sad...

but wat 2 do..

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QUOTE(ncool15 @ Feb 13 2009, 10:15 AM)
Dude,
Ask the buyer to post the pic.That's the best thing to do.case like this happened few years back when a forummer shipped a Digicam but in the end it comes out to be the buyer that is trying to scam.Pls review your dispute carefully.
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Yeah its hard to proof which side is trying to scam..

QUOTE(StratOS @ Feb 13 2009, 10:28 AM)
Well, this is how i usually pack my items,

wrap with a layer of newspaper 1st, then the browan paper, tape it, and lastly wrap with a layer of transparent foil.

Next thing to do is inform the buyer if the transparent foil is open then dun receive the parcel.

Thats how i normally do it.
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Hmm that is quite alot of work, and costs for buying the materials..
transparent foil as those used for cooking one?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 13 2009, 11:58 AM)
Yeah its hard to proof which side is trying to scam..
Hmm that is quite alot of work, and costs for buying the materials..
transparent foil as those used for cooking one?
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wow very nice packing ler...but if for covering cooking 1 is kinda too thin....and easily broken.
I usually wrap with newspaper+brown paper+transparent tape.....sum1 say use brown tape izzit more secure?
For these kind of case is the fear of all seller...which end up dunno who is gonna responsible.
so TS have u ask the buyer?
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM)
When u post to him, the box got seal properly? U got tape the whole box with masking tape?
One more thing,pos laju dont allow electronic items to be posted...
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really?the cashier got ask me whats is inside and i just say electronic


Added on February 13, 2009, 8:48 pm
QUOTE(meow1803 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:19 PM)
waaa this is every LYN forumers' nightmare (buyer & seller).

we usually deal based on trust btw buyer, seller & courier service.

in cases like this, somewhere along the way there will always be a dishonest person and many many many cerita one...

well sometimes when i send stuff, i just pray short while that the item will get delivered to my customer without any problems. if really kena problem, i think i can only sit & curse my luck!

best choice is still C.O.D whenever possible.
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yup i agree with you C.O.D


Added on February 13, 2009, 8:50 pm
QUOTE(nandayryu @ Feb 12 2009, 11:25 PM)
quite hard to ask for compensation,unless u've the PSP receipt ,and u must know,Poslaju always shows us a notice regarding our postage,they said,they wont held any responsible for any damages or loses .for the compnesation,they will pay u maximum 300 when the parcel exceeds certain weight,so it's very hard for u bro,but just give it a try,who knows that it was ur day.
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you mean the postlaju receipt ?
yes it still with me


Added on February 13, 2009, 8:54 pm
QUOTE(razzac @ Feb 12 2009, 10:52 PM)
i think...u lupa nak masukkan console dalam box. pls honest bro... thumbup.gif
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bro the console its not with me lar...
i have send it out

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post Feb 13 2009, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Feb 13 2009, 11:49 AM)
wow very nice packing ler...but if for covering cooking 1 is kinda too thin....and easily broken.
I usually wrap with newspaper+brown paper+transparent tape.....sum1 say use brown tape izzit more secure?
For these kind of case is the fear of all seller...which end up dunno who is gonna responsible.
so TS have u ask the buyer?
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yup
just ask the buyer and waiting for reply


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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Feb 13 2009, 11:49 AM)
wow very nice packing ler...but if for covering cooking 1 is kinda too thin....and easily broken.
I usually wrap with newspaper+brown paper+transparent tape.....sum1 say use brown tape izzit more secure?
For these kind of case is the fear of all seller...which end up dunno who is gonna responsible.
so TS have u ask the buyer?
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yup
waiting answer from the buyer


Added on February 13, 2009, 9:08 pmand yesterday i accidentally open a thread in Mobile phones section but it has been moved to Trade Zone Resource Centre
so should i close this thread and use that only ?or open both ?sorry for accidentally open a thread.

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QUOTE(Trill_Scull @ Feb 13 2009, 10:32 AM)
just confim that poslaju only can claim for rm300 only...

so sad...

but wat 2 do..

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Possible To Claim Or Not Also A Quest doh.gif

Good Luck Bro

Oh Yeah.. Since You're The Receiver. When You Received, How The Conditon Of Parcel?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 13 2009, 10:58 AM)
Yeah its hard to proof which side is trying to scam..
Hmm that is quite alot of work, and costs for buying the materials..
transparent foil as those used for cooking one?
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Quite a lot of work but Newspaper, i collect it from my neighbours around me, FOC(just sweat a lot). Brown paper is you can mass order it, cheap as well.

The transparent foil is to cover food use 1, exactly. Like at KLIA the foil up your baggage like tat. icon_rolleyes.gif

@Terence573.. The transparent foil is thin, so have to inform your buyer or the receiver if the foil is removed means its been opened. Cause courier service cant remove anything from what you have packed it with. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Trill_Scull @ Feb 13 2009, 10:32 AM)
just confim that poslaju only can claim for rm300 only...

so sad...

but wat 2 do..

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That's why you need to buy insurance. However not all post office offer...only available at pos laju centre only. RM1.50 for insurance coverage of item costing RM1000 and below.

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yeah, this is the same case happen to me.

is it urs is posted to Melaka too?

coz last time, my case was almost the same as urs but much more worst than u. All the PSP box + accessories hav been replaced by a stone! A big stone! (Batu bata).

LUckily, the seller (I am the buyer) agree to refund half of my money. I do trust him coz when I call him, he pick up his phone and even giv me his full personal details (the details is need when I do the report to Police).

So we both lost half of our money. But it consider a lot to me coz I'm juz a student.

Than, from that day, any deals involve more than RM100, i'll use a COD method, rather then POSLAJU which can't be trusted anymore.
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QUOTE(ncool15 @ Feb 13 2009, 10:15 AM)
Dude,
Ask the buyer to post the pic.That's the best thing to do.case like this happened few years back when a forummer shipped a Digicam but in the end it comes out to be the buyer that is trying to scam.Pls review your dispute carefully.
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Feb 13 2009, 10:16 PM)

Quite a lot of work but Newspaper, i collect it from my neighbours around me, FOC(just sweat a lot). Brown paper is you can mass order it, cheap as well.

The transparent foil is to cover food use 1, exactly. Like at KLIA the foil up your baggage like tat. icon_rolleyes.gif

@Terence573.. The transparent foil is thin, so have to inform your buyer or the receiver if the foil is removed means its been opened. Cause courier service cant remove anything from what you have packed it with. icon_rolleyes.gif
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yes,the 1st thing actually is ask the seller to snapshot the parcel to you before opened but i am the buyer did =.=
what you can do is only 300 compensation from pos mys.
lesson learnt get is self collection for electronically items ..since it cant be ship. always encourage self collection..

stratos, transparent foil is not sealed, the pos officer can open and wrap back too, how to identify??


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Eh? Isnt there another thread on the same thing?
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[quote=rayanne,Feb 27 2009, 03:34 PM]
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yes,the 1st thing actually is ask the seller to snapshot the parcel to you before opened but i am the buyer did =.=
what you can do is only 300 compensation from pos mys.
lesson learnt get is self collection for electronically items ..since it cant be ship. always encourage self collection..

stratos, transparent foil is not sealed, the pos officer can open and wrap back too, how to identify??
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Ya, COD is the best way for expensive item.

Or you can try insurance RM1.50. You can claim quite a lot from it.

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