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k3w3ll
post Apr 29 2010, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Apr 29 2010, 09:40 AM)
that only make sense if the test question is related to the position.

if you intend to broaden up those question, do that in verbal/face to face.
question like what make the king of programmer

don't lum-sum anything to a test paper.
if you intend to use that at 1st filter, do it intelligently.

question about "king of programmer" in test paper, its a joke.
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That is the purpose of the 'test'. They are not seeking for skillful staff but also with good attitude.

Even a question in test paper can piss you off like this and complaint so much on the question then they don think you have the correct attitude.
Thus, that is how filtering is work.

Who knows 1 day assigned you a task required different skillset from what you have then you will piss off easily and keep complaining instead. Let say you are from R&D team but assign you to support a system for days?

"ask me to support"? its a joke!"
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post Apr 29 2010, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Apr 26 2010, 01:44 PM)
really, if the test really pissed you off, the company is so and so.
you may find the environment on your 1st inspection quite good, but with that kind of test questions, you can guess more of less the so-call pro/senior is what level.

you may work in a good environment, but can you stand moron?

if no, then forget them.
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Indirectly filtered those candidate who not happy with the question oredi.


Added on April 29, 2010, 1:25 pm
QUOTE(mbcx4jrh @ Apr 28 2010, 02:39 PM)
Well that's very nice of you.
Here's my thoughts on tests - from an employers POV.

A test is a way of filtering large number of applicants down to a manageable number to interview. As such the questions try and focus on key areas the hiring manager requires. Some might be happy with a generic <insert language here> test, however we (and others) focus on certain aspects that we require *as a baseline*.
Test questions might be anything from fundamental principles (eg. logic), to API knowledge, to general knowledge.

But they do just provide a filter. Sometimes you get false positives (unsuitable applicant passes), sometimes you get false negatives (suitable applicant fails). Although this can seem (and indeed is) personal to the applicant, it is just a game of numbers to the hirer.

As an example I've got through 1,400 CVs in the past 12 months. If I'd have reviewed each CV properly it would have taken nearly 8 months work. To interview, would taken that up to 23.5 months.


The message I'm trying to get across is that you should not consider a fail at any particular test or interview for *any* company a personal thing.

The company will be looking for *suitable* employees - this doesnt just mean skills, it can mean personal attitude, team work, culture, language, etc etc. Some companies might even hire based on a willingness to work 12hr days 6 days a week (not me though!).

Just some thoughts from someone who's done a lot of interviewing and also been an interviewee a lot (I'm from a technical background - if you want to see my history then it's here )

mbc
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The director of R&D did explained why they need to filtered.

If you dono answer then leave it blank and pray will be shortlisted.
Else just leave(this is the purpose of 'filtering')

I went for their senior java developer interview but din't smell anything wrong. I passed the test too but eventually i din go for hiring manager interview due to better offer from others.

This post has been edited by k3w3ll: Apr 29 2010, 01:25 PM
k3w3ll
post Apr 29 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(u007 @ Apr 29 2010, 04:55 PM)
I guess you should be one of management or the person who took the test.
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He just shown you the question is fair enuf to be answered.

Learn this is better than suspect him.

Thanks tomyeo for the possible answer. Indeed make sense


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post Apr 29 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(tomyeo @ Apr 29 2010, 05:51 PM)
I do find a problem with the the word "king" of programmers though...  smile.gif What if my favourite programmer is... Ada Lovelace?
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Should change the word to 'god' perhaps?? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 3 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(u007 @ Apr 30 2010, 11:08 PM)
btw,

there is some weird problem going on with your interview.
why would someone failed the test need to go to another interview?
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Same doubt having for this TS too
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1381015

Failed the interview but still got offer.. But suspect is a trap then rejected the offer.

I not sure others but for me I not only looking into technical but most importantly 'attitude'. I never consider even u r best technical person but u have bad attitude.

 

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