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post Dec 1 2010, 05:18 PM

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its just a cup of coffee lol biggrin.gif
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No...

It can't be...

Its...

its...

A TOTEM???
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post Dec 2 2010, 11:42 AM

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So it wasnt genuine inspiration, someone incepted Inception into his mind ohmy.gif
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post Dec 2 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Dec 1 2010, 05:18 PM)
its just a cup of coffee lol biggrin.gif
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it is a special cup of coffee, only he know the exact amount of coffee in there, in the dream world it will never get cold.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 2 2010, 02:24 PM)
it is a special cup of coffee, only he know the exact amount of coffee in there, in the dream world it will never get cold.
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he lied to you about the characteristics, coz if you know, then his totem will be invalidated laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
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Watched mindf*ck Inception yesterday... didn't have the same kind of oomph as the absolutely brilliant "The Prestige".

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Nov 28 2010, 07:46 PM)
The thing about Inception is that it swamps the viewer with so much information that the first viewing can be a little confusing, you're constantly thinking about what the characters said 10 seconds ago. It's only with a second or third viewing that you realize the movie is actually... crap. Yes, I've just watched it again, and it has some nice ideas and concepts, but the execution is just painfully mundane and WRONG. The constant yakking is boooring.  Yak yak yak. Explain this explain that. All done verbally. Films are about images, especially one with so much potential as this. Nolan makes the mistake of TELLING instead of SHOWING. And when he does attempt to show, he's revealed as incompetent, as evidenced by the goddamn awful last 40 minutes of shit action. You only need to compare this with The Matrix, which explained its ideas with elegance and coolness. None of that here. You want to see images coexisting perfectly with dialogue? Watch a Tarantino movie.

The most pitiful thing is that it really had the potential to be an all-time great. But it's just a bad movie.
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Totally agree.

Too much messy hoohah, too much verbal explanation which should have been revealed by Nolan (via story telling and events) to the viewers, and not through characters talking to each other. Action scenes were all pretty standard stuff, characters were underutilised (Ariadne's architect role was useless once she's in dreamland), acting wise none of the characters really stood out. And to really make Cillian Murphy look bad you'd have to give him a crap role, which is what Nolan did. Watch him in Red Eye and compare the difference.

The lack of focus is also annoying. It's supposed to be a sci-fi thriller yet towards the end it actually digresses towards Cobb's redemption and liberation from his guilt. Everything and everyone else takes a step back, despite the first 1.5 hours of a seemingly brilliant heist feat in a subsconscious world. The ending is even worse, kind of Michael Crichton-like which means it just ends abruptly without much relation/reference to the first 3/4 of the story. What happened to Fischer? Did Saito achieve his true aims? Either Nolan thought they were unimportant, or he decided that the movie is dragging on for too long and suddenly decided to stop.

My favourite part of the movie?
"I bought the airline."
Brilliant.

Ingenious concept, but horrible execution. Which makes films like The Prestige and The Dark Knight stand out even more.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Dec 2 2010, 07:44 PM)
Watched mindf*ck Inception yesterday... didn't have the same kind of oomph as the absolutely brilliant "The Prestige".
Totally agree.

Too much messy hoohah, too much verbal explanation which should have been revealed by Nolan (via story telling and events) to the viewers, and not through characters talking to each other. Action scenes were all pretty standard stuff, characters were underutilised (Ariadne's architect role was useless once she's in dreamland), acting wise none of the characters really stood out. And to really make Cillian Murphy look bad you'd have to give him a crap role, which is what Nolan did. Watch him in Red Eye and compare the difference.

The lack of focus is also annoying. It's supposed to be a sci-fi thriller yet towards the end it actually digresses towards Cobb's redemption and liberation from his guilt. Everything and everyone else takes a step back, despite the first 1.5 hours of a seemingly brilliant heist feat in a subsconscious world. The ending is even worse, kind of Michael Crichton-like which means it just ends abruptly without much relation/reference to the first 3/4 of the story. What happened to Fischer? Did Saito achieve his true aims? Either Nolan thought they were unimportant, or he decided that the movie is dragging on for too long and suddenly decided to stop.

My favourite part of the movie?
"I bought the airline."
Brilliant.

Ingenious concept, but horrible execution. Which makes films like The Prestige and The Dark Knight stand out even more.
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the whole movie is centered on Cobb trying to "go home", so its reasonable to focus on him no? and the reason why Cobb needs to be liberated from his guilt, is because he can't control Mal/his subconscious from sabotaging the job

tbh Fischer kinda tell Eames when they sat on the riverbank towards the end what's he gonna do (pretty much implied that the team had succeeded)

however i do agree, the movie "talked" a bit too much, and not convey the message through "showing"
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This proves Arsenal fans have better taste than Man Utd fans when it comes to movies. And football.

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2010, 08:49 PM)
This proves Arsenal fans have better taste than Man Utd fans when it comes to movies. And football.

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tbh, i liked Arsenal's attacking play laugh.gif

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2010, 08:49 PM)
This proves Arsenal fans have better taste than Man Utd fans when it comes to movies. And football.

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Says the guy who thought Avatar was great.
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Gosh imagine if "The Dark Knight Rises" meets "Inception"...

Alfred : "It is time Master Wayne."

Bruce : "I'm going in..."

*Inception music starts*

Cobb : "What the hell ?!"






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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Dec 2 2010, 11:00 PM)
Says the guy who thought Avatar was great.
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Touche laugh.gif

Avatar was pretty much Disney's Atlantis with more violence and CGI.

QUOTE(dlct87 @ Dec 2 2010, 08:42 PM)
the whole movie is centered on Cobb trying to "go home", so its reasonable to focus on him no? and the reason why Cobb needs to be liberated from his guilt, is because he can't control Mal/his subconscious from sabotaging the job

tbh Fischer kinda tell Eames when they sat on the riverbank towards the end what's he gonna do (pretty much implied that the team had succeeded)

however i do agree, the movie "talked" a bit too much, and not convey the message through "showing"
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It is about Cobb going home, and the focus on him was appropriate; yet as mentioned the entire first 3 quarters of the movie was easily brushed aside for a simple, abrupt ending. The inception was a success as Fischer did mention what he was going to do, but it would have been better if he was actually shown doing it rather than "talking about it" which is one of the gripes we agree on.

Anyway, good try Nolan... but keep it simple next time or you might end up like M.Night Shyamalan, whom I actually think got too much unnecessary flak.
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Actly one of my gripes to Inception was actually this question:

Did we really need a decisive ending to the movie?
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 3 2010, 10:00 AM)
Actly one of my gripes to Inception was actually this question:

Did we really need a decisive ending to the movie?
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exactly! Haha.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 3 2010, 11:05 AM)
exactly! Haha.
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But for those that one a decisive ending, at least their hearts will be content whistling.gif

If keep thinking whether Cobb is in the dream world or the real world...

Those "group" audience will vmad.gif
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Dec 3 2010, 03:56 AM)
Touche laugh.gif

Avatar was pretty much Disney's Atlantis with more violence and CGI.
It is about Cobb going home, and the focus on him was appropriate; yet as mentioned the entire first 3 quarters of the movie was easily brushed aside for a simple, abrupt ending. The inception was a success as Fischer did mention what he was going to do, but it would have been better if he was actually shown doing it rather than "talking about it" which is one of the gripes we agree on.

Anyway, good try Nolan... but keep it simple next time or you might end up like M.Night Shyamalan, whom I actually think got too much unnecessary flak.
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well after watching back the movie, i think Nolan did showed quite a lot about the concept, and at the same time the character talked about it

the first heist sequence showed a lot of the dream concept,
-the machine
-the different time speed between level of dreams
-the extraction
-dream collapse once the dreamer is out/killed
-how dreamer's environment affects him in the dream (the slap and the bathtub water)
-how Cobb's own subconscious sabotage his mission
-dream within a dream

then after Ariadne was introduced the questions was answered

i think maybe because you're more focus on the "heist,inception" part, that's why you feel that the story ended rather abrubtly
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I do agree that if they can remove a bit of the conversation and put in more of the action (As in how the whole concept works), that would be great.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 3 2010, 03:38 PM)
I do agree that if they can remove a bit of the conversation and put in more of the action (As in how the whole concept works), that would be great.
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well maybe because Nolan is still not that good in filming action sequences? that's his weakness so far from several movies back
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Dec 3 2010, 03:42 PM)
well maybe because Nolan is still not that good in filming action sequences? that's his weakness so far from several movies back
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That I have to agree. Truck flip wasn't that mesmerizing after watching it 20 times now.

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