Hey guys. I'm planning to get either an iPhone or an Xbox360, but i find it pretty difficult to make a good choice.

Firstly, the price of it. What is the average price for a unit? I strolled around Plaza Masalam (Section 9), and they said the price was "RM3266". I was totally dumbfounded. My uncle got an iPhone for my cousin sister from US, and it only cost him around RM1200. So, can you guys clear this up?

Also, i'm wanting to develop applications and games for it. I've read about getting a developer's account and all, shouldn't be a problem. So any developers here?

Thanks.

iphone in the US cost only USD199 rite? how come till RM1200?

3299 is rip off... >.<



This post has been edited by samlee860407: Feb 6 2009, 08:59 PM

you can get iphone for -$400 AUS without 3G from ebay Australia.
for 3G iphone $700 or lower.
I plan to buy also.
Maybe Vodafone plan

no such $199 only
got tax

seriously its a rip off bro...
u can find few forumers selling for much lower prices in GS...
these ppl tend to hike up da price just coz its iphone...
was walking in sg. wang, guess how much to fully software unlock ur phone...rm200...
rip off man


This post has been edited by harmeet15: Feb 7 2009, 12:01 AM

Whoa...still got such answers??

Not tax la..buy 1 iPhone like that tax?
I brought back a Russian iPhone 2 weeks back..don't see them taxing me..

US iPhones need contract..

Hmm, thanks for the replies, but where do you think i should get my unit at?

I'm not entirely sure if they sell iPhones at Apple shops in Malaysia.. so can anyone recommend me a good trustable place for me to buy one?

I hope the price isn't too high lol. Dad's getting me one for my PMR

Also, what is the current price of an iPod Touch?

how much is ur budget?

iPhone 3G 8GB is RM 24xx
Xbox 360 is RM 11xx
Used iPhone 2G 8GB is RM 1300 - RM 1500+
(Price from LYN Garage Sale)

since you are comparing Xbox360 and your cousin sister iPhone's priced at RM 1200, i assume your budget is around RM 1200. thn iPhone 3G is out of your budget. if money is not an issue..go for iPhone 3G because it is more expensive

Aww.. the iPhone 3G 8GB is too expensive. My parents wouldn't be too happy. The 2G 8GB sounds alright though. Where can i get a brand new unit? I don't really fancy used phones.

If it's all too expensive.. i'd have to settle with an Xbox360.

@dzerg, well, i don't really have a fixed budget, but anything about RM1500 would be a problem.

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Added on February 7, 2009, 11:55 amI looked at the Garage Sales thread, and i saw a couple of forummers selling new iPhones and used ones at a reasonable price, but my parents aren't really comfortable about buying products from a person we've never met... so which shop would be the BEST place for me to get one? Thanks.


This post has been edited by Playboy21: Feb 7 2009, 11:56 AM

why dont you settle for an ipod touch instead?
it's pretty similiar to the iphone (just no phone,camera,gps)

Hmm, i was considering that too. What's the price of it?

if you wanna go through apple,the cheapest would be 8GB-RM949
but through lowyat's garage sales would be cheaper. about RM880 (nego with the seller)

Wow, that's brilliant!!!

Anyways, before i get too happy, i would be able to enjoy everything that an iPhone user would be enjoy except for the phone, camera and the gps feature right?

Would i be able to use 3rd party applications, and develop my own applications and games on it? I'm sure themes would be fine, and yes, most importantly, software updates. They're all the same right?

If it is, iPod Touch all the way!!

you'd have to jailbreak the device first.
but yeah,otherwise everything is the same.
same apps,games.

well,except for those caller apps,anyway

Ah, that's awesome!!

Jail Breaking it shouldn't really be a problem. I've seen many guides and yea

hehe, caller apps xD

Thanks a LOT man. I'll look into the iPod Touch.

Redsnow will be available for you to jailbreak the iPod Touch 2nd Gen as there's a redsnow lite version(lot's of coding).

As for the iPod Touch, not everything is the same as the iPhone.

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Feb 7 2009, 12:26 PM

Hmm, those specifications seem pretty good to me

Thanks gary


Also, MGSrulz, where did you buy yours? Would i be able to buy a jailbroken unit from malls like Digital Mall and stuff like that?

i bought mine from thtgadgets right here in lyn(garage sales music section)
i wouldnt recommend you get a jailbroken version straight away(they'd probably try to hike up the price)

and you love coding,anyway
JB is pretty easy.

just follow step by step,and you'll unlock it

http://store.apple.com/my/browse/home/shop...uch?mco=MTE3MzE

I'm looking at those at the moment.

Mgsrulz, my parents don't really fancy buying stuff from unknown people, so buying in garage sales isn't really an option for me. I'll look at digital mall, lowyat and all till i find a good iPod Touch deal. Jailbreaking, as you said, shouldn't be that hard (Hopefully lol), and yea, the iPhone SDK is pretty cool. Really looking forward to developing on it, as it seems really cool. It would be a whole new experience for me as i've only developed games/ applications for the psp before, so yea

Thanks for all the replies guys.
Thanks mgsrulz

btw, apps on iPod Touch 2nd gen is faster than iPhone 1st Gen&3G and iPod Touch 1st gen. the processor got an increase of speed from its predecessor.

so for apps development (more on utilities and gaming, not the location-aware ones) iPod Touch 2G is recommended as for now.

alright.
but i think the cheapest would be through forummers here.
i suppose you can use the prices here as a gauge of sorts.

for example:
the price around here is about 900 bucks.
if you go to shops and see anything above 950 then (just go to apple terus la...lol)

btw,your parents are like my mother
always hounding me "stolen goods or what?? got warranty or not?? new or used?? can work or not??can trust the guy or not??"

walao..

yeah,it's not hard.
if you dont wish to do it manually,can just get one of the GUI based procedures.

i did screw up twice.
vista was incompatible with libusb and c++ redistributer (or something like that) and when i installed them, my computer got all sorts of problems.
the usb didnt work, my sound drivers went missing,etc

i thought i was screwed

but after uninstalling those drivers,everything went back to normal (had to enable compatibility mode to use them )

also during the jailbreaking(after that nervous encounter^) i made a mistake. i cant remember now what it was i did,but i just re read the instructions and the ipod rebooted as it was supposed to

you're welcome
hope to see you regularly here soon

Ah, yea, my parents are scared of being scammed

Hmm, about JailBreaking it. Is there any chance of bricking the system? If there is, can it be unbricked?

@LaskarCinta, the iPod Touch 2nd Gen costs the same as the first gen eh?

from what i've heard it is hard to brick,unless you intentionally do so
and if you do brick it,just click "restore" in iTunes.

cant say for sure though,cos havent bricked it yet

Hmm ok, that's good news. Also, i've got some doubts about the apple menu "pages".

How many pages can one have on his iPod Touch/ iPhone?

Also, would it possible to set an icon as "Games", and place all my games in that directory? That would make the main menu look much neater.

Go to this link, and follow if you're new on developing for the iPhone, it is advisable to read up on the platform and what it can do:-

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/

Scroll down to the "Free iPhone SDK" and click "Download Now". For those who already have an Apple ID, you can plug in your Apple ID and password, and you'll be taken to the respective page. For those who have not an Apple ID, you need to register one first. Follow the steps.

For those with an Apple ID, a link will be sent to the email you registered your Apple ID with to access the ADC site, so that you can download the SDK. That link also verifies your status as an ADC member, and once you get to this screen:-



, you know you're in.

I've procrastinated too much myself, wanting at one time, for my own use, to do two things - To compile all the relevant aerodrome data into one single database-like app that I can access on the iPhone/iPod Touch, and to be able to calculate the civil/nautical/aeronautical estimation of sunrise/sunset, so that I don't have to bust open my Mac and load up the Excel script to calculate when those sunrise/sunset is, mainly due to the fasting month and the need to address the passengers about when the time to break fast and/or when fasting period starts. Like I said before, I told myself I can delay this till later, to the point where, TWO apps have already been developed which does this exact same thing and more.

Both ForeFlight and Velaclock feature these things that I need, plus more too, so the procrastination continues. Foreflight has the aerodrome database, PLUS access to TAF/METAR aviation weather and NOTAM(Notice To Airmen) for all these aerodromes, while Velaclock calculates sunrise/sunset as per lat/long. Altitude deviation can easily gather from the Jeppesen tables.

So, the lesson I learned here is stop being lazy and get off my lazy butt, otherwise someone else is going to develop and take advantage of the demand for these apps first. Good luck on your quest, and please elevate yourself above developing silly apps like iFarts and similar ilks.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 8 2009, 02:27 AM

Oh thanks stringfellow. If i get an iPod Touch, i surely will try to make some useful applications or maybe even port some of my psp games. haha, i won't do shit like iFart haha

That is good to hear. The AppStore is a gold mine no doubt, you can easily reap the rewards, so to speak, even with childish apps like iFarts and all. But degrading the status of the AppStore to toilet humor jokes and pull-my-finger pranks, only damages the image of the AppStore in the long run. If you're in it for the money, then of course these criterias takes the back bench compared to the "dough" you're gonna make, but it is imperative that we do this for the long run....or at least, in your case, for your own personal satisfaction. I shake my head every time another silly little app goes into the AppStore that uses toilet humor, lewd jokes....or relying on the level of exposed flesh(if you know what I mean) to sell the app.

Which is the reason why I cant wait for the Premium Store to pop up. That should segregate the "men from the boys", so to speak. Not that I'm against cheap apps, but c'mon, out of the 15,000+ apps on AppStore, you can easily count with the fingers on your hands and toes on your feet, the most useful ones, among the sea of worthless apps around.

Yea, iFart does nothing, but make you laugh for a bit (I saw it on YouTube as i was looking at the iPod's features and all).

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Added on February 8, 2009, 4:12 amCan someone please post the link to a good guide on Jail Breaking an iPod Touch? I'm unsure what firmware it will be equipped with when i get it (?), so just assume that it's the latest firmware out there.

I've looked around, and i found some nice looking guides, but i don't know if they're the best out there.

Also, i'm on a Mac.

This post has been edited by Playboy21: Feb 8 2009, 04:12 AM

Ok guys, i'm a Mac use and i wanted to create an iTunes account so that it'll be much easier for me once i get my iPod Touch. I filled in the blanks on the first page, but on the second, the asked for payment method and all... I don't have a credit card lol, my dad has one though. I've got a paypal account and i've got some money in it (Earned from my psp developments). What do i do?

Follow the guide provided below to create you iTunes acc.


Section 'A' : An Introduction To Your Phone: 2. Set Up An iTunes Account

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Feb 8 2009, 11:40 AM

Awesome, thanks bro.

I've asked my parents to take me to Digital Mall, or LowYat tonight, so yea, we shall see

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Added on February 8, 2009, 12:58 pmI've got another doubt...

In order to transfer music from my Mac to my iPhone, can i just like, "Drag & Drop" my files to my iPhone? Or do i need to sync and all?

If i need to sync files, would i be able to select / deselect files that i want to sync, or will it just sync the entire library?

This post has been edited by Playboy21: Feb 8 2009, 12:58 PM

you have to sync via itunes,and you can choose to select all or only certain files

Ok, that's good. Thanks mate
I'll ask if i've got anymore doubts.

WOW
i just saw ur Signature column

u a MSG FREAK!!!!
get all those console just coz of MGS?

full respect dude


HIDEO KOJIMA ROX

actually,it started with the ps2 onwards.
but yeah..i got most of them because of MGS.(ofcourse they had other uses,too )

US selling $199 which is Rm700+
Unlock in Lowyat only RM150-RM200+

Why dun i ask my friend from States to bring one for me....
Here sell RM2K++

nak menyibuk gak. if Im not mistaken, my iPod doesnt brick but rather 'kinda' brick. just go into DFU mode, and restore. But I always save a backup firmware. click shift+restore(in windows, in mac I dont know) and choose the backup firmware.

Ok, so DFU mode is kinda like a recovery mode?

can bro. all u gotta do's completely rape ur beloved ipod touch (jailbreak i mean hehe) and u can download an app called 'categories' & it allows u to create various folders (named according 2 ur choice of cos) which u can place ur apps into so ur menu dont have 2 many pages. ey if u create a nice game and charge 4 it make sure its free 4 us ah!!

yeah,more or less.
during the JB process you will go through 2 steps of it.
once in a black screen,another a white screen

@ VexRed, oh that's cool. Haha, sure

@ Mgsrulz, ah, ok

in US u have to buy it with 2-year telco contract, of which u can terminate later by paying ETF (Early Termination Fee)
but it wont be around RM700+ anymore.

btw , u can perform unlock by yourself. i cant see why people wanna pay 200+ for unlock.

and for the unlocked via software iPhone 3G (yellowsn0w), it's good to assume that the unlock wont survive next firmware update, so u need to apply an update on the unlock part too. correct me if i'm wrong.

good luck bringing the iPhone from the States.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Feb 9 2009, 09:27 AM

Nah, i'm not gonna buy an iPhone in US, and bring it here. Mgsrulz suggested me to get an iPod Touch instead, and i really like it. Haven't really used one, but the features on it are really neat. I don't really need an iPhone. I've got a Sony Ericsson phone already, and i'm no businessman. Still in school, so everything is cool. Gonna check LowYat today.

After some searching, i found out that an iPod 16GB costs about RM1200 (Lacus told me about this). Is that a decent value to pay?

no, don't get me wrong. i'm just referring to the post i quoted in mine.



This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Feb 9 2009, 04:50 PM

Oh

By the way, i just got a iPod Touch 16GB 2G for Rm1229 in Digital Mall ( PJ ) and i'm loving it.

Is there any way i can just drag the application i want, and place it in my iPod rather than syncing it? Select-syncing a few files can be alright, but what if i have tons of applications, that would be tiresome now wouldn't it?

This post has been edited by Playboy21: Feb 9 2009, 07:26 PM

@ Playboy21


mate, i know you are all excited about your upcoming gadget. but instead of asking "trivial" questions (for example how to sync application, DFU), just experience it by yourself. i'm very sure that you will find this more rewarding.

also no offense, since you have spoken/expressed your desire to be an application developer for the apple store, i reckon that you ought to level (or least consider) yourself to an intermediate status. questions like those above, do not suit such a persona.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Feb 9 2009, 07:42 PM

lol k, i was beginning to realize that i was asking a little too much. I'll try to work out some stuff by myself. Seems pretty straight forward really. Sorry for disturbing a little too much though

Plaza masalam? sek 9?
why does tht sound familiar? hahahahaha!

This post has been edited by g3n0c|d3: Feb 10 2009, 02:00 PM

You're from Section 9 too?