Hi guys, do u hav any idea that where can i get good pencil eyeliner that is good to draw and doesnt even smudge and also waterproof?
Cos i've been using lots of branded pencil eyeliners and mostly smudge on my undereye..since i got big eyebags which cause it to be smudge easier b4 i even finished my make up..
Can u guys help me what should I do?
I know every1 must hav been looking for good pencil eyeliners so I hope you guys can help me...

This post has been edited by jnls: Feb 12 2009, 02:06 AM

Babe... Switch to gel eyeliner...
Longer lasting + No smudge

I've tried Bobbi Brown's, Stila's...
SO far no problem...

Or else, try Shu Eumura's pencil eyeliner... I've used it last time...

This post has been edited by Princess90: Feb 12 2009, 02:10 AM

Use Bobbi Brown gel eyeliner. BEST!!!
Easy to apply, wont smudge even after a day, and waterproof!

If you really want pencil (which definitely will smudge), try Make Up Forever's Aqua Eyes. not bad.

u can try Red Earth's pencil Eyeliner... its super black n da texture is super soft n doesnt tug on ur eyelids.. Its RM30+ if not mistaken..

prep ur eyelids with some primer if possible n set it with loose powder.. then draw ur eyeliner... in that way, the eyeliner can last longer without smudging..

This post has been edited by takayaki: Feb 12 2009, 02:23 AM

ahaa..yes!
Bobbi Brown gel liner is the best eyeliner.
its a must have items..=)
but the price is RM70+RM80 for the ultra fine eyeliner brush..
my friend said,Kate gel liner also good+cheaper (RM40+) n it comes together with the brush but havent tried before so dunno whether its good o not.
i've tried eyeliner pencil from The Natural Source before.
For me the color is ok but my eyes will look like panda eyes after few hours.. =(

i m going for shiseido gel liner, that comes with a brush. shiseido gel liner is long lasting too. i tried applying both bb and shiseido on my hand, then i wash my hand with water, i found that shiseido is more staying. just my personal experience and tot la.

for cheap one, you can try silky girl funky eyelight pencil. comes in with few colors. after draw the line, tap on some shadow powder, it last long.

Definitely BB long wear gel eyeliner.
Most important, its easy to apply and stays on.

THANK YOU babes soo much for the help and advice..

So babes mostly prefered bobbi brown's gel eyeliner ya... ok so i tink im going to get it..but i tink i try to get the kate 1 cos here in sarawak hard to get bobbi brown..

Is it gel eyeliner hard to apply?if it stil get smudge how? so do i hav to apply primer or base at the eye ther so that it stays all day??

for beginner, you can start using revlon colorstay eyeliner (so far this is the best for me, as beginner) or KATE square eyeliner pencil

when you are advanced enough, go for Bobbi brown gel eyeliner.. yup that's the best ever..

duno y, i m using MAC black track...but i dun tink it is nice to use....=(
heard revlon colorstay is good,not sure though...
prefer my kiss me liquid eyeliner...for me,it doesnt smudge so much..but it does smudge one time whn i sweat a lot...=;(

thanks babes for the advise...guess i wil get the kate gel eyeliner then..thanks thanks thanks...

*moderator can close the thread edi..^^

Hi jnls

Try Christian Dior waterproof pencil eyeliner. Won't smudge, glides easily and easy to remove.

ok thanks babe...wil go get 1 when i in aus...hehehe.. ^^

hey! i have a Q here.
are gel eyeliners suitable for beginners?
cuz i heard that beginners shouldn't start off with liquid ones..
advice needed.. ^^;

for liquid eyeliner..i suggest Majorlica Majorca BK-911~~ It was the best liquid eyeline i've ever used!! it was super smudge,water,tears,oil proof yet easy to apply cz it has a very soft and flexible brush ~ for gel liner..i suggest KATE & bobbi brown.^^

gel liner is liquid eyeliner??
hmm.. i'm looking for crayon eyeliner
any recommendations ?

i tried revlon colorstay..
but smudge a bit..

I've read abt Kajal eyeliner-Blue Heaven if not mistaken is quite good..neva tried but so tempted to try The price is cheap i think RM10..anyone knows abt it?pls advice..

hi u can try on artistry becoz is 100% satisfaction guarantee, plus if u feel not suit u. MONEY REFUNDABLE

artistry ??
in penang got ??

i like Tigi pencil liner. works fine for me. no smudges for long hours

I use Avon simplyPretty Eyeliner. No smudge and affordable

why not try lakme, its very intense and also it cheap...

if u want to prevent smudge, try dotting some black eyeshadow to the eyeliner, it help to stay put and less smudge. almost all the eyelines i used smudge as ur waterline is wet and it wont stay put there..

I would suggest Majorlica Majorca neo automatic liner. It's waterproof and i'm so in love with it. I've ever tried Dior liner waterproof crayon pencil, but it still smudge. MM neo auto liner is anyway cheaper than Dior's and it lasts long

MM's liquid liner doesn't smudge at all even after I SWIM and sweat for the whole day!

If you really really want pencil liner, try silky girl's funky eyelights pencil. There's no black in that range though... Don't buy silky girl's long-wearing liner because they smudge.

gel eyeliner is hardly drawn, won't?

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Added on October 26, 2009, 3:59 pmI quite prefer with shisheido eyeliner. not bad. Try it. : )

This post has been edited by ally chai: Oct 26 2009, 03:59 PM

Revlon ColorStay Liquid Eye Pen, in Blackened Brown!
Easy to use, am still a newbie in using eyeliner and already drawing a beautiful cat's eyes flick! =)

RM34.90 at Guardian. It has a felt-tip, like a marker pen does.
Give it a try.

I want to get myself a Rimmel Flash Eye Pen, but no Rimmel here =(
But still, I love my Revlon Eye Pen, woohoo!!

hmm..
maybe you can try on etudy house's gel eyeliner. it's super black and long lasting + won't smudge. but i'm having hard time to remove it.. aiks..

Yeah Bobbi Brown not bad.... Relvon also quit good ....

but the best was Chanel Automatic Liiquid Eyeliner, extreme comfort when application... water based formula with long lasting lines n importantly with no running neh

Gel liner is definitely not the same as liquid eyeliner - gel liner comes in mini 'pots' and you'd need a fine brush to apply it onto ur eyes (try Coastal Scent's angled taklon eye liner, Etude House has one too for less than RM10 after discount) while liquid eyeliner comes in a small bottle and is in, well, liquid form! My favourite is Etude House's Oh My! coz it reallllly stays (limited colours tho). Liquid eyeliners help to create a 'sharper' eye make-up look whereas for gel liner, like Bobbi Brown's in Cappucino Ink (?) can be used for a more natural effect.

Bobbi Brown Gel Eyeliners are among the best in the market - and the choice of colours are amazing! Good lasting power too but it's what, RM60? Coastal Scents also carry gel eyeliners for much less than that...

But I digress. Pencil eyeliners - the best for me are Urban Decay 24/7 and Tigi Bedhead Big Fat Fun (available in Sasa) pencils. Some other pencils that are easy on the eye are Chanel's. But both are pricey I was also recommended Almay's Amazing Lasting 16-hour pencils and ELF Minerals (smudges)

Like a friend once said.. It's almost impossible to find a pencil that is smudgeproof especially for us girls with oily lids. Your best bet is to use a primer beforehand. Some bloggers swear by Make Up Forever's Eye Seal to make pencils smudge-proof.