I would rather say many countries are depending more on the states than europe. Oil for example, is already a big hint.

Japan independent? er...no i don't think so. China will be likely to be more independent, from what i observed.

Yeah. HSBC is among the troubled banks during the financial crisis. I think your executive friend doesn't want to spoil the fun?

If you meant recovering at an increasing rate, i got to agree but if you meant recovering at a stagnant rate, i still believe there is hope. I would not be surprise. People are not as foolish as 20 years back. Greed sometimes is the answer that causes them to overspend.

Buying properties now is cheap but im afraid if im unable to rent it out or sell it out depending on how long this economic downturn will be, then i would think twice. If i have so many properties and they can't even produce at least a steady cash flow , it's going to be a liability at some point as you know every buyers must have sellers. That's the reason why, properties buyers are actually holding back to buy buildings because everyone is trying to save their arses by selling their shares to stock up their own reserves. Unless im rich enough to wait and sustain myself for 3 to 5 years or more and buy cheap valuable shares, then properties and stocks will be wise to buy even at the cheapest rate. Just wait for economic boom or upmarket trend, then i will be rich provided im able to sell or rent it out. But properties are not going to drop heavily especially when lands are limited.

Futures players are greedy. As long there are profits, there are greed. Invest wisely is another issue. How wise is WISE? Even the wisest investors made the same mistakes as other investors. It just that some of them are able to sustain the losses or they diversify their risk accordingly which is smart. Prices volatility is the main determinant whether your plan move accordingly depending on commodities or derivatives.

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Which is why i believe, its too early to predict what's going to be a year ahead especially when the holes aren't measured and the plans haven't affect the market. I gotta agree, we need a report card to see how things goes. Before that, assumptions and speculations aren't going to help much but averse thinking and attitude will likely to decrease confidence.

The bold one is correct. That's what happened in trading and dealing room. We can spot greed easily through phone calls.

Aye and Japan is sinking as well.

Apa tembak tembak. don't rie plis.......

Wait....maybe got people berak and chatting together than you recorded their call? Fulamak....canggih man.

I scared is more than half. could it be?

yes. Too early to say. Sekali dapat E-.....siap.

1)Bank got hurt 2)politician take in more money 3) Loss

Ada apa incentives?

If only kampung people boleh speaking speaking.....ngiek ngiek ngiek....

Fukken sad to me. I may not read news that often about health and hospitality but that's just sad.

I knew it! Got economist lau sai together and chat together and you eaves dropping. Not fair. My toilet only got spoil brat

I think at this stage now, i think people are actually holding back. Maybe, they all wait for report card too.

Na beh...they all do like that....we all try to save money, they all lavishly spend their money....manyak potong stim and furious.

Wahlao.....berapa gazillion ringgit yang diperlukan untuk mencapai wawasan tersebut?

For the bridge, you are very sure no need to bina sungai?

That will cost mother's nature wrath

Endak apa. Kita pasang astro di kampung dan in4ernet. [sarcasm]Sokong BN [/sarcasm]

korek korek korek.....kalau tak ada tempat bina jambatan dan sungai....kitak minta najib's help to C4 the place so jambatan and sungai boleh dibikin.

ROFL. Inilah kebangaan Mareshia...

Har? Who bully you? Cakap? Siapa namanya?

Ok...saya cari siapa tu dahulu

And gib the profit to bina sungai and build more c4

ok ok...saya yc with taigy dulu then i report back to dazzy...boreh tak?

Win +2

Ok ok......we meet where?

I think you dunno that i always eat at there

Ok ok...see you at zen.

Today i got the monday blues..

No no...if joo are horny, and joo know it, grab joor stick and go to the brothel...

Am i doin it right?

Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

O.O

How come suddenly your point of arguments is on Japan?



There are methods definitely. Whether it be options or futures. Futures either their hedge, arbitrage or speculate. I think you should understand that every investors measure their risk in a different way.

Of course when opportunities strike, one would either grab it or wouldn't. It's logical as everybody is trying to grab as many fruit baskets as possible thus diversifying their risks. It's common. I could buy blue chip shares, properties, trade futures, open a restaurant or shops and put some of my earnings in banks to earn interest which is obviously risk free. I think its understandable by most businessman practices.

It COULD be the right way, if you are certain with your cash flow of your investment and the ROI. If you understand the credit rating DDD or AAA, the DDD has a higher risk but theoretically high risk = high return. How true is that, that depends on the operation of the investment.

Its okay to take loan but its not okay to take loan and you're not certain whether you're unable or able to pay it back with interest. Besides, most people actually start opening business through loans and leasing. It's how you earn returns which matter the most.