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Hardware The Best Compatible RAM for Macbook, upgrade to 4G RAM

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davidmak
post Oct 23 2009, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(lawl @ Oct 23 2009, 01:10 PM)
Usually u guys upgrade ram by urself or ask the shop technician upgrade?
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Just do it yourself. Its really not that hard. Upgrading the memory is by far the easiest in that you don't need a lot of different tools to open up the casing. You just need a very tiny Philips (+) screwdriver and you're good to go. Upgrading the HDD however requires the Torx T6 driver which is not as common. You can get the whole set from Lowyat (Viewnet store) for RM25. You'll get the whole 31 piece of uncommon screw heads used by the electronic industry.

If you need to have pictures for guidance, try to google IFIXIT. They have teardowns of every Apple product released. Follow their teardown procedures to upgrade the RAM/HDD.

By the way, I upgraded my DDR3 modules with 2GB 1066MHz Corsairs for RM140 a pop. Cheap and usable. No problems. Snow Leopard seems to be smoother with 4GB.
davidmak
post Oct 24 2009, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Oct 23 2009, 10:35 PM)
i noticed they just went up. at my area at least.

a 2GB DDR3 SODIMM was about rm120+ before. now i cant find em under rm150 tongue.gif


Added on October 24, 2009, 12:47 amwhat's the best way to get crucial ddr3 sodimms?
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Oooh... I didn't track the memory prices cause the last time I updated was early this year. I remember the 2GB modules were around a little over RM100. You can get it for RM140 from Cycom, Lowyat Plaza.

Crucial? Online order?
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post Oct 26 2009, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(dr.is @ Oct 26 2009, 05:10 AM)
thanks mate .. but just dont know what is the source for the machine becoming "hang" sometimes when i am doing multiple tasking .. sad.gif
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It depends what is that 'hang'. If its a total screen freeze with no way to recover other than to force OFF the computer then it could be RAM due to incompatibility or a faulty module. Guess you would have to keep changing modules until you find one that works.
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post Oct 26 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Oct 26 2009, 08:38 AM)
if often get beachball? likely bcuz of what? hdd?
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Most like it is HDD. Check your software update records or whether you have installed the EFI v1.7 firmware. We have a thread discussing this. Apparently the update causes the HDD to not respond. Assuming you're using one of the new MBPs.

QUOTE(dr.is @ Oct 26 2009, 04:20 PM)
thanks again david,

i guess it was a totally screen freeze ( as the picture i attached in this post ), again, may I know how to change the modules? and where is the module located?

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If you're using the new MBP, the modules are located underneath of the laptop and at the center. You will need to remove all 10 screws (+, Philips) before lifting the bottom aluminum panel. The modules are on top of each other. Current Intel Macs run on dual channel memory controllers so each slot represents one of the 2 channels.

Diagnosing memory module problems are a little troublesome in that you need to try all sorts of configurations. It would help if you have spare DDR3 modules lying around. You can first swap locations for the current modules. See if it helps. As a general rule, follow the following guidelines:

1. Ensure you populate each of the slots to take advantage of dual channel memory addressing (performance related).
2. Ensure you populate each of the slots with the same type of RAM (timing, bus speed, etc) - preferably from the same manufacturer.
3. Ensure you populate each of the slots with the same capacity of RAM (optional).

You can always use different capacity (for example 1GB+2GB) provided number 2 is satisfied. In this case, the first 1GB from each module will be addressed in dual channel while the remaining 1GB will be addressed in single channel. You will suffer some performance degradation but it shouldn't affect stability.

It would be wise to also consider that kernel panics may not necessarily be a memory problem. It could be one of your software applications or drivers. Also, I don't mean to insult but just double check that DDR3 is installed cause DDR2 is awfully similar. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Jcvendetta @ Oct 26 2009, 04:37 PM)
I want to ask, my macbook pro now have 2x2gb ram. if i remove 1 stick of ram ( meaning only got 1 x 2 gb ram inside) , the macbook wont boot up. i wanna downgrade ram but with 1 stick of ram the macbook cant bootup issit?
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I think it should work. This is not like Rambus RDRAM where you need a dummy module to be inserted. Its not a serial thing. You can run off independent channels. Are you sure the slot is not damaged?

Or am I missing something? I'm new to DDR3 but I expect them to be the same as DDR2.
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post Oct 26 2009, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(dr.is @ Oct 26 2009, 06:27 PM)
Thanks David,

I am using Macbook 13" 2.4 GHz (2008), I still have the original 2G RAM module with me. Maybe I should try replacing them back, means downgrade from 4G to 2G, to see whether it get back the stability or not. Hope this will help. ^^
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OK the original unibody 13" isn't so different from the newer MBPs. Their location is the same. You should check out ifixit.com and check their teardowns for procedures. I think the original unibody doesn't require removing the bottom panel right? Check your manual.
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(preducer @ Oct 28 2009, 08:05 AM)
find ram that is cheap and confirmed working.. that is all u need.
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Yeah you're right. Thats what I did for mine. Went to Lowyat Plaza and find the cheapest RAM. Ended up with a pair of Corsair 2GB DDR3 for RM140 a pop. Everyone was selling from RM145-155.
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post Oct 29 2009, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Oct 29 2009, 03:28 AM)
davidmak, you recommend Corsair to 2GBx2 DDR3 RAM to work on the MBP 13"?

I need to purchase RAMs, but not sure which ones to get. Either Apple approved

RAMs, or value RAMs, that are known to work efficiently with  macbook pros.
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Yes, I recommend Corsair because I have been using them for 2 weeks now. No issues at all. For many times, I have tested quick boot up, reboots, damn fast sleep, shut down and wake... no problem at all. It just works. Just fill it up to 4GB total and you're good to go until next year. Then 4GB modules will be available and time to go 8GB total brows.gif

But seriously, 4GB will be enough for the entire lifetime of the machine. 4GB is aplenty for heavies like video edit, photo edit, etc.
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post Oct 30 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Oct 29 2009, 04:56 PM)
I reckon i need to wait up until year end to purchase my 4GB Rams. I have

other hobbies i need to fund sad.gif The downside of being a gamer, and a computer

enthusiast.
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Well no worries, the RAM can wait. Its not like you're severely handicapped with 2GB of RAM. The OS still flies. When times are right, then you upgrade. You'll appreciate the increase in performance after some months of owning it.
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post Oct 31 2009, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 30 2009, 08:38 PM)
macbook unibody 13" can use up to 4GB only eh??

need to upgrade ram too.. now 2GB not enough..

so was thinking to get 2GB x 2 .. anybody recon me seller in lowyat.net that selling ram for mac?
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According to the manual, MBP13 can address up to 8GB of RAM with 4GB modules on each slot. The MBP13 has 2 physical slots. But since 4GB modules does not exist at the moment (at least in major stores), we're pretty much capped at 4GB total (2GB modules on each slot). If you're in KL, 2GB modules are relatively easy to purchase at LowYat Plaza.

QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Oct 30 2009, 10:27 PM)
im not familiar with OWC actually. what chips are they using?

is it better to get 2x2gb, or 4gb+2gb? (my max is 6gb)
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I would generally advise people to keep their memory channels (or physical memory slot) to be symmetrical. Meaning the slots are populated of the same type, timing, brand, capacity of module. However, this doesn't mean you can't run 1GB+2GB or 4GB+2GB or whatever combination as long as they are of the same type (DDR3).

If you go with 4GB+2GB, only the first 2GB from each channel (first 4GB total) will be addressed in dual channel while the remaining 2GB from the 4GB module will be addressed in single channel configuration. Memory timings, accesses and performance will be slightly degraded. Then again, if the machine aren't running memory intensive applications like games, etc.. it doesn't really matter.

 

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