QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
And i think ur the one who felt threatened about starcraft where else my 1st post was just a joke.
No matter how big a game community is they will pick base on the monetary value, not the quality of the games.Do you believe in change?
Do we just follow the flow? If this continues 10 years from now we have no more competitive gaming.
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
My conclusion with all my earlier post is WCG has chosen game not just bcoz of its popularity, but its also to make sure its survivability as well.
But u just cant accept the fact that they chose Starcraft not just bcoz of the fanatic fan base but bcoz they need money to sustain. Though u mention Samsung help build Petronas Twin Towers but they are still short of money to support WCG.
If they didnt earn anything putting up a game then they wont put. If they wont earn anything putting up Starcraft they will definitely wont put it up. Their concept is simple.
For the bold part, O rly?
Of course they chose it not based on their popularity. My question is do you agree with their method?
WCG gain nothing with Starcraft, if its not a Korean company there would be no SC. They're businesstard that don't give shit about gaming, but only think of their pocket. Why no SC in ESWC? Blizzard have Bank of WoW.
You know that's the problem for competitive gaming outside Korea, they rely too much on tech company as their sponsors.
In Korea you get some beer sponsoring Starcraft team. Know why?, because outside Korea its not yet a sport, but a gimmick made of such nerd like me and everyone else.
In Korea, even if you play 10 hours per day. It won't guarantee you the place among 300 elite pro-gamers. If anyone can become Maradona easily without giving up everything in their life, then what's so special about them? We don't simply "membabi-buta" call this game sports because we play it, its because we understand it.
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
The article is a bias mix of facts which try to point out how sux other game is compare to the 3 games mention above for low skills requirement. U said earlier about how DOTA require skills but now u support this article which contradict ur words earlier as well. Shld u jump from twin tower now?
Dude i used play WE, i know how Sports Sim is so different than RTS. I used to diss DotA before i knew anything about it, changed my mind after i tried to understand the game. You sir, do you play Starcraft? Try any of the big 3 and read the article for the second time then come back here tell me your opinion.
The winningkaki thread is the living proof that i used to be part of Footy Sim community. One of the best game out there, but they're not cut for e-Sports.
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
CGS fail was not entirely bcoz of the selection of the games. It was bcoz of mismanagement. If its management was a top notch it would hv been greater than WCG for sure. It has more than 50 million viewers across the world regardless of certain games popularity.
Why do i even bother arguing?
Srsly, you believe every excuse they say?
People still listen more to Linkin Park than Insomnium, even though LP suck balls. 50 million, make that 45 million fags(including me).
To be honest 45 million of them don't feel any excitement when watching the show including me. I feel nothing watching some kids play videogames.
Better play that game myself. Of course me and other 45 million still watch it because its new to us. After 9 years can you still say the same?
But, i feel so much anxiety and my heart beat so much during critical moment in SC game. I smile when my favourite player wins. I curse, and starts to diss all Zerg player when my favourite player lose to them. That is what e-Sports should be. Not some cheap gimmick but purely entertainment. 9 years of greatness, still the excitement never fade.
That's why game selection is important. Only those that meet the criteria should be put into the game list.
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
The article from jabenja is bias. All the way it has been bashing WCG but never talk about how ESWC has fail as well. And it denies the fact that all other games beside SC/WC/CS doesnt need skills. Have u ever seen Guitar Hero on a high level? It is one of the best spectators sports i've ever seen watching 2 guys battle out getting the right combination and timing. Even i got hook up by DoA coz watching how cool it is d game when played in high competitive level. The game mechanic is simple but bcoz of that it provides a lot of diff variation in the games thus provide unexpected moves. Just bcoz a game is simple to play doesnt mean its easily mastered.
Do you even read the date of that article?
Yeah exquisite taste you got there, mainly because its your first time seeing them. Srsly are you really honest? Can you say the same after 1000 hours watching them doing the same shit over and over again? New stuff is always exciting at first. The first time i watch SC player FPview i got orgasm, now not anymore. Its the play that continuously evolving that gave me orgasm.
Assuming the one i saw on CGS on TV is on high level(of course it is, silly me), i'd rather watch gay porn.
Of course if its your teammate or your country you're supporting, even curling can be entertaining.
Why are you so protective of DoA when most people from fighting game community hate it? Do you even click the Tougeki hotlink in the article?
Tougeki is like WCG for fighting game. See DoA in their? Capcom 2D fighter have the most depth gameplay wise according to them. Or could they who actually live by this genre be wrong?
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
Btw again out of topic u still havent answer my question, can u lay down the blueprint so that we can follow?
The article(Jabenja one). Re-innovate themselves and follow Korean as a model.
You don't agree with them but still you ask me. Perhaps you want better answer that suits your opinion? Of course my sentiment and most of my Starcraft brothers are still the same.
QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Apr 17 2009, 11:45 AM)
Can u exactly mention how did Starcraft and Samsung bcame so big as of now?
How do i know how Samsung became so big? Ask them.
For Starcraft. I have to edit the whole article intended for players to make it more comprehensible for non-players.
Why do i even bother doing it when i get this kind of response? Not worth it.
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BTW why do we even bother about the big 3, Why don't we discuss which game deserves or should be added into the club of the big 3? There are many game out there that have the quality to be part of big 3 but, often most people overlook it.
As for me Street Fighter 4 and SSBM, why?, because everyone who are in the fighting game community swear by this game.
SSBM have very strong foundation in the US without help of support from mainstream label like WCG and ESWC.
DotA is a must, if we can pick only one game for WCG Malaysia, i'd let go of Starcraft. DotA in Malaysia is serious business. Though they quite fail as spectators sport. Watching DotA can be mental torture, I know it cause I used to stream live DotA tourney between clans in my college.
This post has been edited by RtP|DEV: Apr 17 2009, 01:57 PM 
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. The world is bigger than we actually realized heh..? First Starcraft actually exist outside Korea, and now fighting games are also huge? That's why i said you need paradigm shift when i quote your first post. Even if it's a joke it'll create stereotype among ignorant, since you're one of the gaming elite in this country. 
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