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post Aug 14 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(domcobb @ Aug 13 2010, 10:36 PM)
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While you have a point about dreams regarding lottery numbers but what's the scale of it? I mean, will anyone buy super big on a certain lottery number just because the number was revealed in a dream. In the movie, its about destroying an entire empire that could be a monopolizing company in the world. Surely, it will need more than just a simple revelation in the dream or as Cobb puts in, "This seed that we are planting in this man's mind will grow into an idea."


Added on August 14, 2010, 1:31 amDom's mission to incept into Fisher's mind was the result of Saito incepting into Dom's mind about going back to his children! If Saito didn't bring that thought up, Dom would have walked away with Arthur.

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I was thinking of the same thing too. The camera actually focused on the totem on the floor, implying something, I would say.
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well in the movie planting an idea is

impossible (according to Arthur): what will you think, if i tell you "don't think about elephant"?

"bloody difficult" (according to Eames): seed which is too complex won't be accepted

definitely possible (according to Cobb): just need to go deep enough

so combining all, planting an idea cannot be done in superficial layers and too complex, or else the subject's mind will reject the idea
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post Aug 15 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Aug 15 2010, 11:30 AM)
Fischer was just too gullible, that's for sure laugh.gif

He submitted his trust 100% to "Mr Charles", and even came up with the conclusion/idea of his Uncle Peter & of his father.

All Mr Charles did was just to keep on motivate him towards his own idea tongue.gif
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yea that's the whole point of inception, the target need to perceive the idea came from his own mind

but still, i agree with you on this, Fischer was just too gullible.... tongue.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Oct 23 2010, 02:11 PM)
What about you? Do you have any ideas that might work or is it totally 100% sacrilegious to even consider a sequel to Inception?
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its natural that WB want to make this a franchise (due to its whooping $800+million global box office run)

i think ultimately its up to Nolan himself, whether he wanna do another inception (be it sequel, prequel, or entirely different storyline with completely new set of character)

continuing from current storyline will ruin the cliffhanging ending IMO
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post Nov 28 2010, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 03:50 AM)
Hey guys something i dont understand from the movie

The almost end part where Cobb was talking to old Saito. What were they talking about? What's happening?

And in the end the 'gasing' didnt topple. means that is not real?
Or isit just about to topple?  rclxub.gif
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they are recalling stuffs from "their half-remembered dream"

the top did wobble quite much in the final second before it ends, and as we can see when Cobb described to Ariadne if they are in a dream, the top won't topple (the scene showed it spin almost perfectly still non stop)
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post Nov 28 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 12:02 PM)
half remembered dream? I thought those words they said when cobb talking to old saito was the words spoken the real world?
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yea, for them at that moment its still "dream" (limbo was still their reality)
only after Cobb convinced Saito that he's in limbo that they killed each other (didn't being showed) and return to the plane


Added on November 28, 2010, 1:06 pm
QUOTE(Forum Goon @ Nov 28 2010, 12:30 PM)
inception as a whole is just mediocre. People seem to think it's a great movie because the ending was so beatifully pulled off that it left audiences with a final good impression. Really, the ending is the only good thing the movie has. That, and maybe the Hanz Zimmer soundtrack.

honestly, the movie was incredibly boring, i was barely awake by the time the movie reached that scene in the raining city, and i dozed off a few times during the snow scenes.

and worst of all, the movie takes great pains as to make the mechanics of the dreams so overly complicated, and some of them don't even make sense. It doesn't help that the movie keeps overloading the audience with a bunch of new rules for the dreamworld every 5 minutes, making, making it hard for the audience to really process them all, let alone understand them. It's hard to make of what's happening most of the time, and i'm pretty sure 99% of the people who watched this movie couldn't either.

i give this movie 3/5.
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its hard to understand what happens because you dozed off and "barely awake" throughout the movie?

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post Nov 28 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 02:08 PM)
Hmm, I kinda agree with u. I dont think its that good as many people say it is. I really got abit disappointed.
And the part about the time in dream moves faster is wrong, it is the same for dream and reality, technically.
And seriously can a dreamer manipulate the totem behavior and tricking the subject into thinking he was in real world...zzz

about the bolded part- I thought if they die in dream within dream in so many layers, they wouldnt wake up to live?
Anyway, why is Saito so old in limbo and Cobb still so young?
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well its a sci-fi for god sake
dream feels real while they are in it, so no tricks is needed

apparently you can kill yourself in limbo and wake up as normal (limbo is a whole other level of dimension compare to the other layer)

Saito is dead before Cobb fell into limbo, so naturally he's older
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post Nov 28 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 02:26 PM)
haha relax, im just saying
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i am just answering, sry if it sounded weird for you blush.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 02:55 PM)
Wow, a hardcore detected

Somehow I feel that this movie is being "hoo-haed" just like Avatar
...but this is still a better movie

Anyway does anyone notice that at a part Eames face was exposed to Fisher and at earlier on in the 1st level of dream, Eames was sitting beside Fisher when he was kidnapped. Mistake?

And I thought Fisher's uncle was trying to kidnap Fisher but how come at last Fisher and his uncle was like ok d?
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well Eames impersonate Fischer's uncle, so to Fischer, he will see him as his uncle, not Eames (got a scene where Eames was "training" in front of the mirror, and the image in the mirror showed Browning)

because dream is hard to recall, and he had been preoccupied by the idea of his father actually "loved" him
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 03:19 PM)
but just a few second after that Eames walked into the hotel room after fisher uncle walk in and they point gun at fisher uncle
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giving his difficulties to recall the kidnapping event (when Cobb asked him in the toilet), its normal for him to not recognize Eames
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 03:37 PM)
So that was the real uncle peter as in projection uncle peter?
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in level one (raining city), Eames impersonate Peter Browning, pretending to be kidnapped alongside Fischer, and feed Fischer's subconscious ideas to suspect Browning staged the kidnap

and

in level 2 (hotel), Fischer own projection of Browning will act like what he thought (he kidnapped Fischer on purpose)
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 03:57 PM)
oh~~ but no i dont see how eames did it in level 1 hahaha
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first level is just some exposition (the imaginary safe code), and kidnapping, but made him suspicious since why the kidnappers want a goddamn will...
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 04:15 PM)
lol...noob Fisher
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yeah, he was just being jerked around by the team after they knocked him out in the plane lol
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QUOTE(Forum Goon @ Nov 28 2010, 08:03 PM)
of course it's too much for me, and it's probably too much for you too. lol inception is such an ingeniously woven story that you have to watch it 5 more times to even understand half of the things the movie mentions, only to find more things that don't make sense. Inception is one of those movies that makes you feel smart just by watching it like Minority Report and the Matrix.

you don't even have to talk about the dream mechanics. In the movie, both Ken Watanabe and Cillian Murphy are two powerful and very important leaders of huge conglomerates. It would be nearly impossible for a bunch of guys to even get close to any one of them, let alone hook up a bunch of dream gizmos, without security detail noticing. This was especially ridiculous when the group was invading Cillian Murphy, since Ken Watanabe was also along with them. Lol he's like his greatest industrial rival and threat to his family's empire, yet he fails to recognize Ken Watanabe on the plane? Lol logic.

Another silly thing is Inception tries to pass the bunch of dream jumpers of as good guys. Lol these guys are actually invading the mind of an innocent guy who, as far as the audience can tell, hasn't done anything wrong and is an all around nice guy. And for what? To stop terrorism? To cure cancer? To stop evil? No, they went in just so Ken Watanabe's empire can rise up and rule after Cillian destroys his dad's company. Not to mention that what the group really did was just feeding lies to Cillian's mind, and he'll destroy his company based on a lie. The dream jumpers try to usurp Cillian using underhanded tactics with the intention of pure personal gain such as wealth and power, and they're the good guys? lol.
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lol, the movie never brands Cobb's team as "good guy", its the story of an extractor (then again, Michael Caine's character even branded Cobb as "thief") who wanna go home and would do anything to achieve it...

its you who think that protagonist "must" be the good guys who "save the world, do the right stuff"

but yeah, everyone has his/her own take on the movie, and i am not afraid to say, this movie is the best of 2010, so far
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 28 2010, 10:12 PM)
im looking forward to seeing more movie with such a theme to be made- reality and fantasy converging


Added on November 29, 2010, 1:19 amAnyone here thinks that it is weird that he have the top in real world when he said that he got it in limbo? lol. mistake or not significant or does it mean the whole thing is a dream? hmm

Anyway to get out of limbo they must be killed rite? if so why are the making so much fuse during the kidnap on which saito was shot about dropping into limbo?
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not really, Cobb did picked up the top when he walked in the thrashed hotel room right before Mal jumped

and when you dropped into limbo, you will think that limbo is the reality, and everything else is a dream, so naturally you won't try to kill yourself when you are sure that you're awake right?
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Nov 30 2010, 10:50 AM)
Cobb and Mal were in limbo, and Cobb incepted the idea to Mal to kill themselves to get back to reality.

When Saito realized he is in limbo after talking to Cobb, he held the gun (I assume he kill Cobb and himself).

So getting out of limbo is kill yourself?
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pretty much yeah
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 30 2010, 11:52 AM)
So, how did Cobb know he's in Limbo in the first place?
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the movie didn't actually mentioned it, probably he just realized it after some times (they were in limbo for 50 years, and he must have feel something weird since there's only 2 of them in that city the entire time)
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 30 2010, 12:31 PM)
he's the 1st person to went into limbo rite. that means he must be very 'smart' to know that tht is limbo and thrs no one at limbo considering the face he has no prior knowledge of the place
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that's why he's the best in the job

then again, probably the "dreaming community" already knew the existence of limbo, just that no one had ever gone there...(not mentioned in the movie either)
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QUOTE(mrsmile @ Nov 30 2010, 12:50 PM)
I super like how beautifully they synchronize the kicks. you can see they wake up from layers of dreams again and again
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the part i liked the most was after Fischer's father said "I'm disappointed.... that you tried"....

just beautifully acted, and the score was just perfect

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Nov 30 2010, 01:27 PM)
potentially will be growing into some sort of cult film in the future.. how Inception did in worldwide cinema? any potential to win any Oscar?
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Domestic: $292,277,755 35.5%
+ Foreign: $531,082,239 64.5%
= Worldwide: $823,359,994


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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Nov 30 2010, 02:40 PM)
Wow... thread still going strong with opinions of "could be this" and "could be that"...  laugh.gif
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somehow i really like to discuss about this movie laugh.gif

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