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post Jul 19 2010, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Jul 19 2010, 06:38 PM)
One funny question.
Yusuf caused the 1st lvl dreamscape to rain because he had the urge to pee.

What happens if he had the urge to take a dump?
Snow probably? Thunderstorm? I read somewhere physiologically, you won't take a dump when sleeping. Something about how naturally, your bowel movement will surpress....peeing maybe.
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jul 19 2010, 06:47 PM)
Snow probably? Thunderstorm? I read somewhere physiologically, you won't take a dump when sleeping. Something about how naturally, your bowel movement will surpress....peeing maybe.
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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Jul 19 2010, 06:38 PM)
One funny question.
Yusuf caused the 1st lvl dreamscape to rain because he had the urge to pee.

What happens if he had the urge to take a dump?
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When I want to pee in dream ... I will dream about water or toilet something.

When I have the urge to take a dump ... I think I will dream I got stomachache in the dream .... will dream in a hospital and panic-ally looking for doctor ...
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post Jul 19 2010, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mindcry @ Jul 19 2010, 07:00 PM)
you can if your on drugs, trainspotting/when on heroine remember?
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Eh i thought the heroine was making him constipated. It was only after the effect faded that all hell broke loose!
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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Jul 19 2010, 06:10 PM)
If Cobbs can't get into States, why didn't he smuggles their children out of states ????

Makes me wonder if it is an inception being carried out.
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aiya movie only ... no need so serious. probably their grandparent dun allow them to do tat ... if out of US illegally ... where they can get a citizenship? North Korea?

Actually the most illogical part is why Saito have to nearly sacrifice his life just to defeat Fischer empire ... come to think of it ... I think it's not worth at all ... you end up in a Limbo just to make your opponent choose to be independence ... what a stupid reason.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 05:53 PM)
Ariadne was the architect for all 3 levels. If the dreamer were the architect, why did Cobb employ her to be the architect? She wasn't a dreamer in any of the levels.
Cobb employed her only to design the levels, then teach them to the dreamers. You saw this very quickly in the planning-the-heist montage, in which she briefed Yusuf, Arthur and Eames on their respective levels.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 05:53 PM)
Tell me you don't seriously believe that!
Why not? "Contrived" is when things happen for no reason, or for a very artificial reason i.e. to make the movie longer. Cobb told Ariadne never to tell him about the layout, because then Mal would be able to find her way through. That's exactly what happened.


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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 19 2010, 07:14 PM)
Actually the most illogical part is why Saito have to nearly sacrifice his life just to defeat Fischer empire ... come to think of it ... I think it's not worth at all ... you end up in a Limbo just to make your opponent choose to be independence ... what a stupid reason.
He didn't know the job would get so dangerous maa. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 07:20 PM)

He didn't know the job would get so dangerous maa.  biggrin.gif
So the moral of the story is dun mess with ppl's dream ... else you will be sorry.
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It was Arthur's fault for not briefing them about the heightened security.

It is also MAINLY Cobb and Yusuf's fault for not telling them that they will go to "Cuckoo limboland" if they die in the dream with powerful sedative concoctions.

Well honestly, i think Eames is the most reliable team member compared to everyone else.

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i think it all end the best for Fischer, he was able to get over his daddy issue and live his life as he like for now on.
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 07:20 PM)


Added on July 19, 2010, 7:21 pm

He didn't know the job would get so dangerous maa.  biggrin.gif
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and its the only way for him to know if the inception is carried out...
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i like Arthur, his acting was spot on portraying the cool know it all character, eames was similar but wif humor
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post Jul 19 2010, 08:03 PM

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cobb also was able to get out of a life where he is a fugitive and consumed by guilt and regret to a world where he can be with his children and getting over what happen with his wife, that is the third inception, he planted the idea on his own mind that he could be happy, previously his dream are all the stuff that he regreted only in the end he is happy.


i was thinking how awesome it would have be if at the end of the movie the scene change to the mental hospital where Laeddis was strap to the operating table,Chuck told Dr. Cawley that Laeddis condition are getting worst and he have a new crazy fantasy about him doing some heist in dream. then they lobotomize him, the credit roll with the title "shutter island 2 : inception" rolleyes.gif
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lol sometimes i read about how u guys comment, is like you guys want the director to show every single thing, including shitting, eating, cobb scratching his d***, maybe also how he met his wife mal, how the have sex, how mal gave birth to the childrens, how they get married, what they do before they start dreaming, the time when cobb buys his underwear..................................... and the list goes on. how much details u guys want hahahahah laugh.gif
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no offense can the mod or some1 jz give 'ate' a warning or something...
he seems to be really trolling hard...

oh ya about wut in the safe, i think it was placed there by fisher himself...
if i'm nt mistaken, the 3rd layer itself is fisher's dream (his goddad was his own projection)...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jul 19 2010, 08:17 PM)
no offense can the mod or some1 jz give 'ate' a warning or something...
he seems to be really trolling hard...

oh ya about wut in the safe, i think it was placed there by fisher himself...
if i'm nt mistaken, the 3rd layer itself is fisher's dream (his goddad was his own projection)...
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fischer was the mark the whole time...its just the team trick him into believe that the snow mountain fortress vault they are about to break in was his uncle's (but its still his)
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 19 2010, 06:07 PM)
I've only seen the film once so correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the fort originally a hospital ? Adriande designed a hospital to keep Fischer's dad there - the original plan was to simply usher Fischer into the hospital and let him freely chat with his father. But since Fischer was military trained to combat infiltration, the projections became more aggresive at each subsequent levels. So the hospital turned into a fort. They expected this (only after they found that Fischer was militarily trained) hence why they couldnt just appear inside it, that would had been a suicide. This prompted a more cautious approach, which is why needed to draw out the guards.
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Yeah, Ariadne did make mention of a hospital. But is it just me or were the trained projection in level 2 tamer than those in level 1? In level 1 there converged upon the team in no time and were ruthless, never hesitating to use lethal force when the chance arose, even in broad daylight. In contrast, those in level 2 were happy to sit nearly while Cobb influenced their client.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 19 2010, 06:26 PM)
Nash was indeed the dreamer for the level at the beginning (young Saito level) and he too was an architect.
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What are you saying? I'm not saying the architect couldn't also be a dreamer. Nash (probably) designed both levels of the dream, and he was the dreamer for the first and Arthur for the second.

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Jul 19 2010, 06:38 PM)
One funny question.
Yusuf caused the 1st lvl dreamscape to rain because he had the urge to pee.


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lol who said that? It never crossed my mind that the rain was due to his bladder. I just thought the team were laughing at him because they had to wait for him to take a pee in the dream. But your... theory is funny.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 07:20 PM)
Cobb employed her only to design the levels, then teach them to the dreamers. You saw this very quickly in the planning-the-heist montage, in which she briefed Yusuf, Arthur and Eames on their respective levels.
Why not? "Contrived" is when things happen for no reason, or for a very artificial reason i.e. to make the movie longer. Cobb told Ariadne never to tell him about the layout, because then Mal would be able to find her way through. That's exactly what happened.

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Isn't the architect the one who... designs the levels? Cobb specifically said he was going to look for a new architect before he visited Michael Caine. But yes, Ariadne designed all the levels and taught them to the dreamers.

That scene was the definition of contrived! Look at the dialogue, it should have been something like this:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut."
"OK cool tell Saito that!"

... But instead it was:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut. There's some underground tunnel leading straight into the fortress!"
"OK cool tell Saito that! P/S nice of you to tell me where the shortcut is!"

Come on don't deny the real reason there was a "shortcut" was because Nolan wanted Mal to be in there to kill Fischer.

Btw, it just occurred to me that maybe... just maybe, the supposed 'trained projections' were actually Cobb's own projections?

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 08:28 PM)
Yeah, Ariadne did make mention of a hospital. But is it just me or were the trained projection in level 2 tamer than those in level 1? In level 1 there converged upon the team in no time and were ruthless, never hesitating to use lethal force when the chance arose, even in broad daylight. In contrast, those in level 2 were happy to sit nearly while Cobb influenced their client.
What are you saying? I'm not saying the architect couldn't also be a dreamer. Nash (probably) designed both levels of the dream, and he was the dreamer for the first and Arthur for the second.
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i think the projections will react according to Fischer's thinking, if Cobb gained his trust, then the subconscious will not act (they did showed suspicion on several occasion where Fischer was in doubt over Cobb's speech)

correct me if i am wrong tongue.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 08:28 PM)
lol who said that? It never crossed my mind that the rain was due to his bladder. I just thought the team were laughing at him because they had to wait for him to take a pee in the dream. But your... theory is funny.
I thought it was quite clear. Level 1 was raining because Yusuf forgot to pee before they entered the dream. You missed that? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 19 2010, 08:28 PM)
That scene was the definition of contrived! Look at the dialogue, it should have been something like this:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut."
"OK cool tell Saito that!"

... But instead it was:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut. There's some underground tunnel leading straight into the fortress!"
"OK cool tell Saito that! P/S nice of you to tell me where the shortcut is!"

Come on don't deny the real reason there was a "shortcut" was because Nolan wanted Mal to be in there to kill Fischer.
Okay, if you put it that way. But Mal would've appeared anyway, because that's where the story needed to go. Nolan just wanted to cover that base.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 08:35 PM)
I thought it was quite clear. Level 1 was raining because Yusuf forgot to pee before they entered the dream. You missed that?  biggrin.gif
Okay, if you put it that way. But Mal would've appeared anyway, because that's where the story needed to go. Nolan just wanted to cover that base.
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yup...
when yusuf got into the car, they did said that to him...

btw could there be more inception actually?
like some1 incepted cobb to forgive himself i wonder...
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 19 2010, 08:35 PM)
I thought it was quite clear. Level 1 was raining because Yusuf forgot to pee before they entered the dream. You missed that?  biggrin.gif
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