so ur point is the protein in oriject is cut down by half 2 times so it's not so high lah. while the others then cut til even lower?
anyway my concern is not only the protein lah. why lah u promote orijen or whaT?lol

The amount of chicken inside the food.... more chicken mah higher protein lor

Orijen says 70% is meat and 30% is the rest... so 40%+ protein comes from the 70% meat in the food and small portion from the 30%.. while other pet food have lower amount of meat in the food, hence lower protein.

Nothing to do with deboned chicken or chicken meal. Chicken meal actually better then deboned chicken, because chicken meal is weighted without water.

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Added on April 25, 2009, 8:05 pm
kinda misleading in my opinion 

The Orijen if on the way here got heated then all probiotics and enzymes all gone lor. Then no point putting it in oso. And i don't think hot until the protein level come down? Unless inside the container the temperature is beyond boiling point. And furthermore that hot, every oil in the dog food, the fish oil, tocopherol will all go rancid also, which is very bad, becos rancid oil is toxic to a certain extent.  And it's correct for the meat and meal thing. Meat is weight with water. Meal is without. So 1 kg of meal definitely has more protein than 1 kg of meat. Anyway so much protein is bad cos it'll overwork the kidneys because excess protein that is not used in the body will either be turned into glucose or fat, in which either way is gonna create a by-product of urea, which the kidney needs to filter it, and too much of urea means more work for kidney. AAFCO protein requirement for adult dog is only 18% minimum, providing it's all utilisable protein. There's no maximum, of cos, but obviously the harder your dog work(like exercise, play and stuff), the more protein they require. Not the case for our city dogs.

agree. i change from orijen to actually reduce my dog's kidney burden. and i sumhow think he cannot digest orijen very well and it turn outs he eating back his own poo.

ya and i dunwan it to burden his kidney so i change. im feeding innova now. no more eating poo. keke

haha u ambil win win then i go with who?
lose lose a?
if got lose lose maybe can la hahahahaha

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Added on April 25, 2009, 10:15 pm
when win win had orijien never eat poo before wor.....each time shit sure bark till u kutip the shit o nt u cn either become deaf or gila of her barking

I just get to know there is one supplement for stop poo eating LOL.. anyone wanna test it out?