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khelben
post Jul 26 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jul 23 2010, 03:41 PM)
6) Cobb's totem is unreliable.

One common objection to the view that the real world is also a dream is that Cobb uses the totem in the real world scenes and it falls over. But Cobb's totem is unreliable. First of all, it wasn't his totem in the first place. It was his wife's totem and he'd already explained how important it was that every dreamer should make his own totem or else it wouldn't work. Secondly, he even explained to other people how it would work, defeating its purpose. Remember how Arthur would not allow Ariadne to touch his die because that would defeat its purpose? Arthur even tells Ariadne that Cobbs always tells people not to do something but then he always does it himself. To me, this indicates that Cobb's totem and his methods for staying safe while in dreams is not reliable.

I don't mean to say that the real world shown is definitively a dream. What I believe is that Nolan deliberately injected clues to make every single level in the film ambiguous and give every single level a dream-like quality. The purpose is to make it so that every and all interpretations are equally true. I guess some people might think that's clever, but I think it's pretty cheap and makes this a much weaker film compared to tightly plotted films like The Prestige and Memento in which there are multiple clues dispersed across a variety of narratives but everything joins back up together to form a single conclusion.
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I agree. I've been thinking that something's not right when he kept using his wife's totem.

But how about this? Dom's totem is actually his kids smile.gif

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post Jul 28 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jul 28 2010, 09:03 PM)
The whole movie cannot be a dream. We've seen several times how Cobb spins the top and it topples (in reality).
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Cobb did say that a totem can only be unique to its owner right? The gasing is his wife's as far as I can remember. So it could be that the top isn't reliable at some parts.
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post Jul 28 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jul 28 2010, 11:38 PM)
Arthur's totem is not even unique because its a regular dice, yet it can be consider unique if he looked at it in a certain way.

So maybe Cobb see the top as a unique item because it belonged to his wife, and perhaps the wife see her totem in a different manner than Cobb (maybe she loved top!).
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I thought Arthur's dice is a bit special? Like its supposed to have some sort of weight in it. Only he knows the dice's behavior, or something.
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post Jul 28 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Jul 28 2010, 11:41 PM)
Naomi Watts before she became a big star. brows.gif


Added on July 28, 2010, 11:49 pm

Also, the girl (Ellen Paige) didn't even have a totem of her own.

If the entire movie was a dream, she would have had a totem from the beginning, yes?
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She has a totem mate. She was forging it in a scene smile.gif

I'm not saying that the whole movie is a dream. Just saying that Dom's might not always be reliable.

EDIT: I mean, the gasing that Dom uses might not always be reliable as a totem for himself.

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post Jul 29 2010, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jul 29 2010, 07:39 PM)
P.S: some of u guys went as far as analysing names and going into mythology. i think that's not the right track to go. let's just look at what nolan presented us with in the film and stick with the facts provided ok?
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Haha yeah some really went to the extreme, but that's what made this movie so much fun in my opinion tongue.gif So much to talk about.
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post Jul 30 2010, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 30 2010, 10:32 AM)
Actually the irregularities is not intended. But due to this, people think Nolan purposely put it there.
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