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post Jul 23 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jul 23 2010, 10:46 AM)
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 10:17 AM)
i believe that was the inspiration of the character in the movie she was the one that are helping Cobb to come out of the dream world.


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there is no gravity at the time so when arthur move them they did not feel anything at the third level.


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Arthur simulated free fall with the lift, at that moment why didn't anything happen to the team in Level 3. Is 'simulated' still = not having gravity?

Lol... funny pics.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 10:17 AM)
i believe that was the inspiration of the character in the movie she was the one that are helping Cobb to come out of the dream world.


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there is no gravity at the time so when arthur move them they did not feel anything at the third level.


Added on July 23, 2010, 10:29 ammore funny pic of inception  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 10:57 AM)
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OO i know him from spiderman, very good movie and best thumbup.gif
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Apart from visual effects and (mind-boggling) plot, the sounds and music of "Inception" really stood out.




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post Jul 23 2010, 11:45 AM

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post Jul 23 2010, 11:46 AM

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LOL @ Ken Watanabe

he's such a badass biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jul 23 2010, 11:09 AM)
Arthur simulated free fall with the lift, at that moment why didn't anything happen to the team in Level 3. Is 'simulated' still = not having gravity?

Lol... funny pics.
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erh, Arthur blow the explosive and lift drop down and simulate drop as kick right after Eames blow up the fortress.


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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jul 23 2010, 11:09 AM)
Arthur simulated free fall with the lift, at that moment why didn't anything happen to the team in Level 3. Is 'simulated' still = not having gravity?

Lol... funny pics.
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I took it as the body in level 2 wasnt experiencing direct zero gravity in level 2 but the results of the extreme sensation of the body being suddenly weightless in level 1. Whatever happens at a particular level, the effect of it is reduced exponentially at the next level. Its the same logic that why a kick can only wake up a person directly one level below it. Why the pain from Saito's wound is reduced at the next lower levels. When Arthur sets off the bomb, Im pretty sure he setup the charges at the underside of the lift - meaning the lift was going upwards, causing the sleeping body to straight away slam down towards the bottom floor of the lift. By this logic, the body wasnt experiencing a free fall since they 'felt' their body against the hard floor of the lift.
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the number of time each character died in the movie


http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...each_chara.html
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Those of you who haven’t seen the movie: That headline is not actually a spoiler — though the rest of this article is.

In the dream worlds of Inception, death is the quickest way to wake yourself from dreaming. Unless, of course, you’re so heavily sedated that your “death” just sends you into the unconstructed dream space of Limbo, where your (real) mind will become mush. But wait: You can free yourself from Limbo if you remember that you’re dreaming and — yes — kill yourself. Needless to say, this means that the many dream-within-a-dream levels of Christopher Nolan’s film practically require our heroes to die multiple deaths — an admirable gambit, we think, for a summer blockbuster. (And don't forget Mal, and the subconscious projection of Mal, who together suffer multiple iterations of "death.") We did the grim business of tallying up the carnage, and here’s what we came up with.

Mal (Marion Cotillard)
1. A train runs over her head in a flashback that reveals how she and Cobb got out of Limbo back in the day.
2. Jumps to her death in reality, in Cobb’s flashback to their tragically derailed hotel-room rendezvous.
3. We see her jump to her death from the hotel room again in one of Cobb’s dreams. (This could be considered a flashback, but we actually think it’s part of a dream, so we’re counting it as a death.)
4. Shot by Cobb in the ice-station hospital in Dream Level 3, after she shoots Fischer.
5. Shot by Ariadne, who is “improvising” in the hotel room in Limbo.
6. In this same hotel room, she actually then comes back to "life" again, after Ariadne bails. At which point Cobb reveals to her that the two of them did grow old together in their period in Limbo. At which point, she just quietly expires — presumably for good.

Saito (Ken Watanabe)
1. Crushed by a collapsing ceiling in the opening fortress dream, after Arthur’s “death” brings the whole place crashing down.
2. Shot by Fischer’s dream goons on Dream Level 1, then dies slowly across the two deeper levels. He finally expires after blowing up a bunch of dream baddies with a dream grenade in the ice-station hospital in Dream Level 3.
3. We see his old, withered hand reaching for a gun in Limbo, after Cobb comes and tells him that they’re dreaming. It is implied that he kills himself and brings himself back up.

Fischer (Cillian Murphy)
1. Shot by Mal in the ice-station hospital on Dream Level 3. (Although they manage to bring him back with a defibrillator, it is implied that he did in fact die on this level and went to Limbo. Once he comes back from Limbo, though, he’s able to live again and enter his father’s hospital deathbed vault.)
2. Thrown off a balcony by Ariadne in the Limbo hotel room, after she shoots Mal.

Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio)
1. We see a flashback of him putting his head on the train tracks with Mal, to get out of Limbo.
2. [?] When Saito reaches for the gun as an old man in Limbo, he presumably also shoots Cobb to get him out of Limbo. Or does he???

Ariadne (Ellen Page)
1. Stabbed by Mal during her initial Paris dream with Cobb.
2. [?] She throws herself off the balcony of the Limbo hotel room — though she could just be synchronizing with the “kick” in Dream Level 1.

Arthur (Joseph Gordon-Levitt)
1. Shot by Cobb (after being wounded by Mal) in the opening fortress dream.

Yusuf (Dileep Rao) and Eames (Tom Hardy)
Thanks, presumably, to Yusuf’s brilliant driving and Eames’s dry British wit, neither of them appears to die in any of the dream levels, or in reality


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not sure why, but i still 'feel' more for Dark City (film was released 1998) than Inception ... maybe coz the alternate universe is darker there, and i love goth-esque stuff more... i think even The Matrix was so much influence by Dark City

and Leo's Titanic-ish jumping balcony scene turned me off so much...lol

but great discussion about Inception here...at least it's no "Transformers 2' - lol

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QUOTE(silbii @ Jul 23 2010, 12:06 PM)
not sure why, but i still 'feel' more for Dark City (film was released 1998) than Inception ... maybe coz the alternate universe is darker there, and i love goth-esque stuff more... i think even The Matrix was so much influence by Dark City

and Leo's Titanic-ish jumping balcony scene turned me off so much...lol

but great discussion about Inception here...at least it's no "Transformers 2' - lol

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But Dark City has strangers... and they are aliens. Maybe its the landscape of the city? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(silbii @ Jul 23 2010, 12:06 PM)
not sure why, but i still 'feel' more for Dark City (film was released 1998) than Inception ... maybe coz the alternate universe is darker there, and i love goth-esque stuff more... i think even The Matrix was so much influence by Dark City

and Leo's Titanic-ish jumping balcony scene turned me off so much...lol

but great discussion about Inception here...at least it's no "Transformers 2' - lol

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Dark city should have the budget of the matrix, that would be awesome
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 12:09 PM)
Dark city should have the budget of the matrix, that would be awesome
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But then Alex Proya was pretty unknown director. Not to mention the actors that were hired for the film then were unknown. Unless Alex Proya pinch it like Peter Jackson, New Line Cinema could have given a nice budget to make a Dark City Trilogy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 12:09 PM)
Dark city should have the budget of the matrix, that would be awesome
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u made me remember about dark city...
such a superb movie....
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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 23 2010, 12:14 PM)
But then Alex Proya was pretty unknown director. Not to mention the actors that were hired for the film then were unknown. Unless Alex Proya pinch it like Peter Jackson, New Line Cinema could have given a nice budget to make a Dark City Trilogy.  laugh.gif
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peter jacksan is making the most well known fantasy story, with a huge built in fan base.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 12:19 PM)
peter jacksan is making the most well known fantasy story, with a huge built in fan base.
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True, but with the right pinching - Alex Proya could have gotten a bigger budget.

One news I read how Rod Sterling manage to get his Twilight Zone show pinch was how he manage to convince CBS to give them a try on one episode and it work. His show lasted 5 seasons. It was something never done before and he did it by even making a video to get the budget he wanted.

What was Twilight Zone in the late 1950s till early 1960s became a phenomenon...
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 11:49 AM)
erh, Arthur blow the explosive and lift drop down and simulate drop as kick right after Eames blow up the fortress.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 23 2010, 11:49 AM)
I took it as the body in level 2 wasnt experiencing direct zero gravity in level 2 but the results of the extreme sensation of the body being suddenly weightless in level 1. Whatever happens at a particular level, the effect of it is reduced exponentially at the next level. Its the same logic that why a kick can only wake up a person directly one level below it. Why the pain from Saito's wound is reduced at the next lower levels. When Arthur sets off the bomb, Im pretty sure he setup the charges at the underside of the lift - meaning the lift was going upwards, causing the sleeping body to straight away slam down towards the bottom floor of the lift. By this logic, the body wasnt experiencing a free fall since they 'felt' their body against the hard floor of the lift.
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I see, alright. Yeah.. the effects seem to be reduce as they go deeper.

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Fischer (Cillian Murphy)
1. Shot by Mal in the ice-station hospital on Dream Level 3. (Although they manage to bring him back with a defibrillator, it is implied that he did in fact die on this level and went to Limbo. Once he comes back from Limbo, though, he’s able to live again and enter his father’s hospital deathbed vault.)
2. Thrown off a balcony by Ariadne in the Limbo hotel room, after she shoots Mal.


Fischer 'dies'. Then in his 'death' in limbo, he is killed again. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 22 2010, 10:35 PM)
No what im saying is that in order to get back one level you need to initiate 2 kicks; one in prior level and another in current level. Think of it as a push and pull effect. During the heist mission, the team needed both the pull and push kicks to traverse between the levels. A normal kick from top level is not enough to bring you back. The van plunging was an incomplete kick because Arthur didnt set off the bomb. The van plunging has a pull effect, but the initial sequence didnt sync with a push kick in level 2 because Arthur wasnt ready to initiate the kick. If the team didnt venture into level 3, they still would have to blow up the floor to coincide with the van plunging.
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Damn I wasn't aware of this at all! Was this explained somewhere in the movie? Can't believe I missed it. But moving on, when you die in a dream, you dont need a "pull" from the level above to wake you up? How come when Cobb was dunk in the tub of water early on, he didn't need any "push" from the level below to wake up? Or are we to simply assume upon seeing the gushing water he just killed himself?

QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 23 2010, 11:49 AM)
I took it as the body in level 2 wasnt experiencing direct zero gravity in level 2 but the results of the extreme sensation of the body being suddenly weightless in level 1. Whatever happens at a particular level, the effect of it is reduced exponentially at the next level. Its the same logic that why a kick can only wake up a person directly one level below it. Why the pain from Saito's wound is reduced at the next lower levels. When Arthur sets off the bomb, Im pretty sure he setup the charges at the underside of the lift - meaning the lift was going upwards, causing the sleeping body to straight away slam down towards the bottom floor of the lift. By this logic, the body wasnt experiencing a free fall since they 'felt' their body against the hard floor of the lift.
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But as all saw, there was absolutely NO gravity in level 2 whatsoever. That's as direct as level 2 being directly affected by the free-fall in level 1! Surely they must have felt something in level 3. I dunno, sometimes I feel some of the rules in the film were thought up to simply service the plot.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 23 2010, 12:09 PM)
Dark city should have the budget of the matrix, that would be awesome
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Heh that's what I thought as well when watching Dark City.
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Saito (Ken Watanabe)
1. Crushed by a collapsing ceiling in the opening fortress dream, after Arthur’s “death” brings the whole place crashing down.
2. Shot by Fischer’s dream goons on Dream Level 1, then dies slowly across the two deeper levels. He finally expires after blowing up a bunch of dream baddies with a dream grenade in the ice-station hospital in Dream Level 3.
3. We see his old, withered hand reaching for a gun in Limbo, after Cobb comes and tells him that they’re dreaming. It is implied that he kills himself and brings himself back up.

this i wanna know if u people can explain..when saito got the gun, who he shot actually? himself, to bring him back, or Cobb...but I assume, Saito was dead in dream lvl 2..so if he shot himself in dream 3, he would still be dead right?

if he shot Cobb also...can Cobb wake up in previous layer/or previous previous? coz the ending was, Cobb was dreaming..is that a limbo?

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