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post Jul 29 2010, 02:23 PM

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I think whole movie is NOT a dream.

But I think last part might be dream. Because some people point out:

1. the daughter is not grown up also. Same size.
2. Totem not fall down YET but not conclusive.

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post Jul 29 2010, 02:49 PM

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So does everyone agreed that SE Satio and Cobb still in limbo while others managed to escape?
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post Jul 29 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 29 2010, 03:12 PM)
Ladies and gentlemen, we may have discovered our first loophole. tongue.gif

The time between Mals death and Cobb going back to the kids, is nowhere near explained. It could be within a short duration.

I think I should read Cobol job once more to get myself clarified.
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But the problem isn't age only. The problem is, it is the same scene, same shirt, etc....

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 29 2010, 03:04 PM)
no, actually some think they also escape and also some think that the entire movie is Cobb's dream
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They also escape ---> 50%
Entire movie is Cobb's dream ---> 0% This is taking things too far. Its unacceptable. Nolan will end up as shitty director if this is true.

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jul 29 2010, 03:56 PM)
actually we as a viewer is dreaming while watching the movie. The director is the architect. We are the dreamer while cobb with his subconsious projection.
This is the very first level of the dream. Going deeper deeper until the limbo level. We got a kick when the cinema lights turn on and it's back to reality again.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 29 2010, 04:09 PM)
I actually like one of the theories that the whole movie is actually a process of making a movie within a movie. So, guess who the cast is. tongue.gif
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Both of you. I don't think that's true. I don't believe Nolan tries to do that. sweat.gif
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 29 2010, 04:46 PM)
I think its not that Nolan is trying. I think he's just letting us have fun. biggrin.gif
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He don't think we're THAT intelligent. At least, Michael Bay don't think us like that... sweat.gif
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post Jul 30 2010, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Jul 29 2010, 09:01 PM)
then u r wasting the effort of nolan tryin to present to us
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I don't think Nolan trying to portray that kind of stuff. We're wasting our effort going into that direction. Talking about names is not about story line already.
You making assumption already. That is so wrooong....
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post Jul 30 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 09:42 AM)
Finally watched it last night

Seems pretty straight forward to me though - not that hard to dissect a movie but surprise with all the discussion here and all but to me, after watching the film seems easy.

I did get a little confuse on whose dream was it they enter the levels though... and the ending...

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The audience were welcoming this film in good hands... and still a lot of people watching this film.  rclxms.gif
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Yeah, its pretty straight forward. After so many brainless movie, people are just too excited to make up
this movie as mind numbing. But actually it is not. It SHOULD be straightforward.
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post Jul 30 2010, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jul 30 2010, 10:15 AM)
it is straightforward, and there isn't anything like rocket science in the movie, but there sure are alot of irregularities, like in a dream lol.
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Actually the irregularities is not intended. But due to this, people think Nolan purposely put it there.
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post Jul 30 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 30 2010, 10:35 AM)
Well, that's just like your opinion man. laugh.gif
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Really one ler. I think Inception got a lot of loopholes untied. I think Nolan is not fool proof.

QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 10:36 AM)
But I do have one thing I never get - Saito.

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My gf was a little confuse there and so was I. Other than that... good movie  laugh.gif

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Hahaha... to know Fischer...

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But I can never get Saito...  rclxub.gif
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Another thing is, Mal died and goes to limbo. Does that means, Mal died in level 2 and below... so this
means that the whole movie start from Level 2 dream? OMG...

NO la. Its just that Nolan confuse himself. He wrote it and unable to tie those end.
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 11:23 AM)
Well, here's what I gather about Mal... and I felt this is truly what was interpreted in the film...

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But the limbo part... that still eludes me because if Saito...

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I agreed with you. Mal is creation of Cobb. No doubt about it. Limbo is for someone alive that is dead in their deep level dreaming.

For Saito, Cobb already said that only him and Mal went to Limbo. No one in history of mankind ever went there.
So, they build the whole landscape. I guess Cobb know his way around Limbo. So finding him is as easy as 123.

Here got a lot of answer to our question:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/faq
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post Jul 30 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 11:54 AM)
Wow... that is such an easy explanation  laugh.gif

True, he did mention that Cobb and Mal did went into Limbo... shows one thing - Limbo does not feel like Limbo at all  laugh.gif
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That's what Cobb said in the movie. It was explained in the movie la... Limbo is like that. Don't change the Limbo
world ok... tongue.gif
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post Jul 30 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 02:34 PM)
Eh, Limbo is pretty much self explain leh... they change like that, salah liao...

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In any case, the movie itself can be bend on many explanations.
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movie that can be bend on many explanation is so wrong... Nolan phailed liao... means no conclusive
result liao... i hate Nolan movie...
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post Jul 30 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 30 2010, 03:28 PM)
then you should really hate kurbick's 2001 : a space odyssey

why does movie need conclusive result anyway, does every movie need the cast to explain everything is detail?
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I dun remember space odyssey liao....pardon me sad.gif

QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 03:30 PM)
laugh.gif

That movie ending felt like an LSD trip  tongue.gif

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The ending is up to the audience mah...

Besides, many films bend explanation in many ways but they will try to make it logical. I mean, how zombies come about and how George Romero explain it was so surreal but then quite impossible until some accept the impossible. Same thing like Matrix - humans as batteries? I always wonder - what do the machines feed the humans to generate so much energy inside them? Do we care about those? No... we learn to accept that logic and move on the the nifty stuff - action and awesome special effects.

Now Inception is is pretty much bend but then, it is pretty much well explain too. Its a good movie, not as good as The Dark Knight or Memento but for me, as good as The Prestige...
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Great film like Matrix have conclusive result mah. Normally great film have conclusive result la. If dun have conclusive result,
means that the writer/director scared to conclude it because the conclusion might be not that good. So he need our help
to conclude it.
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post Jul 30 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 04:02 PM)
But the Matrix ending does not seem conclusive ending even... there is a part of what Neo was before and what the future Neo would be then... for me - it felt like they come in full circle. And seriously, that ending (for me) felt cheap... and probably because ran out of idea. The first film was good... the second and third just seems meh to me... but I understand what Wachowski wanted but just how they did it felt cheap.
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at least, there's a conclusive idea what is real and what is not for matrix...

For inception, some people can't even agree which part is real and which part is not... sweat.gif that to me, is a bit
let down...

For me, Matrix 1, 2, 3 is awesome....
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QUOTE(Krovaxq @ Jul 30 2010, 04:23 PM)
well, to me..thats the beauty of it haha...

if nolan made us audiences, talkin and discussing over this, it means...he did not only made an inception within the movie... its the entire people who watched it... total domination to me haha  thumbup.gif
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No la. I still don't think he successfully pull it off. I read the Wikipedia. The script have change several times.
It was intended to be horror movie. LOL... so I don't believe Nolan is making this into thinking movie...
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 30 2010, 04:43 PM)
Like I said earlier, we as the consumer never had a chance to conclude a movie. Inception was that chance after a long time.

I should really watch Blade Runner asap and figure out what the hell went wrong there. laugh.gif
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I watch Blade Runner before. It has a conclusion. And it is satisfiable.

Also, Inception have conclusion. But you all screw it up!!! vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 30 2010, 05:18 PM)
But the film is pretty much straight forward. Easy to identify whether which is real or not. Of course, the ending does leave it to interpretation...

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yes, it is straight forward... until some genius turn this into critical discussion... mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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post Jul 30 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 30 2010, 05:34 PM)
I took the third ending.

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lol... I accepted your ending...
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post Jul 31 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(silbii @ Jul 31 2010, 12:16 AM)
i dont really like the dark knight...it's just too overrated tongue.gif
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yalor.... I see its just normal nice movie...
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(baoz @ Aug 1 2010, 11:50 PM)
Sorry for the late-ness. Just watched the movie.

Although the ending gave me (and the rest of the audience) a big "HUH??".. the entire movie was brilliant. Atypical action scenes aside (I was waiting for Yusof to get shot), the whole concept is just very.. new and original. And credit has to be given to Nolan for executing it almost flawlessly.

The cast were just great too. Love Tom Hardy for his accent and humour the most.

I need to find another 2.5 hours of my time to watch once more. Gonna pay attention to the details this time. Throughout the movie I keep having these unanswered questions that I can't focus on the next puzzle.
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great yes. Original? probably. Some part is taken directly from Matrix. Example is plug-in to go to dream world instead
of Matrix world.
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post Aug 2 2010, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Aug 2 2010, 12:07 AM)
Erm... Doubt it is some part actually. They are both quite different in terms of theme concept. I believe Inception likely good in comparison would be Satoshi Kon's Paprika... that anime film is almost similar to Inception (without the extraction and inception)
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You should read the FAQ and Wiki regarding this movie. When Nolan wrote this movie, it is very heavily influenced by
Matrix.
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