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Nokia Unannounced Nokia 5730 XM, with sliding QWERTY

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post Mar 26 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(123joe @ Mar 25 2009, 10:28 PM)
im stl waiting 4 the 'finger-sensitive' touch screen frm nokia.
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Need 2 wait 4 how long oh ? unsure.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 25 2009, 10:18 PM)
Is that possible @ 700 ?  unsure.gif
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bila rege dah turun dlm berbulan bulan la ohmy.gif
maybe price around n78 la. RM890 like dat.
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 25 2009, 10:11 PM)
Then I sure will go for 5800 lo...Since this phone has no touch screen  wub.gif
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it doesnt mean that touch screen is better than normal physical buttons. unless you're talking about iphone, now that is worth mentioning as a touch screen phone.


Added on March 26, 2009, 9:22 pm
QUOTE(123joe @ Mar 25 2009, 10:28 PM)
im stl waiting 4 the 'finger-sensitive' touch screen frm nokia.
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u mean like iphone right?

yeah, it would be a real treat for nokia fans to have a touchscreen phone like that. a touchscreen phone with a screen that is damn hard to scratch like the iphone.

but that would increase production costs and it could be more expensive than an iphone.

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post Mar 30 2009, 12:50 AM

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i like the niceee keyboard. sweet! biggrin.gif
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The keyboard looks a bit fragile from the picture. have to feel it myself to determine whether it is durable or not.
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post Mar 30 2009, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 26 2009, 09:20 PM)
it doesnt mean that touch screen is better than normal physical buttons. unless you're talking about iphone, now that is worth mentioning as a touch screen phone.


Added on March 26, 2009, 9:22 pm

u mean like iphone right?

yeah, it would be a real treat for nokia fans to have a touchscreen phone like that. a touchscreen phone with a screen that is damn hard to scratch like the iphone.

but that would increase production costs and it could be more expensive than an iphone.
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Also you can't use gloves or anything that covers the skin of your fingers to operate the phone.
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post Mar 30 2009, 03:35 PM

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u mean to operate the iphone right?

if for 5800's touchscreen? can use gloves or not?
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Yes with the 5800 you can use anything.

The Iphone's touchscreen uses a technology called capacitive touchscreen. The screen will have a metallic layer that acts as a capacitor(hence the name). When your finger touches it, it draws a bit of current off it. The computer then calculates the coordinates where the change in capacitance is.

So you see, only the skin or in theory anything conductive(since I haven't tried it with anything other than my finger) can register an input.

The 5800 uses resistive touchscreen, where two layers(which has different voltages between them with an insulating space in between the two) when pressed together, they touch and registers as an input and the computer calculates where the presure is applied.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 30 2009, 03:43 PM)
Yes with the 5800 you can use anything.

The Iphone's touchscreen uses a technology called capacitive touchscreen. The screen will have a metallic layer that acts as a capacitor(hence the name). When your finger touches it, it draws a bit of current off it. The computer then calculates the coordinates where the change in capacitance is.

So you see, only the skin or in theory anything conductive(since I haven't tried it with anything other than my finger) materials can register an input.
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5800 XM is a bit responsive touch screen..haha good nod.gif
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As a result of the technology, Iphone's touchscreen is more resilient, has a faster response and accuracy and clearer screen. However it is more expensive and has a limited touch input.

Nokia, trying to be user friendly for everyone, probably stayed away from this tech and went for resistive to satisfy pretty much the majority of consumers. Low cost and many input methods to suit everyone.

It's only a matter of time before the resistive will be as accurate and resposive as the capacitive, even sporting multitouch with better materials and software, who knows.....

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post Mar 30 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(kae7 @ Mar 30 2009, 03:46 PM)
5800 XM is a bit responsive touch screen..haha good nod.gif
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Wrong wrong man.. Didn't you read tunertoobe explaination spammer? goodness man read 1st then type doh.gif

Iphone has a better touchscreen in terms of responsiveness and accuracy.


Added on March 30, 2009, 4:03 pm
QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 30 2009, 03:43 PM)
Yes with the 5800 you can use anything.

The Iphone's touchscreen uses a technology called capacitive touchscreen. The screen will have a metallic layer that acts as a capacitor(hence the name). When your finger touches it, it draws a bit of current off it. The computer then calculates the coordinates where the change in capacitance is.

So you see, only the skin or in theory anything conductive(since I haven't tried it with anything other than my finger) can register an input.

The 5800 uses resistive touchscreen, where two layers(which has different voltages between them with an insulating space in between the two) when pressed together, they touch and registers as an input and the computer calculates where the presure is applied.
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Very good and very understandable explaination. thumbup.gif

What makes the iphone's screen tough? is it a glass in front of the touch screen or what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgVfcj41uM

if somebody does that to a 5800, bye2 screen.. if only newer nokia models could implement this feature

This post has been edited by alpha_company: Mar 30 2009, 04:03 PM
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why so funny?? need so many type of keypad for what? just for the propose of surfing the net faster?? hmmm.. izzit touch screen??
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QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Mar 30 2009, 04:48 PM)
why so funny?? need so many type of keypad for what? just for the propose of surfing the net faster?? hmmm.. izzit touch screen??
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U mean Nokia 5730 ?
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post Apr 7 2009, 10:12 AM

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n series got n97 for qwerty... so i think nokia wants XpressMusic to have a qwerty model too..
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this should solve the problems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3X5y-ajtc&feature=related
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post Apr 7 2009, 11:46 PM

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yup..that solved it allright
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Review for this phone is out already at Mobile Review.

Mobile Review 5730

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post Apr 26 2009, 01:37 PM

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Hey, how much do u guys predict this phone will be when it first release in Malaysia?? Rm1000?? or juz below RM2000 but over Rm1500??
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hope it's cheaper than the overprice E75...smile.gif
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i guess this phone will be around RM 1500

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