Hi , i am building my water cooling system for the 1st time. Will this be enough?

Looking to wc only the CPU and GPU:
1)core i7 920, with asus rampage 2 extreme, hoping to oc to 4.0 ghz
2)GTX 285 SLI
3) Ambient temp: 27-33'c

I am pretty new to water cooling and for my 1st attempt, i am looking for a single loop set up. Koolance seems to have a user friendly "product selection wizard" to help me get what i need.

1)reservoir - pump - cpu - gpu - gpu- radiator- reservoir. Is this a good set up?

2)will the koolance pmp450 pump ( aka mcp655, D5) be enough for this loop? i think it has a head pressure of 4m.

3)Due to my chasis, i could only put in a dual 120mm radiator, hoping to get the faser 240mm for this. Will a double radiator be enough for core i7 , oc to 4.0 ghz and 285 gtx SLI ? ( with two 120mm, cfm=116 fans)

4)which cpu block is best for core i7 ? I heard Apogee GTZ is really good... how about koolance 350? Koolance seems to be coming back ( they didnt do too well earlier) recently, based on 2-3 reviews in xtremesystem.com, the koolance 350 block for LGA 1366 cpu is doing pretty well, beating the apogee GTZ. But, could i really trust these reviews by forum users? Any suggestion?

Thx in advance

This post has been edited by blade10: Feb 8 2009, 06:44 PM

ok bro...
lemme share with u my experience...
currently running same setup as u @ 4.2Ghz

ok...
i m also using a single loop setup...
going to add a sb/nb block soon...
but no gpu block...since i dun oc my gc....

i'd say if u plan to go 4ghz + 2 gpus...get a 3xrad or 4xrad...
2x can barely handle the heat...

get a powerful pump...for future invesment...
get eheim if u can...
i m using a laing d4...enuff...but not sufficient i think..
i suggest u pm bryanyeo87...
i got all my supplies from him...frenly guy...good support and customer service!

as for cpu block...
ive read that gtz is one hella block...but i m using a danger den mc-tdx...
i m not sure if it's good or not...
but i get 80+ degrees on load...
so shud be fine...
koolance block...never actually considred it...
so yeah i have no comments on it...

if u r going to cool cpu + 2 gpus...
most would recommend a dual loop setup...
else the heat can be really a problem...
unless u r using some super efficient rad...
*cough*feser quad*cough*....
then i think u can make it with 1 loop...

anyway pm bryan koko...
i m sure he can help u solve ur problem...
he is the resident watercooling supplier...

@TS,forget about single loop with gc + I7 oced
C2Q 45nm + single GTX280 is barely enough but not idea
You would need two loop.pm bryanyeo87

Oh thank you guys for your input, oc4/3 and xandman

So i need to do a dual loop set up. Which means i need 2 pumps, 2 reservoir and 2 radiators right? I am using the "hp voodoo blackbird 002" chassis, it's big... but i am not sure i could fit in 2 loops, especially with the radiators.

More home work for me... will do some research and find out if i could put all these in my case.

Dump that case and get something else
That case is a bit too costly to cut here cut there
But if you willing to cut then can talk

BUY COSMOS BLK LABEL FR ME! haha MOD IT urself! nice aR!

Dont get eheim! It's blardee expensive, get a d5 or dcc3.2 instead.

For koolance just get the CPU 350 block and the GPU block. koolance 350 one of the best cpu block now.

I'm using the same board as u, wanted to wait for the Bits full mb block but it'll be only coming out in US sites end of the month and costs 150USD, so i suggest u to get the ek NB/SB block as i did, it will allow clearance for the 1st black pcie slot for long sound card like x-fi. ^^

u can call me n bryan out to yum cha if u want ^^ SS2. u can find my hp no. in my other post.

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 12 2009, 04:13 PM

hmm
do u know why that ek block sux
whats cooling the qpi/dram voltage card.. HMMMM

dat doesnt really need cooling. the only negative part bout ek block is u need to do some mod to place back the rog light. a thermal pad with a small ramsink will do for the chips below the dram. no coolings is needed for the dram. ^^

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 12 2009, 04:55 PM

oc4/3, cutting my blackbird 002 is a bit "painful" .... lol. But if i have to do it , then so be it.

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Added on February 12, 2009, 5:13 pm
So Acther, u finally got your parts from koolance? i read your post in koolance forum few weeks ago. Guess what, i am from SS2 as well, when i build my system, u can come to my house and help me , haha

cstkl1, i heard EK block is quite good for the cpu even though it is pretty restrictive.... are they not good for NB/SB? when i oc my 920, hehe, expect tons of question from me, so i say thank u and sorry in advance.

This post has been edited by blade10: Feb 12 2009, 05:24 PM

i know nothing bout installation. ask bryan lol. i nvr bought a single koolance item hahaha. since u in ss2 tonite come out yum cha la. u buying from byan also ?

Tonight cannot la... alot of "project" lately, probably also for the next 2 weeks. Got deadline to meet Anyway, will kacau u when i am done with work.

dram/qpi voltage card doesnt need cooling???
no wonder so many ppl cant do uncore 4k
for a noobie ure sure damn confident without any form of result

anyway will hear u b****ing about ure clocking after ure wc is done.

so give u a advance i told u so.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Feb 12 2009, 05:30 PM

wtf. have u ever take off the whole thing and look inside. Tell me then what cooling does it have on stock. it's jus a thermal pad that is sticked on the qpi ram. pls don act smart here and giving advice here.

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Added on February 12, 2009, 5:44 pm
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=361024&page=31

The above link will let u see what's underneath the rog light. U tell me what cooling do the stock qpi ram card have. if as u said without cooling it'll blow then why isnt urs blown out yet.

The chips underneath the qpi power card is the one that needed cooling after taking off the stock heatsink/pipe which u can add a a ram sink on them to cool them. The qpi power card doenst need any cooling. the rog light will act as a small heatsink enough for the card.

So now hav u understand? damn i hate talk cockers.

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 12 2009, 06:06 PM

dumbass i had the review unit before u even knew the mobo existed so please.
unlike noobies everybody replaces their mobo stock thermal paste instead of shit ass thermal pads and overspread thermal paste

haha stupid noobie cause mine is cooled by a crossflow fan

check ure facts infact try clocking ure proc before coming here talking so much crap
already gave u a hint and dumbass doesnt want to believe
sihh noobies think reading from other idiot he will learn.
idiots guiding idiots.

regret asking asus to make the 1104 bios for idiots like u to have the tdp limit disabled.
wasted my time when idiots like this post like this
atleast in xs ppl are grateful this is why i dont like lyn noobies. they get first mobo and know everything.

the qpi card needs to be cooled end of story
test it ureself for higher uncore
infact y not post a 4000mhz uncore

infact gtfo this thread and stop spamming rubbish when u can even clock for crap.


so many noobies also want to buy the gt without knowing shit. then complain here and there.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Feb 12 2009, 09:33 PM

If you are willing to cut then can fit but i think the case is rather small
And for me,i will go for Dtek Fuzion V2 + 1366 pro kit/GTZ.Fraser 3x120mm,nb/qpi v card block

hey idiot
ure the only one who doesnt understand what uncore is
that means u dont even know crap what qpi voltage is for
and that also means u dont even know muck about how that relates to dram voltage

before u talk
y not go google
look at ure own posting
u made so much assumptions when dont know crap
lets see that proc of ures die when u even have it in the first place
ure must be idiot who bought from CEX right..
lets see. talk to jp about u later.

I also recommend that u get 2 loops... 1 loop is for CPU and the other for ur GCs.... GTZ and Koolance 350 are very good blocks but for Koolance, the price is very expensive.... Unless u can afford it though....

@cstkl1: I thought to get uncore 4000, u need ram speed of 2000... Pls correct me if I'm wrong....

it has to be double the ram speed i think. though havent really get into oc.

chilled out

I know it is double but no proc is known to do 4000 uncore atm.... Maybe a few gems but not all.... That's why it's so rare to do so....

wo bu zhi dao haha

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Added on February 12, 2009, 11:14 pmqpi link max is 4000mhz where if u run uncore 1:1 it might fail i guess, it's better to run 8:9

it might be fun starting to oc it after my rig is done

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 12 2009, 11:14 PM

All I know is that the heatsink below the ROG logo doesn't need to be replaced.... I onli know that the onli one that needs to be swapped out is the heatsink on the middle which cools ur NB since it is all chained up....

Full WC setup is not preferred coz of the airflow.... This also needs to hav balance.... I saw some of the reviewers' PCs and they seem to cool the CPU, NB and GCs onli....

EDIT: Aaaahhh.... I c now... they placed an extra heatsink there... But I believe using active cooling is much much better than using passive....

This post has been edited by Aura: Feb 12 2009, 11:55 PM

yea the only thing that needed to be remove is the whole block then seperate the heatpipe of the mosfet from the nb/sb block. the rog light is a heatsink itself to cool the qpi card. the block of the stock nb/sb to the qpi card heatsink actually doesnt cool the card, it cools the chips below the card. so if u mount back the rog light means it has no difference of cooling with or without the block for the qpi card, only matters is the cooling for the chips below the qpi card will be gone so jus replace it with a small ramsink for the chips.

And that idiot came into this topic starting to bark stating that the ek block has no cooling for the qpi card which the original heatsink doesnt have either. the stock heatsink is cooling the chips below the qpi card, not the card.

really dem headache wanna make taht idiot understand.

why i see so many shyt and fck? haha

well i do know who is correct thou.

Anyway TS have you done your double loop?

I believe TS is doing his homework....

enough..if not enough than use ur house water tank and its pump..

cstkl1,place a fan,do some pressure mod and change the tim on the qpi v card,does it help???
Fan like some panaflo ultra high speed
Anyway,what the temp for the card without cooling mod??You did mention anything over 50 C will unstable@high uncore,right?

haha panaflo on qpi card ! i think his qpi card (cstkl1) is cooled by dry ice or maybe LN lar. if not he say can't achieve his oc target. LOL! he cant answer ur question la OC4/3 about cooling. He is pro at bios and OC so ask him bout OCing.

"unlike noobies everybody replaces their mobo stock thermal paste instead of shit ass thermal pads and overspread thermal paste"

ask him to take off his mosfet and qpi card, see whether his heatisnk is attached to a thermal paste or pad. LOL

"haha stupid noobie cause mine is cooled by a crossflow fan"

omg, there is a huge crossflow fan on his MB!! haha since he claims his mb sits on a bench.

"regret asking asus to make the 1104 bios for idiots like u to have the tdp limit disabled."

he is such a great man! Asus release a newer version of bios just because of him, cmon r2e owners thank him! LOL

"the qpi card needs to be cooled end of story"

statement he claims whole nite without knowing how the stock qpi card is cooled >.<

"infact gtfo this thread and stop spamming rubbish when u can even clock for crap."

yea i cant clock but at least i know how the cooling works, yet someone yelling whole nite saying the qpi card needs to be cooled but yet dont know how the qpi card is cooled stock. LOL He doesnt know that removing the whole stock NB/SB stock block will only affect those small lil chips underneath the QPI card, where i suggest to put some ramsink on it. He thinks that the block is cooling his qpi card. LOL

He doesnt even know that removing the stock NB/SB heatsink/pipe doesnt affect the cooling of the qpi card as long u reinstall back the ROG light heatsink, yet keeep yelling in this whole thread that if i remove my stock heatsink nb/sb block will blow my qpi card! hahaha

Oh wait, he'll come back here and call me to shut up because i cant clock! LOL with the statements he claims everyone that using stock cooling pls don OC to 4000 uncore or it'll burn ur qpi card!! Listen to him ppl!! haha WAIT! there is a solution, use a crossflow fan like he does, it'll provide enough cooling to reach uncore 4000! yay! LOLOLOL!

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 13 2009, 03:35 PM

dude,u cant clock then how u so much??did u own r2e or u just read a review??curious here..

clock i7 is not hard on r2e, i'm just not too into it in extreme oc yet, have more to learn but roughly i know how. we r talking bout the cooling here regarding the EK block, and yes i own a r2e.

there we have a super clocker up there giving comments. U can ask him bout OC lol

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 13 2009, 05:50 PM

@ acther
what qpi really does??mind to tell me??

yawn!!talking bout yourself izzit??
your post doesnt even help ts on any point,and bout that asus r2e bios 1104,i can say cstkl1 have been working closely with asus main tech department and interaction via phone call and e mail...and just f.y.i from my case report of asus p6t vanilla they did mention his name in my e mail once i told them im from malaysia and from this forum,so i believe he have some good contact with asus head tech department and can communicate well to them any problem we are facing..

yea i understand your so called hardware might be 10 times better then me or him but then most people talk and produce evidence so people dont really called them talking cock,but i didnt see anything coming from your side where else from him,i did saw quite lots of thing and most of his informative thread do help me a lot in some situation,hell i dont even know him that well..wonder who talking cock here now..

sorry im not here to defend him,but it just piss me off when someone just join this forum and have no respect plus bluntly talk without any basis...

he started all this first. i wont fark ppl if he isn't talking shit. wth evidence? the things i said need no evidence, dismantle ur r2e n u see everything. the one that is talking cock is cstkl1, coming into a cooling thread starting talking bout his OC. Most of the previous post has been invis by the admin. It's not me that wanna start this. He came in and start to talk cock first without knowing anything and after i post a comment he started to be mad.

and u, another idiot just come in here wihtout knowing anything starts to comment. Err actually do u really know what i am talking about ah? we r talking bout the EK block not able to cover the qpi card.

Yes he might be hell of a clocker, but he has shit ass attitude. he is just like u, coming in n comment without knowing anything.



This post has been edited by acther: Feb 13 2009, 08:44 PM

Agree.
Met cstkl1 in real life,he is very knowledgeable person,much better then me
@acther,you are the one and only who is talking cock now
Dude,don't fight with someone when he have much superior knowledge then you(To acther)
He is the one of a very ocer that afaik spend a lot of time on learning/tweaking his board
So TS,stop talking crap,just move on and chill

This post has been edited by OC4/3: Feb 14 2009, 11:50 AM

acther is not the thread starter.

acther,enuff talking..show us some result on intel i7 discussion thread..
if u said qpi card doesnt need to be cool..then show us ure uncore 4k..

wth. can u all pls read carefully wat i wrote before commenting. i said even though the nb/sb block is removed it doesnt affect the cooling of the qpi card. the rog light heatsink is cooling it. i'm not overclocking why do i need uncore 4k. this is a farking cooling thread, bunch of idiots coming in to discuss OC, f*** off back to ur OC forums

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Added on February 14, 2009, 6:12 ami'm not commenting anymore, wasting my time seriously. we are talking bout the EK block suddenly came bunch of monkeys disccusing OCing. The one who said the QPI card needs additional cooling is cstkl1, why do u ask me to show? bunch of idiots.

Don like me? ignore me or ban me. i dont care. I'll be much happier than talking to idiots that doesnt accept the fact.

This post has been edited by acther: Feb 14 2009, 06:14 AM

dude,its not even me or them doesnt like u..but cstkl1 do clocking and have a reason why he said qpi card need extra cooling..but u dont do clocking and said that card doesnt need extra cooling..on stock i think no prob..but to uncore 4k really need extra cooling..we are all newbie achter..

dude no point listening to him
he already said he is a noob and know nothing
and is a first time into watercooling
and doesnt even have the board or even the proc
cause he doesnt even know what qpi is and had to look up on the net for the picture of the board.

just ignore him

TS
koolance and bits already agree to this also after getting feedback from their own r&d team

http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/prod...?product_id=796
koolance qpi/dram cooler

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Feb 14 2009, 02:04 PM

what the point having water cooling if not clocking??better with air cooling or i must say stay on stock..pointless..ure hardware got sufficient cooling system but just stay at stock speed..same like having a superbike but stay at 80km/h..

Dam... That QPI/DRAM cooler looks outrageous man.... I'm sure it will be ultra sexy on the board....

@cstkl1: So, how's the GTs??? Wicked stuff???

cstkl!
the koolance look rad...

Other than overclocking, the next reason for watercooling I guess would be for silent operation.

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Jun 18 2010, 12:30 AM