Ariadne was the architect for all 3 levels. If the dreamer were the architect, why did Cobb employ her to be the architect? She wasn't a dreamer in any of the levels.

Tell me you don't seriously believe that!

Actually the most illogical part is why Saito have to nearly sacrifice his life just to defeat Fischer empire ... come to think of it ... I think it's not worth at all ... you end up in a Limbo just to make your opponent choose to be independence ... what a stupid reason.

lol who said that? It never crossed my mind that the rain was due to his bladder. I just thought the team were laughing at him because they had to wait for him to take a pee in the dream. But your... theory is funny.

That scene was the definition of contrived! Look at the dialogue, it should have been something like this:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut."
"OK cool tell Saito that!"

... But instead it was:

"Did Eames add anything extra?"
"No I cant tell you! You cant know the layout of the level!"
"Yes but we dont have time to argue now! Quick, did he or did he not add something?"
"OK yes he added a shortcut. There's some underground tunnel leading straight into the fortress!"
"OK cool tell Saito that! P/S nice of you to tell me where the shortcut is!"

Come on don't deny the real reason there was a "shortcut" was because Nolan wanted Mal to be in there to kill Fischer.

Most of us saw that both Cobb & Mal were old in their very very deep dream world but when they suicide, they were young. Some of us (too many pages to link to) came up with the opinion that whenever they die, they move a layer up (just like how Arthur when he was killed in the Saito's extraction mission layer 2 woke up in layer 1) so the railway suicide could be their first layer, just before reality.

The Totem
The totem is not a reliable object. Arthur specifically told Ariadne that it's something meant to prove that you're not in someone else's dream... which means that it's not gonna be useful if you're in your own dream.

Third Layer
I'm not really sure but whose dream is this supposed to be? Before they went into the third layer, I clearly heard that they're going into Fischer's dream but when they're in third layer, they point to it as Eames dream. Were they just trying to bluff Fischer since he was just beside them in the third layer?

cant wait for it to appear in dvd so i can watch more and try to understand this sophisticatedmovie,next month maybe?

I feel that this movie is still inferior to The Dark Knight.

It is too complicated for its own good. Making such a complicated movie with with its complex dream world physics and rules just opens up more plot holes and questions. In the end it leaves viewers puzzling over its queer dreamworld logic rather than its dramatic scenes or philosophy

Why the feel of inferior?

Fair enough. I like TDK better because it brings into focus deep seated personal conflicts, morality, deranged or misguided believes. The are more to the subject of humanities.

But for Inception, everyone is taking about what they think is happening and presenting their case with supporting interpretations of the dream world logic. Don't these all belong in a Star Trek convention ?

** Runs for cover ***

Dude the action scenes just plain sucked!

Well the action in Batman Begins sucked as well. He improved in TDK, though most people still say the action there sucked. I dunno, but I liked the prison transfer sequence in TDK. Certain parts of it lacked a visual grasp but for the most part it was tense and chaotic... in a good way, I felt. It had three of the film's coolest moments too- Batpod emerging from the Tumbler wreckage, the semi truck doing the flip, and the batpod doing a different flip off the wall. The other fight scenes in TDK dont fare as good in my books, although I found them more watchable in repeat viewings.

Inception’s Dileep Rao Answers All Your Questions About Inception : http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...ao_answers.html

Digging a little deeper into the story now, can you walk me through whose dream is whose?
Okay. So first there's reality. We get on the plane. We go to sleep. Then we're in my dream, Yusuf's dream. Because my pee urge causes it to rain. That's how I see it. The architecture is Ariadne's (Ellen Page's) design, but it's my dream. Then we drop down a level and go to the bar, to the hotel. I think we're in Arthur's (Joseph Gorden-Levitt's) dream at that point. Then — this is where it gets mind-bending — we drop down into Fischer's (Cillian Murphy's) dream, even though he thinks they're going to Browning's (Tom Berenger's) dream.

There seems to be a rule of thumb, then, that whoever "sticks around" in a level, that person had to be the dreamer, right? It's why you're stuck driving the van and Joseph Gordon-Levitt chills out in the hotel.
I think that's a great signifier and it makes the most sense, because how the hell would it continue on that level if the person who was dreaming took off?

But that made me think the third level, the snow fort, was Eames's (Tom Hardy's) dream.
Except in the hotel room, Ellen Page asks whose subconscious we're going into, and Cobb answers, "Fischer's."

You're right, it has to be Fischer's, because that's the level where they're planning to do the inception. That also means that in the hotel room, when Browning is talking to Fischer, we're actually watching —
— an internal debate going on in Fischer's mind. He's filling Joseph Gordon-Levitt's dream with his subconscious. And then one level down, in the snow of his own mind, he drops down to limbo when he dies, which means your rule of thumb isn't quite right. Because Mal shoots him, which means Cobb's own subconscious has taken Fischer to limbo.

What a smart arse director which make me and me alone in the entire world wont watch his work ever again

Funny how people always take fiction way too seriously, but of course, everyone has the right to ponder the meaning of a work.

yay rili? im gonna dl the fountain then

ive watched

inception
dark city
space odyssey
13th floor
insomnia
memento
the prestige
following
doodlebug <--- lol seriously.

i saw the movie and i dont understand the inception part~ whats the idea they planted? asking him to be himself? how does that make him destroy the empire ?

Moreover comparison made between Inception and The Matrix - personally i think Inception dont come even close. Its just a normal scifi thriller to me. While the Matrix left me flabbergasted while and after the movie for years.

2. Miles was Mal's dad, so he's Cobb's father in law, and the reason he's in LA because Cobb wants him to bring the toy to his children

I was thinking, why inception is so hard to do, they do explain it, but i cant really get what they really mean.

For me, is totally possible, like how i infiltrate your dream, and tell you tomorrow Sport Toto first grand prize is this number, and when you wake up, i am 100% sure you are going to go buy the number. Wasn't that call inception? I put an idea into you, you believe is true and do it in reality?

What so hard about inception? lol