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Introduction

Announced at Nokia's Remix event in London, at the beginning of October 2008, the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is a mid-range, music focused phone, running S60 5th

Edition on Symbian OS 9.4, with a 3.2 megapixel camera, integrated GPS, WiFi and HSDPA connectivity, and a 3.2 inch touch screen. It's the last item on this feature list

which draws attention to what would otherwise be a fairly standard mid range phone. For the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is one of Nokia's most widely talked about (and

leaked) phones of recent memory. There's no doubt that it is going to garner attention, coming in the wake of the recent spate of touch phones, including, of course, the

Apple iPhone. While it's not Nokia's first touch phone (Nokia 7700/7110) or its first recent touch device (Nokia N810), it is the first S60 touch enabled phone and is a

significant landmark in Nokia's mobile device story. However, it is worth noting from the start that it is not "Nokia's touch phone", instead it is the first in a portfolio of

touch enabled phones from Nokia. This is an important distinction because, while the 5800 can tell us much about Nokia's touch platform generally, it can only be fairly

assessed in the context of its own market positioning (music focused, cost of 279 Euro before taxes and subsidies).

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General Design and Hardware

The 5800, at 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, is a reasonably small package. It is similar in size to the N78 (113 x 49 x 15.1 mm), but slightly heavier at 109g versus 102g.

Volume wise, the 5800 is bigger at 83 cc compared to the N78 at 76.5 cc; it does feel bigger in the hand, mainly due to the greater taper on its edges. While the 5800 is

significantly bigger than the typical mid-range phone and would do well to be thinner, it compares favourably to other smartphones and does not feel over sized.

Thanks to its relatively narrow width it is, proportionally, closer to the traditional candy bar shape (long rectangle) than most touch screen based phones (short

rectangle). If you think of your typical candybar smartphone, remove the keypad and lengthen the screen and you'll get pretty close to the feel of the 5800. The key

advantage of this shape is that, for most people, it will be possible to use the device with just one hand; even those with smaller fingers should be able to reach all

points on the screen.

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The 3.2 megapixel camera focuses well and takes great pictures in daylight -- indoors is likely a different story, as with most cameraphones, but there's a rather

powerful dual LED flash to help out with that.

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All of this -- in addition to things like GPS, WiFi and a side-loading microSD slot (there's a free 8GB card included) -- are wrapped up into an elongated, chubby package,

hence the Tube moniker. We'd hate to have something of its shape and thickness in a tight jeans front pocket on a regular basis, but we must admit that it's very

comfortable to hold and use with a single hand, something that can't be said for all touchscreen phones.

Software

It's S60, so if you were hoping for something else you'll be sorely disappointed. Nokia's done "just enough" to turn the traditional interface into a touchable one with

version 5.0, sizing up icons, adding finger-friendly buttons in lieu of traditional menu items and so forth. What Nokia hasn't quite figured out is consistency, requiring

double taps in some places, single taps in others. Scrolling through most lists requires dragging a scroll bar, pulling down as the list flies up, but the browser has touch

and drag scrolling. Nothing's too frustrating or unreasonable, but this is no seamless experience.

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What's new is a touch-sensitive button above the screen that drops down the Media Bar for access to music, movies, photos, the browser and sharing. Not life changing,

but quite convenient. There's also a new home screen with a "Fav Four" of sorts across the top and little else. Tap that friend, and you can get a quick look at recent

calls, messages and even related RSS feeds. Pretty neat if you're a loner, but there's no way to add more than four friends, or view similar info for your regular

contacts that don't make the cut. Luckily, the traditional S60 home screen is also available.

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For text input you have four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The first two are stylus-based (that mini

QWERTY is truly mini), while the other two are only available in landscape and portrait modes, respectively. Like we said in the hardware end of things, the resistive

touch means using the tips of your fingers instead of the pads, which we find a tad frustrating, but the keyboard in landscape mode is truly gargantuan, and after an

hour or two of learning we're guessing you could rattle off some pretty lengthly emails or Great American Novels. Luckily, if you're a T9 fan there's nothing stopping you

from keeping the phone in portrait mode and rattling off text messages with the touchable alphanumeric keypad, and the phone is frankly too narrow to work well with

QWERTY in portrait. The handwriting recognition looks good enough, but we revert to a 2nd grade writing level whenever we pick up a pen, so that stylus is staying

firmly in its holster. We're not convinced the touchable browser is a step up over existing WebKit implementations on Nokia's other handsets, since the tap to zoom

function is slow and unreliable -- and no, you can't select text from web pages to copy and paste. Panning around the page is also jittery, perhaps a tad worse than the

G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off iPhone smooth yet in this department. We were using a slightly early software build, so some of these problems might be fixed in

the final version, but it wasn't encouraging. Still, there's no denying the advantages of viewing the web on a 640 x 360 LCD.

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We tested out an accelerometer-based driving game, but it was overly sensitive and no-fun-at-all -- though we're guessing that wouldn't be a hard fix. The graphics

looked pretty good, though. Movies are potentially this phone's killer app, but you'll have to do the conversion just right to get smooth playback at full resolution. We did

see some video shot with the phone (that Sea World shot in the gallery) and it looked pretty good.

Conclusion

If you haven't picked it up by now, Nokia isn't going after the power users here. The phone will be marketed under Nokia's "Live" banner, and really concentrates on the

most basic communications -- calling and texting -- with a whole bunch of multimedia piled on top. Nokia's Comes With Music helps on that end of things, and the screen

certainly helps with video, but this is no iPhone when it comes to to solid media integration or full-featured media player apps. On the communication side, we're sad to

see Nokia almost burying some of its S60 advantages. Everything's still there, but Nokia didn't put the gruntwork in necessary to really take advantage a next-gen

interface as it relates to keeping track of emails, social networking, IM and the correspondences of more than four people. All that said, Nokia isn't claiming that the

5800 is the be all end all, is releasing it with a very aggressive price point (€279 unlocked), and promises more where this came from.

Info quoted from www.Engadget.com while photos are courtesy of www.Sogi.com.tw
Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Spec:

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What's in the box

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Official Retail Price: RM1499
(Original Distributor: Zitron, Avaxx, Sapura)
Bargain and sourcing around, you might get a better price, approx RM12xx-RM13xx.

Screen Protectors For Our Beloved Tubes [sorted according to price (lowest - highest)]

Skool LYN Seller RM 6 (Screen & Camera Only)

Martin Fields Overlay Plus Website ; LYN Seller RM 50 (Screen, Camera & Flash Only)

ZAGG invisibleSHIELD Website ; LYN Seller RM 60 (Whole Body), RM 30 (Screen Only)

ALL SPs ABOVE HAVE PRE CUT HOLES FOR THE PROXIMITY SENSOR...

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Free Apps & Games for your Nokia 5800

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JUST GOT YOUR 5800/TUBEY? GO HERE FIRST! :
What to do when you first get your Nokia 5800 XM
All About Symbian Guide for 5800 First Timers

Applications for the latest S60 5th edition phones:

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MANY MORE ARE COMING SOON!

More FREE THEMES/APPS available here:

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Are you one of the owner? Grab this userbar now!

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Nokia 5800 Tips & Tricks

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Contributed by hvaly.

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HOW TO READ THE IMEI CODE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR TUBEY WAS MADE

Contributed by AsuKi

To find out where your nokia phone was made look at digits number 7and 8 (YY) of your IMEI.

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LINKIES TO OTHER TIPS

http://www.darlamack.com/darlamack/2008/03...y-performa.html

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Method 5 shows how to embed subtitle files (.srt, .sub, .ssa, .ass, .smi, .psb, .txt, .idx, .usf & .xss) and convert the video at the same time

Method 1
Guides written by Eiraku ~ Tutorial for Handbrake

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Method 2 : RMBV to MP4 Converter

Method 3 : WINAVI MP4 Converter

Method 4
Guides written by RiuK3n. ~ Tutorial for Super converter

Pros & Cons
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Before Starting

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Method 5

this method was contributed by ridzyroo

first and foremost download the software E.M. Total Video Converter 3.14 and google the serial number. Input it at the about us section of the software to register it. Don't forget to run it as admin in windows vista.

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thank you for following my method =)

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Known problems.

Some known problems which may occur on your Nokia 5800 (which happened randomly on the phone)

Quoted from the owners:
You may DIY and fix it. (Do it at your own risk)
Source 1 | Source 2 (Or you may refer Post #6.)

Alternatively, send in for warranty claim.

On 5/1/09 - We have forumer sent it to Nokia Care Centre, located at plaza berjaya.. 1st floor. it took about 1-2 hours to fix.
So according to him, the speaker is fixed! and no more volume fluctuation!

Give it a soft reset by key in *#7370#
Lock code: 12345
Its equivalent to a factory reset to default settings. All programs will be lost. Backup here means using either built-in backup utility or PC Suite backup to backup all your messages, contacts, calendar, to-dos, meetings, and necessary phone settings. Content in micro-SD card is unaffected but applications installed in it will be re-detected by the phone and re-installed automatically. It works like a charm.
Don't worry about the light leakage. Its typical to see it and am very sure any phones/products made in plastic will see such imperfections.

On 5/1/09, a forumer sent a letter to Nokia about the speaker problem, apparently Nokia isn't aware of this issue yet.
Here's the reply from them:

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8/1/09 - Here's the POLL result created by forumer chezzball. About the user statistic of Nokia 5800 defect / working perfectly.

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Firmware Upgrading
APAC v11
http://www.rayfile.com/files/e142c71e-dcc9...9-0014221b798a/

Phoenix 2008 patch, download one of it only
1. http://www.namipan.com/d/Phoenix2008Patche...ca634bdf1c51107

2. http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/0260d2b...9-0014221b798a/
This is fast, but you need to install rayfile app (RaySource), something like a download manager. you can download RaySource from here
RaySource http://static.rayfile.com/en/client/
Guide on installing Phoenix & firmware.

3. Latest Firmware Update & Logs

4. To download Nokia Software Updater

5. To check on: Latest Firmware Availability

6. Flashing your Bricked/Dead Nokia 5800 phone - Hard Reset Your 5800
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DIY FIX: Speaker volume problem.

(Do it at your own risk. If you can't handle it, send it back to Nokia Care Centre and let the professionals do it for you)

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Articles & Photos courtesy of Snake from mynokia.su & our LYN forumer jye'n.

Before you start, there's a suggestion by the Snake.

**Attention! All the action is desirable to carry out in the bathroom, because there is no dust because of the humidity.

1) Use the plectrum, open the top cover/lid starting from the camera button.

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You should remove only the plastic 'frame' which locks the screen to the phone's body. It is detachable on its own (no screen, no metal parts).

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Oh hey, you look lost!!!
No worries, here's a Youtube LIVE demo about the DIY steps!!


2) This is how it looks like when the earpiece is in place:

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Next, use a flat-head ('-' type precision tool or any small screw driver.

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3) Removing the earpiece will reveal the two contact points on the mainboard for the earpiece.

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4) Here's the default appearance of the earpiece (bottom):

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To make sure the pins can touch the contact points (highlighted above) properly, I bended the earpiece pins 'upwards'. (Be very careful here not to break the pins. You may want to hold points A and B while bending.

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Now, you're done with bending. Next, put back the earpiece. Here's the tricky part, as you may have forgotten which is the correct position to put in. No worry, the part is keyed, meaning, it can only go in one way. Try the other way if the 1st trial fails. DO NOT force it in, it should go in smoothly.

5) Put back the the cover and the plastic 'frame'. Now you're done
and can forget about the earpiece problem forever smile.gif

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Tutorial: Installing Garmin Mobile XT On The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic RELOADED Part Deux : Click Me!

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Should you have any queries, feel free to discuss on the board. biggrin.gif

*Photos are for illustration purposes only, quoted from eprice.com.tw
*They're using Papago, something like our Garmin software, but is specifically for Taiwan only.

Problems with Garmin XT V5 on the 5800:

The background program TSRAUTORUN.EXE runs EVERY time you restart your phone / Run Gramin XT --> Kills your battery life...

Solution: http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discus...sage.uid=417412

But you STILL NEED TO KILL TSRAUTORUN.EXE with KillMe (provided above) or Best TaskMan EACH TIME YOU EXIT Gramin XT... sweat.gif

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Indoor Camera Settings

1)
QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 6 2009, 02:40 PM)
Well, I think after playing with the camera settings for hours and taken more than 60 shots, I'd say I found one that maybe just right.

Scene mode is in Night. Flash, White Balance and Light Sensitivity is set to Auto. Exposure compensation 2. Colour Tone normal. Sharpness Soft. Contrast Normal.

These settings work best for me in any light conditions. You may however find these settings not satisfying enough for you, but you can try it out anyways.  tongue.gif
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you can enter and save these settings by going to camera > show extended toolbar (3-line) > scene mode > user defined > change

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NOKIA 5800 XPRESS MUSIC OWNER LIST (UPDATED: 04/02/09)

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You want your name to be in the list? PM me

The RED Team
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The BLUE Team
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Nokia Care Centre (KL, Selangor, Kedah, Penang, Perak)

KUALA LUMPUR

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SELANGOR

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KEDAH
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PENANG
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PERAK
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Full list of centres :- Avaxx.com

For other states, if you find any info, kindly PM or post & share in the forum.

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OMG v7 already !!!
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Yup let's start spamming here instead.
Hopefully this new TS will lead us to greater stuff.
Hahaha...
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V7 Started ???? rclxms.gif
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All hail to 5800!
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lol...greater ah?I takut I won't live up to you all punya expectations only...

gah...I was damn stressed >.<
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new home already..let start all over again....

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