I don't have poodle, both also maltese autumn is the youngest and smallest while jasmine is the opposite (slightly bigger and older )
I thought go travel bring pads more easier than bring the tray? xD If pad, we only need to bring few disposable pad and put at any places mah easy to move also... if tray need to put at corner or take more space.. no?

If you have more spaces, try to get at least 4pcs of playpen for her. Put the cage inside the pen and pad at any corner u like inside the pen. Like this she will have more spaces to free roam but still inside play pen range and it could help you pad trained her also since she can roam freely rather than being locked inside the cage. I never cage autumn and only confined her inside her 6pcs pen and not long ago I bought an IRIS brand of cage for them as their house, place for them to sleep. But this cage the bottom is a smooth floor not like those cage tray so I consider it as not a cage but a house =p

Anyhoo, try to go for washable pad instead of disposable if want/can. Washable pad absorb the pee and the smell better than disposable. In my case, I prefer washable since I got 2 dogs (if use disposable type, they each pee 1 time need to change d xD) and its really lessen my work load. With this I only need to change it every 2 or 3 days depends on how dirty the pad is but if use disposable I need to change at least 2 or 3 per day

btw, how you know she hold her bladder?

Maybe the picture you saw is and old picture? Last time Jasmine had poodle cut but now both are growing long coat, will update their new picture after shower later

You use hand or washing machine to wash the washable pad? I washed by hands but sometimes use washing machines if I lazy xD but after wash n dry it there's no more pee or poo smell on the pad... If you washed already but still have smell means you washed not thoroughly As for training spray, I have no comment cuz I never use it before, if your friend said its effective maybe you can try to use it to train weeboo?


There's nothing wrong Snowy She hold her bladder and never make any mess inside her cage is because she know its her 'home' and she doesn't want to dirty it. Snowy behave similarly with autumn, as autumn will never pee in the cage that I bought for her even when I locked her inside when I'm out and scared she climb out from her pen. She will wait till I came back and let her out only she did her business on her pad. If I bring her out for a nite stay and she couldn't find her pad, she will hold her bladder until she cannot tahan d only cries for help to me but sometimes when I'm too busy or distracted I might not get her meaning (cuz she cries/whine too much even there's nothing xD) then she will pee in front of me letting me know she couldnt hold on any longer LOL

Even when she's at home and the pad are dirty, she will pee at the corner or spot that is still clean but hold one of her leg to make sure she doesn't step on any pee or poo at first I thought why she pee like male dog but after few cases I finally realize that she did that to prevent her to step on the pee or poo

Ohh... I never use Dettol to wash. Most of the time I will soak the pad into a pail of water for a while then take out use use detergent to brush it off both side (top n bottom) then soak it again into water and rinse thoroughly then dry it off. Never got any pee smell left but mostly is detergent smell xD

You could try the training spray thou, if its work well it would be good for both of you

as for eating poo, there's many reason that could intrigue the behavior, some said its because of the food they ate that make it hard to digest and when they poo, instead of poo smell sometimes they can still smell the food smell and thought it was their food thus they ate it back. Other sources said that when they're left too long they will feel bored and nothing to do thus the poo eating behavior come to them. What food you're feeding her now? it she still eating her poo maybe you want to consider changing her diet to other brands? Sometimes changing brand doesn't mean ur dog will stop eating her poo 100% but it 'might' help in some cases thou

Cant recommend much cuz sometimes it does great for my kids but not for others, but I can tell you good brands that is recommended by others and those that I've personally tried myself are Go! (good and expensive but no small bites), artemis small breed puppy/adult (price n result are okay with me but heard that its going to stop production soon), fish4dogs (promo pack cheaper than individual pack, so far so good). Others brands from uk or us called 'wellness' also have many good n bad feedback but I never tried it personally. Currently I'm still feeding them mixture of artemis n fish4dogs and once it finish I'm gonna switch back to usual feeding morning kibble nite barf. Today went plc ikano bought the promo pack 2 cod fish and 2 salmon small bites for them to stock up in-case I no more barf or no time to feed them Now I'm searching for Royal Canin Maltese 24 but no luck up to now and heard from my friend 3 more months only got stock come in to my hometown so now I'm slowly wait for it

As for bad breath, you can either give her some raw hide to chew or start to brush her teeth at least 2-3 times a week. Last time I forgot to brush her teeth so now she doesnt like if i open her mouth to brush but sometimes I will use wet towel to brush it lightly thou most of the time I gave them raw hide to chew them self





You do basic or full groom? I mean both do full groom and they charge you RM 120 per dog? or RM 120 for both?
I long time never went to pets icon d, currently went to doggie doge near my house, nice service and cheaper price too
I realize groomers will let their students to handle our dogs and only help to 'safe' them when our dogs looks......... this is y I keep the coat long and only send for basic or full groom when I want to trim some and to make sure they doesn't let NEW student to handle my dogs, old students or those with experiences is okay with me as long as my dog doesnt turn into

This post has been edited by muchan86: Jul 16 2011, 09:16 PM

Your pita pata too many la xD
I'm now scared to try new groomers ever since autumn has a bad experience with new groomers and I don't even know who and where they're located.
She is now scared of water and hate grooming and bite me once just few days she came back from grooming while I groomed her face. Until now she will scream/shout whenever it's shower time

If I know who the person groomed her last time sure gonna complaint and banned it from my grooming list -.-""
Now I bring them to Doggie Doge SS 15, so far so good bring Jasmine for both basic n full groom and satisfy with their job while autumn went there once for basic only and she came back crying for help whenever she saw groomers.. But I like this groomer, cheap and ok for me

They charge both A&J with same price. RM 40 for basic and RM 60 for full groom
Not sure if they use any treatment but whenever I sent them for grooming, the smell with stay put for a week or more and the coat looks so white for weeks even when I shower them when its more than a week after grooming. I'm keeping autumn hair long cuz her coat now is very smooth and silky and nicer compare to her previous coat. Hopefully this time I success in keeping her coat long >< but thinking to trim the fur under her mouth and of course keep her top knot. While for Jasmine I her coat now is really nice and silky type and I want to keep the coat long but trim the face only since she doesn't like to tie hair butttttt her coat is too thick and its really took much time just to dry it off... now I'm thinking if I should keep her in short cut or long coat... if only I have those dryer like those groomers use maybe I know what I want to choose lol

Oh no... please don't starve/limit her food intake just because you want her to be mini ><
Puppies need to eat more because they still puppy and they need all those protein for their growth. If you limit their food intake, yes she will looks mini BUT she might not look so healthy or maybe you could feel her looks skinny if you try to limit her into 1.5kg while she's supposed to weight around 2kg+ (just for example) and honestly, the smaller the dog is its really hard to take care.

Autumn supposed to weight 1.6 -1.8kg and she's one big eater. For her case I did limit her food intake since puppy (I feed hear barf) because no matter how much I gave her she will still continue to eat nonstop and this is not good either. Since I fed her barf I limit her food intake by calculating 3-4% from her current weight and when she turn adult I realize her her proportional weight is less than 2kg. But now she's more than 2 kg as I started feeding her kibbles due to no time to make barf for her and I thought want to pump her to became 2kg but instead she became too fat now

Anyho, please dont limit her food intake and feed too much also not a good idea. You should try to give her as much as you think it would do good to your puppy


Actually I believe RC is not bad but dunno why in Malaysia people seems to call it 'not-so-good' brand
My friends at hometown most of them feed their kids with RC for certain breeds, i.e shih tzu, pom etc. I'm now actually looking for Royal Canin Maltese 34. I've read so many feedback about it for maltese but cant seem to find it here...


@Wishan~~~~ have you asked your supplier bout RC?

If I go Singapore buy RC very expensive xD Need to count the expense+++ Maybe I continue my current food first hehe


What RC you're feeding them? If not mistaken beet pulp one of this ingredient that cause tear stain
I've never personally fed RC to my dog before, but most of my friend did fed RC to their dogs and so far so good from their feedback. I got a friend who fed RC Maltese to her maltese since puppy but when she moved to penang, she couldn't find any RC for her maltese. Other reason she chose RC is because of its small size because her 2nd maltese is too small and RC do good with its small size kibbles. I did search for some feedback online and it seems that some said it do good for its shinning and silky coat so I'm thinking to try 1 pack if I can get it myself. Maybe I'll try it myself to see the result If its do good on my malts might continue or if its doesnt then I switch back to my current food


@loong1111 : Nope, I seldom fed kibbles so only tried few brands only

@tjaime1984 : Never tried all those brands also xD The one that I tried before and did great for my kids is what I'd mention before



This post has been edited by muchan86: Jul 21 2011, 07:37 PM

First I'll do a soft roar to let them know that I'm in charge now!



Second, Since I'm now stand at the higher 'rank' its okay to make this expression to those of lower ranks



Third, If anyone oppose me being the boss, all I need to do is gave them another big roar!



and of course, at the end of the day I need to show them my prettiest pose to ensure them the tittle I held now really suit me!

Kinzonu had some puppies at the moment if not mistaken. You could try to contact him and maybe can go view the pups your self if you really interested. His price depends on the quality of the pups and he too imported his malt from Taiwan. You contact both and see which you interested with

Why so quiet? xD

*Spam A&J new pic*

Just brought them to grooming few days back

Thanks thanks~!

Where's Charlie and Lola photo?

It might true if you're talking about poodle breed but in my experience never ever SHAVE bald a maltese coat! Due to some accident 1 of my malt got shaved and her new coat is not straight as before. In fact, after shaved her coat became so curly and a bit rough.... then few months back I shaved her again due to skin problem (which I don't want to shave at first but since the coat is getting...... due to the 1st incident I decided to shave it again to see if there's any different from the previous shaved) and I start giving her skin and coat supplement to see if I can save her coat. Now the new coat is not as rough as before but still very curly. So my advice is, if you want to cut it short just cut it short enough as puppy cut but don't shaved it bald.

Same like autumn last time
now got improvement d... everytime I wanna pluck her ear fur I will prepare some treats for her xD so far the result is good. I did the same thing when I shower her also since she became scared of water and will shout nonstop whole time until I finish shower her n so noisy with treats now she do fine also hahah I guess treats is essential to train autumn LOL

btw weebo is a girl


I wanna bring my girls out le... they're so bored and lack of exercise ><

actually I seldom gave them treats already but due to autumn's case I try to find good treats and the treats I'm using right now is the Healthy Omega Treats made from duck meat layered with cod fish & sweet potato. The treats came in square size so I cut it into small pieces, when its shower time and if she tries to shout I just gave her 1 pieces if no shout I dont give lo.

Ya, give while bathing her, not messy la since the treats in a meat-alike form . If you want, try get the healthy treats cuz if they ate much also no problem but normal treats I scared later ate treats too much dun want eat their own food liao. So far my kids no problem and I always try to look for those healthy treats haha

as for Bubble, when you got the treats ready, you try to touch her ear see if she have the same reaction as when you flip the ear. Whether it has or no reaction when you just touching the ear you gave her some treats to let her think that touching ears =treats. Then only you start flipping it slowly + give treats or while she was eating the treats you could flip her ear slowly see if she have the same reaction or not.

Hopefully it can help. Last time I really cannot touch autumn's hear at all. Once I success in flipping her ear, she will struggle struggle and struggle until I tired. Clipping nails also a big problem with her last time, until I need to hold her to not struggling and Ying help me cut her nails but even when the nail cutter havent touch her nails she already shout so loud LOL so I guess anything that I need to know to handle a 'problematic' dog I learn all from my girl

You can bring her out actually if you found those pet friendly places... But for me, I love to bring them out if I can but I will prevent them to step on the grass area to prevent any ticks. Normally I will spray frontline to their coat before bring them out like in public like park, and shower them after come back and spray another front line for prevention



LOL her AnJ is Alvin and Junnie but my A&J is Autumn & Jasmine mahhhhh and mine is not for sale

Actually if she doesn't let you pluck her ear fur sending her to grooming is a good choice I think. Last time I also sent her to grooming whenever its time to pluck her ear fur and she came back find. I guess groomers sure have their own way to make the dogs allow them to touch their sensitive area. Only starting from last year I seldom sent my girls to grooming esp autumn and Jasmine only sent for full groom few months time when I think her coat is too long for me to handle.

As for treats, even if I dont want to give them treats I have no choice. With treats I can train autumn to let/allow me to touch all her sensitive part. Thats y I go for those healthy treats since no matter what I need treats to lure autumn. But sometimes I will boiled chicken meat as treats maybe you could substitute it with chicken meat instead of treats.

What you mean "since all hair occupied"? or you mean 'hand' occupied? What I did is after I pluck one time I gave her treats to calm her down and second then third. If she no longer move around and let me pluck I just continue plucking the ear hair until she throw her tantrum again only gave her the treats

I dont think anyone will like the 'strong chemical' smell LOL I too dont like the smell but if its for their own good its okay with me since I'm not going to smell it every day. I used to apply frontline spot on for them before bring them out to the park but the price is much more expensive compare to the spray type. So what I did is I only spray frontline to their body when I bring them out to the park and shower them when I came back. I always shower them if I let them out for a walk on the park so the smell doesnt bother me much since they're going to shower anyway


In my case, since I know how to do all the basic stuff why need to send them go grooming? If can did myself I can save cost n money + I can learn my own experience. I'll start to groom Jasmine my self soon once I get my scissors hihihi

I'm not sure why but I did heard some groomers are telling their customer to shave bald the dog either poodle or maltese owner and I found it funny when I listened to them. Reason being, I had this groomers which I often went to ever since I got autumn and the owner never ask me to shave the coat. She even asked me twice to make sure I'm not going to regret cutting the coat short when my malt was having long coat last time. She always objected when I want to shave bald my maltese when I thought the idea of new growing coat might be better than the current 1 and I really appreciate her thou I did shaved my malt but due to skin prob. If not I wont shave her at all



Wi shan, this friday what time you close shop? free after closing?

want go DPC then dinner together? but later fetch me back can?
If both of u are okay, I confirm with you again after I confirm that I'm free this friday