Good suggestion, maybe can ask him to bring it to a tuner shop and pay after intallation.

The problem with mechanical mods is that it is very limited for the CPS, and I suspect the siemen ecu will negate any mods made...

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Added on March 16, 2009, 2:30 pmZen, you mean this one?
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/eng...month-only.html

Yeah, just noticed that too. But I think its too advance for me, even the unichip also. I prefer something simpler like Neo which allows me to play with the setting. AFAIK, the problem with neo is during the close loop operation (<5k rpm) but works in higher rev. Since my engine have torque decrement after 5k rpm, can I use the Neo to improve that. Something like when crusing, standard setting (ECU) but when high speed, the Neo takes over. Can like that onot?

From what i've read in other forum, its considered WOT if the rpm is more than 5k. 

I've emel JC Racing and they confirmed that the Neo can be use without problem. Should I trust them since RS Impressive says it is not suitable and recommend unichip instead.

So what do you think? For me, although unichip is far better in term of functionality, it will be kinda waste.

True, thats why I prefer Neo as I want to play n learn about car tuning (the basic ler). As problem with close loop, its not a problem for me as long as it works during WOT (high rev). 

Maybe will go to JC Racing this thursday and get it installed. How much and how long will it usually take for installation and tuning?

One more thing, where should put the Neo (one of my main concern).

Will do that. Thanks 

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Added on March 17, 2009, 4:51 pmOne more thing, how much for installation + tuning?

Still no reply (emel) from them. Either they are too busy or there is problem with Neo+Campro.

Yeah, need to double confirm with them. But from my understanding, it can works assuming:
-wiring is correct especially the throttle position
-open loop when rpm is >5k where the ECU start to read the MAP rather than the o2 sensor.

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Added on March 17, 2009, 11:51 pmZen, how bout VAFCII? Although Neo is cooler but have to hide it somewhere, so cannot see those colour screen also. Maybe can get VAFCII cheaper.

Yah, it has less tuning point, but for me beginner like me, its seems better. But the colour screen of neo is really tempting.

Stop poisoning me ahhhhhhhh...  

BTW, those selling unichip said that R3 use them. I think they got confuse between SPS/RACE and R3. SPS/RACE sells R3 stuff but at the same time sells their own stuff such as unichip for Neo.

Fyi, single sitter race car running a campro(CPS ?) and a turbo slap on..

http://gen2clubbrunei.blogspot.com/2009/02...ro-powered.html

Btw, this is the gen2 brunei club..., must be some rich fellow toy..

I just notice that standard CPS car has louder bassy exhaust sound compared with non CPS Campro. Maybe due to the larger piping perhaps.

easiest to gain power... 
- 1.3campro piston = if got 2nd hand piston.. less rm500 include installation. but please do hard breaking to set now piston ring.. new piston rm400
refer here - http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
- fuel regulator = tune back fuel at WOT... for part throttle let ecu tune by close loop - rm360 include installation for arospeed large
- 2" stock cps piping + straight flow 2.2" muffler + 4-2-1 or 4-1 extended primary race extractor - rm500-600
- open pod air filter + heat shield + cold air intake - rm400-600

than try to transfer all power from engine to tire...
- use redline MTL gearbox oil - rm55 per liter
- use 0w30 or 10w30 oil
- light weight crank pulley - rm 540
- 15" light weight rim
- front tire use 195/50/15 .... less circumference = more pickup you will feel

than go for unichip if got money....
you oso can skim head to increase compression iff dun want to use 1.3 piston... but sayang lah.... cps head hard to find now... no recommended
yaa.. 5hp can feel oledy...  n/a engine hard to gain power oooo....  upgrade above, can get 130++whp with unichip maybe...   if just tune with fuel regulator.... less hp maybe, coz cannot tweak ignition timing... n/a engine need advance ignition to gain power..

my friend b16a vtec with type-r piston + afc neo.... only got 145whp...  if get above 140whp oledy fun to drive....

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Added on March 19, 2009, 4:47 pm
my car gen2 oso ... both already broke.... me oso not langgar..

dun no why it broke...      

maybe installation not good, sangkut bumper maybe...

Maybe got hit by flying rock while speeding. My windscreen also got 3 small rocks due to these rocks...
Almost 1.9k including tuning, better go for unichip (2.2k), got many more function but no fancy display.

hehehe... already mod step by step loo.... right now have basic for bolt on turbo..

now on my car :

-knn air filter
-low resistance cable plug
-denso it22 spark plug ( one step colder- for turbo ) normal use it20
- LCP
-arospeed fuel regulator large for turbo
- 2.2" straight flow muffler
- rebore throttlebody
item still on my list :
-td05 evo3 ( vr4 turbine housing - small compere to evo for fast spooling )  - rm1300
-greedy type rs bov -rm500
-steel banana -rm800
-avs intercooler (very good cheap ic, same design with famous ARC. good internal fin) -rm500
-custom intercooler piping -rm800
-unichip -rm2k
-knn open pod -rm300
-injector - rm550
-triniti clutch 8.5" -rm1200
now still thinking wanna go for turbo or not..... wanna kawin this year... huhuhuuhu

Waja manual they didn't update, not enough time maybe.

nan,

wah thnx for the explanation...but it look like a big modifications...n plenty things to do...
eujin...u in kl today??humm im ok..tonite or sunday...no probs...today trip postpone bos sick  ...next week will went to A.star...soo anybody interested to join n meet up?? ...