almost 1 year i asked for pick up truck for long distance commutation and for site visit purpose, at last my boss willing to spend on a SECOND HAND pick up truck (ok la rather than nothing)

he asked me to quote him with the price for each pick up truck available on Malaysian road but he never mention bout the max budget, but i do think the allow budget will be only around RM40K to RM60K. if possible state also the price (and promotion available) for the new pickup for my revision.maybe my boss might consider a new one if i racun him bout high maintenance cost for secondhand car. below i list some of pick up that available here, so pls help me to suggest the best secondhand pickup. at least 2004 and above,

mistubishi triton
mitsubishi storm
toyolta hilux
nissan frontier
nissan navara (in my dream )
isuzu dmax
ford ranger

if there are more model, do tell me but no TATA pls (2003 secondhand can get for RM15k, must be the worst pickup ever )

as for me, i will choose mitsubishi triton (pls dont suggest triton lite) if within the budget.

well, the best of the pick in that list of urs is the navara.. but i dont think u can get 2nd hand one at ur budget at the moment.. its still very new..

Toyota Hilux

Considering the budget of max 60k, The only second hand model around the price range;

Toyota Hilux year 2001 or older
Nissan Frontier
Ford Ranger 1st or 2nd gen
Mitsubishi L200 (Storm).

You could get a 4x2 pickup for that price brand new.
Toyota Hilux
Mitsubishi Storm
Isuzu Dmax

This post has been edited by alpha0201: Feb 5 2009, 02:50 PM

ISUZE DMAX forever!!!~~~

for 60k u can get quite a lot of option..

a yr 0203 mistu storm u can get around 40k..

the new shape hilux is still quite pricey n out of ur budget.. but the previous shape one yr 03-04 u can get bout 40-50k..

the frontier's a good buy too.. its a really gud pickup truck n a yr 04-05 model is bout 50k now..

2 be honest, gettin any 2nd hand one of those is ok.. coz these cars r made 2 last anyway, theyre made like a brick, literally..

Basically either Dmax or Hilux. In east msia there are only 2 brands of OLD OLD pickup.. isuzu n toyota.

However considering that the hilux always change owners too often (stolen) take the Dmax lor. New one ~75k. Used one cheaper.

Long distance? Checked.
- Just drove from KL-Juru and back to KL single driver 2 days ago, no problem. Seats are hard enough macam mercedez. 2.5L average 120kmh about 60 bucks diesel per way at 1.70/L. If u drive ard 80-90 much better consumption lah

Get the Toyota Hilux SR Turbo or Ford Ranger Extreme, try not to get the Storm Evolution as i heard from my frens got many problems with it...

Juz my 2 cent

i drove latest hilux and ranger xlt before. both 2.5 and turbo. i found that ranger got more torque but slower pickup. but when ady at 80km/h, accel to 160km/h is lightning fast! hilux is so so only. just decent acceleration.

how bout mazda fighter? juz came to my mind bout this pickup. not so popular, later im afraid maintenance cost will be crazy. but in the end, it's the company who will pay for the maintenance and petrol. i juz want a decent pickup with good torque cos most likely i will speedy on highway ( at least once a week need to commute KL-JB, who can tahan to drive slowly )

ah, i heard that triton is the most comfort pickup? i read bout navara is comfort also but then definitely will be rejected by my boss since the price is 100k.

Jtuned, me oso if possible wanna avoid storm since the look is a bit ugly to me

maybe i will go for 4x2 if the price of is a lot cheaper than 4x4

mazda fighter is a direct copy of ford ranger except they rebadged is as mazda.

are you working in a construction company? do you have to venture into site medium deep into the jungle?

just get a 4x2 pickup truck if ur main road are tarmac and a bit of laterite. if 5 ton lorries can pass through it, a 4x2 can too. (lil rough road only need a higher vehicle clearance)

plus a 4x2 is ligther than a 4x4 because no transfer case thus more fuel
saving and cheaper maintanence.

fyi, my relative bought a 2nd hand ford ranger xlt year 2002 back in 2007 for RM41 000 at selayang kl there.

This post has been edited by kai_rel: Feb 5 2009, 10:31 PM

Want to be speedy, then you have to forget getting the Hilux and D-Max already. Have to consider the Ranger/Fighter or Frontier already.

Structurally cabin safety the Tritons is the best of the lot in Malaysia... worst/bad would be the D-Max in your list..

drove the frontier b4 from melaka --> terengganu --> melaka recently, quite good performance.. on the straights i was doin 140 most of the time, doesnt feel underpowered or strained.. FC's very good too..

if u drive fast, gotta consider the frontier as well..

i heard triton cabin is the biggest in its class?
should be comfier when u travel long distance

2 be perfectly honest.. none of these pickups r comfortable enough 4 long journeys.. i have sat in lots of pickups over the yrs on long journeys, n i hated every single one of em.. true that the newer ones r better these days.. but given the choice, i wouldnt wanna take either for long journeys

Bro , Toyota Hilux is the best .

i dont know bout the price..so I will just give my comment coz I`ve just finished scouting around for a 4WD

Triton is very nice, do u do off road? If not just take the Lite version, suite ur budget, but I dont pick it coz its to futuristic... and I need bigger flat bed..
Storm, AVOID IT AT ALL COST!
Hilux, i`m really surprise how well this car behave And to top if off I got a secondhand unit, just driven for 3100KM, plet number WRT629 for 80K
Frontier, I heard that this thing sux in climbing hill
Navara my dream too..but too pricey
DMax actually is my main target but that 2nd hand Hilux is really...
Ranger, in my target too but actually beaten by DMax, got the highest BHP/TORQUE figure...

if you want it to last, then get the hilux or the ford ranger. comfort the triton. If you masuk hutan i suggest you hilux or ford ranger. most natives in sarawak own the hilux so they can balik kampung.

why dont u buy a mitsubishi pajero 2.5 diesel turbo??my dad use it now and it is quit a good car..for now,for 2001 year,u can get it around 50k only..i think it is better than pickup,coz the rear is is more comfort.pickup,the rear seat is so straight..sit for long distance,patah pinggang woo..if pickup,u can try sangyongactyon sports..very nice n powerful car..use merz engine and most of the car are from merz..price also affordable if new..

anyone can comment on the triton lite? from the spec sheet,the power is lesser than dmax 2.5. Dmax's pickup is so slow,that even an iswara is much faster...

but the sad story is that i have these 2 to consider as it fits my purpose and budget. btw, this triton lite can fix bigger rims and tyres ar?small tyres look weird la.

I'm using a 2007 Mitsubishi Triton and yes the rear cabin is huge... almost the same as my 1990 Mitsubishi Galant. However, the price is around RM 80k used.

For RM 60k, u can opt for the Mitsubishi Triton Lite which is a 4x2. Everything same as full-spec Triton except engine is of older design, no turbo, no RPM meter, no FC display and available in manual gearbox only.

One thing l like though... it shares the same rim offset as 2003 Mitsubishi Airtrek, so plenty of rim upgrades with any 5 x 114.3 spec.

as for lite version, i read in some reviews ..they say the 0-100kph is around 25 seconds to 30 seconds..the actual duration is not given by the manufacturer..so i was wondering how much power it has when overtaking in normal roads...might be dangerous

mitsu triton beats all hilux,dmax and ranger.it also got awarded best 4x4 for 2 years in a row

imo, i don't really see the point of buying the triton lite.
you need 4x4 tranny for construction site / estate. you need the extra 'uumph' in turbo for highway ride.
for urban jungle? but then again, aren't the auto tranny is more practical in town?
perhaps, for 'kampung ride' / gravel roads with some load to carry. the leaf spring rear suspension suit it.

TS, within your budget, i suggest you look for toyota hilux sr turbo or the newer hilux commonrail
the hilux sr turbo ride is of course a bit harsh compared to the ranger, frontier, triton or the new dmax but easily the most reliable workhorse of the lot.
in toyota hilux commonrail you get the best of both world; refreshing cabin and good ride for long distance + reliable.
it had been around longer than the triton and the new ford ranger. so, the 2nd hand one should almost fit into your budget.
i used to the drive the hilux commonrail and frontier back in my hometown. frontier is more stable at high speed but built quality isn't something to shout about.

if money wasn't an objection, the new navara or the triton 3.2(as the 2.5 triton lack the smoothness) will be a good buy.
too bad we don't get the 3.0 hilux commonrail here

as for the maintenance, most tdi engine share the same concept of robust diesel engine + turbo maintenance.
doesn't differ much from another.

This post has been edited by yngwie: Feb 7 2009, 02:54 PM

but he is comparing between the pickups
triton should be the most comfy drive among the listed.. but tahts what i heard.. never own nor sit in one of them except hilux which is quite okay for me

yeah.. i think i agree wit u.. in terms of comfort, triton's the best amongst all the pickup trucks.. but still it is harsh n very bouncy 4 me..

considering that most of those double cab pickup is on rigid bodyframe and leaf spring suspension at the rear(for load carrying purposes), we can't expect much.
compare to the good good ol' days of bj-40s, the new hilux, triton and navara are a world apart in term of ride comfort.
perhaps, monocoque body frame is the answer.

btw, the triton comes 2nd to navara in term of comforts and even the amount of body roll. i already whacked both of em in the corners during their initial launch those extra hp and torque from the navara doesn't differ that much in real world performance compared to the triton 3.2. the 6 speed manual tranny should suit the navara a lot better
interior wise, the triton is more refreshing.
sitting inside the spartan style cabin of navara remind you of it's nature; a double cab pickup truck

and there is this after market suspension setup that will help in term of ride comfort too!

This post has been edited by yngwie: Feb 9 2009, 01:54 PM

both the navara n the triton 3.2 offers good performance (4 a pickup truck that is).. n i think i agree wit yngwie, that if both of these r offered wit a 6 speed manual, it would be much much better.. especially the triton, coz the autobox in that has only 4 speeds..

in terms of FC between the triton 3.2 n the navara, the navara's better..

either hilux or dmax. dmax FC very good for the diesel and hilux very tough/durable

Thailand get the 6 speed manual navara. ETCM still selling the older frontier for manual nissan d-cab in malaysia
UK too, get the 3.0 hilux turbo.
btw, the smaller displacement in navara; albeit bigger engine output translated into cheaper rad tax. thus give bigger
bang for bucks

TS, made up your mind and get the hilux commonrail. it fits into your budget

This post has been edited by yngwie: Feb 9 2009, 02:22 PM

hi,

i'm also looking for a 4wd.

Between Triton and Hilux, I would go for Hilux. Coz Hilux resale value better.

But if I compare hilux and navara I'm not sure which one is better.

Navara cost 10k more but comes with leather seat and more power.

My friend also own hilux informed that nissan diesel engine technology not so good as toyota.

anyone can confirm this?

as an update, i would like to inform that my boss ady decided to get a new hilux and a secondhand mitsu pajero.. what la my boss.. at last he's the one who decide.. waste my time asking here and there

get a india made TATA

if you want something on par with the navara, look for hilux 3.0. but just like the navara 6 speed manual,
it's may not available in malaysia.....yet!
my uncle's older hilux sr turbo engine is still working fine up to now, while his newer frontier sometimes
'coughing' under certain situation....
you do the math

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Added on March 21, 2009, 12:20 pmlolz...you are funny.
after 1 week of using it, it's as good as a junk

This post has been edited by yngwie: Mar 21 2009, 12:20 PM

i love navara very much, look more aggresive compare to boring triton, hilux, d-max bcz too much of them on the road.

well, exterior is fine but the interior is too spartan to my liking. boxy interior is past.
the triton beat it hands down here but the navara 2.5 with over 400nm of torque dwarfed
the bigger displacement 3.2 triton!

I don't know about the Hilux 3.0 but i've sat on a Fortuner 3.0 diesel turbo (Brunei registered) b4. So much more powerful than our 2.5 Hilux, which is rather underpowered during pickup. I actually floored the gas pedal and it just isn't going no where. The older SR Turbo felt more livelier. Looking forward to drive a Navara one day. 174hp and 400nm

2005 2ndhand price can get RM15k

it juz a matter of time when there are too many navara on the road


i drove 2.5 hilux before. the pick up cant meet my requirement

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Added on March 21, 2009, 2:39 pmi think this thread should change the title. '4x4 talk and recommendation' perhaps? we still dont have dedicated thread for pickup truck. we should start one. how guys?

This post has been edited by mutt: Mar 21 2009, 02:39 PM

of course 2.5 hilux is not as good on the tarmac as it was off-road. but you should try any
modded hilux 2.5 sr turbo.
else, the current 2.5 ford ranger with vgt turbo.
perhaps, we should create a new thread for 4wd enthusiast. i will put it up once the resources / research is done.

pajero not so good la,easy rosak le...
hilux is an unkillable truck according to top gear,
and storm's cabin is too small

i tried hilux sr turbo before, drove KL-JB-KL. in terms of performance i think the 1 of the best pickup in its class. but the drawback is the handling is not as good as current hilux. sux a bit and the FC worse than current hilux also (juz FYI only, who cares bout the FC anyway.. hehe..)

spare part also mahal.. but it's the company's money anyway, nobody cares

if they always see the same face buy the parts,the parts can go dirt cheap(like my bro).
sometimes they even let u kantao ur own boss

that one i tried was a modded sr turbo. somewhere in sabah. with bigger scroll and some other modification means for tarmac use(which is not a trend in sabah yet). lowered suspension and offset tyres. but still a bumpy ride. not suitable for highway.
the ride is a total disaster but i managed to hit 198km/h.

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Added on March 21, 2009, 5:00 pmunlike last time, where ford pioneer the double cab craze in peninsular with their courier,
they already become a rare sight on kl road lately...
losing out to triton and hilux.
perhaps, something wrong in their marketing / service?

This post has been edited by yngwie: Mar 21 2009, 05:00 PM

went to the nissan showroom to see for a navara in bukit tinggi

salesman told me have to go to pj to see one, so lame.


anyway I would consider to buy navara if price drop below 100k.

now I'm holding back plan to buy any vehicle now

let the auto industry sales drop like mad, sure got discount later

ford should change the look of the vehicle. they still remain the conventional look of pickup truck. that's why most of the ppl go for other brands. but if i have the money, i will buy either ranger or navara.

hi guys. sorry for bumping this old thread but i need to bump it ASAP. i`m thinking to get 1 of a 4x4 truck.. my choose r the triton 3.2 and navara 2.5. even the navara 2.5 powerful than the triton 3.2. is it possible to basic tune the triton to be more powerful than navara? :S

There are vector units and turbo booster for it (3.2) to come close_to/beat Navara's power... You may get the 2.5 to the 3.2's default power... to get the 2.5 Triton to Navara's would be difficult/damaging to the engine/gear system. Any of these sort of mod voids the warranty...

Tritons are know to suffer gearing problems/failing/inferior... and Frontier/Navara (s) have engine blowing up incidences in UK...

The Hilux and D-max are tough and durable (and frugal for D-Max)... but are not powerful

This post has been edited by BeastX: May 30 2009, 04:44 PM

go for hilux...or ranger...

owh. so the tritons r better than navara in ur opinion? maybe i shall get the triton since their power almost the same as navara right?

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Added on May 30, 2009, 5:06 pmi want a powerful truck

This post has been edited by Naoki: May 30 2009, 05:06 PM

At default... 3.2L's the torque still lack behind the 2.5 Navara, by a huge margine, Mother Trucker, one for the top Dog in 2.5L Diesel engine .... Give and take... each has its own points... Road tax does not really matter for Sabahans..

powerful?..for what...

owh. but isnt it 3.2L engine r easier to mod to get higher power? like make it to the max tune just like the navara? or is it really bad to mod a truck? yeap road tax doesnt matter


I like power coz i knw diesel engine not that fast compare to petrol so i want something that fast like a petrol car

hilux

not strong enough. only 10x horsepower

This post has been edited by Naoki: May 31 2009, 01:56 AM

nah, i've tested all sometimes ago. the navara does feel more powerful than the 3.2 triton but, in triton,
the engine linear is smoother compared to the navara. perhaps, the 'urge' in navara will suit your
taste for powerful diesel car
i see no point in buying a 2.5 triton and jack it up. it won't be able to get near the navara in term of power.
spending extra on engine reworks + bigger turbine will only increased the cost and possibly void the warranty.
btw, there are s limitation on 4 cylinder turbo engine. no matter how you crank up / modded it, you will eventually reach a limit where the engine can't take the 'punishment' anymore. and the internal part might just give away

since i used to travel frequently to sabah, imo, driving a manual car is more fun.
the hilly terrain/road punish the auto gear box more, so, the service interval for auto gearbox is a lot more earlier
than the manufacturer recommended interval. perhaps, installing an ATF cooler will help.
if you can wait, there is only one truck that matter most and it was the navara 6 speed manual which is currently
only available in Thailand but i doubt ETC will bring 'em anytime soon..
the monster hilux in UK will not be able to breath in our current diesel quality.

go for a test drive and feel for yourself. nothing beat the feeling of getting a hands on experience.

yo bro! thx for the long information owh. even the navara few hp different alrdy powerful than the 3.2 triton? cool but i heard that navara back seats r worst right? lol. how about mod a 3.2 triton? i saw somewhere in youtube some guy mod it to like 26xHP?

lol.. right. but when it cme to traffic jam it will be less fun too bad the 3.2 triton doesnt have the manual version well i still can wait if i really want the navara 6-speed. the thing in my mind is that i think a 3.2 triton should can max tune it to defeat the navara. guess i need to do more research lol. confuse