hehe. melbourne is so easy. everything runs in grids. so once you look at the map its easy to know where you going. trams usually also drive in grids in the city. its only when you leave th CBD that it gets complicated.

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Added on January 26, 2009, 3:28 pmbuy a good map. and you got all the info you need. tram/train/bus routes and all. banks are everywhere. just walk in and ask what they need. usually its address, COE, passport. or something like that.

This post has been edited by panda-man: Jan 26 2009, 03:28 PM

Excatly guys, Unis' are now spreading around suburban areas, not only concertrating in Melbourne city anymore.
We are seriously looking for people who has the ability to advice students on where and how to look for accommodations. Asking a new students to come to Melbourne and just get a good map isn't good enough. Believe it or not, more students will end up coming to Australia with their parents. Not every one are like you (Sesshoumaru) ok? If you are really depends on just a good map and yourself.
And please be remembered that we have no right to give judgement onthers' ability, without know their background and personal exposure.
No free lunch but if you can realy offer help, i believe my friends are happy to pay for basic. Maybe half of the Melbourne International Services' Charge. Let me know. But I'm not trying to start a personal debate here, only reply please if you have a serious action plan to help.

I believe in the adage of "you're an adult, sort it out". When asked by my parents what was my plan when i arrived in Aus, i simply said, "i'll figure it out when i get there". Plus i didn't even buy a map, all i got was some shitty bus route map of Brisbane and the rest was just up to imagination. I have never regretted the choice i made, sure it's hard, but it does teach you the fundementals early on. And no the directions on aussie signs are pretty much clear as long as you have a decent command of english, it's not even hard lah.

And yes, alot of us students do actually accomodate juniors temporarily while they're looking around, they pay their share of rates and i'm happy and of course, don't bloody masturbate in my bed, that's for me to do . The only opinion i'm offering is that people should learn to go on their own, that's why you come out this far, to get an education and not necessarily a totally academic one at that. Best advice i can give potential students is to roll with the punches, and take everything as a learning experience.

Come to think of it, it was all in good fun i swear

yeah thats true. if you never been overseas by yourself you are gonna be pretty stressed out. especially cause some people might not even understand the accent.

Cool man. That's very brave of you. Assie Style: Do the crazy thing and point the middle finger at the police car passes by. It's all coming down to a conclusion, we run out of bed in Melbourne. If you own a spare one, offer it. Otherwise, just talk right?

Why did you open a new account and use a different identity? I think you said that "This would be my last post about my service here" before and finally I realized the implicit meaning there. Does it mean that you are not gonna talking about such crap services from the perspective of a businessman and instead pretend to be a student and promote it again??

You have your freedom to support such services and encourage others to join, but I will still stand firmly on my side, my advice to every student going to study in Australia is DEFINITELY NOT to receive such services.

If anyone who finds that such services save you a lot of time and effort and you would like to avoid all those annoying processes of finding accommodation, opening bank account, exploring the surroundings itself etc., then I would say u better not studying overseas. Studying overseas is an invaluable experience and everyone studying abroad should not only aim for gaining a degree, but must learn some living skills and be independent. Come on, a uni student should be able to do all those stuff.

Just for your reference, I have never left my home on myself before arriving in Australia. I came to Melbourne alone and had nobody here but still be able to cope all those stuff. Again and again, my advice is NOT give a try to those services.

Finally been caught have 2 accounts. Hahaha.

The homestay fee 250 is at Burwood. Anyway, most of my friends only pay 225.

I know some students from Melbourne University or RMIT who stay homestay also pay about this amount or 270 per week. If you don't believe you can check it or ask your university.

You also can google it homestay in melbourne, there are some many agents can help you up. Anyway, I still believe university rather than agencies.

Happy Chinese New Year. Gong Xi Fat Chai.

I just came back from China Town, Melbourne and feel CNY environment. Hahaha

Haha..what a pity. Today is my first day come across this site. Umm..don't think this site operator will allow me to have two accounts. Anyways, did you apply your student visa yourself? Why not? Don't tell me you do. Do you know you can simply apply it online yourself? Well, you always need services from others if you are not familiar.
You sound really naive and get angry easily. Do you know you commet will potentially get others into trouble. Have you analyse the current rooms availability in Melbourne and the rate? Well, keep your anger to yourself and don't trust all the 'bloody agencies' around you. I think the next things you want to do is to encourage everyone to store their money at home in stead of bank, because the bank is going to earn from you right. HoHo.
Thanks TSM, homestay fee at burwood for 250 sound expensive, AUD 220 - 225 sound reasonable. Your friends didn't go thru Uni right?
However, my friends just need a temporary place to stay for a while until they can find a place to stay longer. Anybody have any spare rooms please announce.

to Mr oceanblue123 and his other account

1st of all, I'm a new student going to Melbourne this coming february, i found tht ur service is juz spoonfeeding new students like me. I did my visa everything myself, and i didnt even go find any education agents like IDP or ASA, I look up everything online, through lowyat forum and google of course.

2nd, its a shame to hear tht u went there alone and was a victim by spending time adapting there urself, n u actually find the route in melbourne confusing. I never went there yet, but looking at the maps i dled from major map websites, I think the route there is way much better than the routes in Penang or KL. To me, wut u actually nid are some surviving skills. Maybe u r raised as a kids tht thinks study is the major skill tht is needed to go through different parts of lifes, no it isnt. I'm no scout or ranger, but i learn those skills by mixing wif different ppl. I hav many frens studying in Melbourne, and thus i try to talk to them, getting many valuable infos from them.

3rdly, if i'm correct its hard to get into homestay for ppl above 18 years old, i got tht info from Housing brochure university of Melbourne sent me. If they r wrong, maybe u can rectify them by telling them their mistakes. But in my case, I prefer to look for everything myself, so tht i get to know more ppl. To me, experience is important.

4th, Its too easy to notice tht u r using 2 accounts to promote ur business here, nice try though.

and it's easy to tell who is childish enough here to perceive of creating 2 accounts...Why should I afraid to use my own account to give comments? haha.. I spent wholeday out to visit my relatives, sold my stuffs *my buyer, a lowyat forumer, can become my time witness*n juz got back home
You guys are most welcomed to check the IP where these 2 accounts logged on. Thanks

My purpose to post here is to just acknowledge the service is available, make explanations and I don't mean to take this matter into a war-zone.. everyone has their own perspective, so I couldn't say I'm right or you're wrong. But frankly speaking, appreaciate to those who has given me positive feedback as to our price and our services provided in a mature and nice way thanks! To those who has commented emotionally and immaturely, there's nothing I can say

Goodday to you all as I'm enjoying my CNY holidays, hope you guyz are the same too

cheers!

This post has been edited by [="@k£LwIN@"=]: Jan 27 2009, 03:26 AM

1) If anyone has firm evidence that [="@k£LwIN@"=] and oceanblue123 are the same person, please go to the Main Site/Forum Feedback and Helpdesk and make a report, and let the moderators deal with it. There is no point mudslinging here.

That said, it is very suspicious that a newly registered member comes up with full praise for the services offered by [="@k£LwIN@"=].

2)If there is ever the need for proof of Malaysian spoon-feeding, it is clear that there are no lack of people who will, despite everything else, pay money to be hand-held at every step of the way. It is their choice; no one put a gun to their head.

3) Rule no 5 of the Education Essentials sub-forum says "Strictly no commercial advertisement here in Education Essentials." I would think that includes advertising of ANY kind of service, be it teaching or orientation.

4) I believe that it is the job of the universities International Student Services to orientate your view, give you information about public transport, help with bank accounts, TFN's, and put you up in temporary accomodation. That's what QUT did for me. 3 hours after I landed I was trying to find my bus.

And as I said in the previous thread, nothing orientates a person in any place with a road map ($20 for a simply basic one: I'd sell my Brisbane one for $10 if anyone is still interested), and having to find accommodation.

5)It doesn't matter if the city is in a grid, round, oval, looping like Putrajaya/Canberra, you will be lost in ANY new place you go. Just take it as life: I get lost when I go to Penang, and I can assure you many people here don't know where Limbang is, never mind getting around the small town.

6) Let me get this straight oceanblue123: you are quite happy sharing a place with a complete stranger, sharing his room/bed, but you feel insecure when navigating around the streets of Melbourne. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather pay for a room in a backpackers. I wouldn't share a room with ANYONE, especially when one of them in this forum has a gun. Literary.


Stress free? I visited 15 places, and all 15 turned me down when I was looking for a place. Which is why, if possible, I recommend people to try and find a place in the university dorms or student catered accommodation like UniLodge.

This post has been edited by haya: Jan 27 2009, 06:55 AM

Almost every Malaysian applies student visa online by himself/herself, and I think almost everyone applying will know that. Who bothers run all the way down to the embassy to apply and keep waiting for ages?? Do you find that this is something people rarely know?? It's ridiculous I find out his statement. Or maybe I misunderstanding what you mean?

"potentially get others into trouble"??
I think you repeated the same phrase or something like that a few times before. Everyone landing on a new place will definitely having difficulties acclimatizing to the environment as he/she knows little thing about the new place, like looking for accommodation, how public transport works, opening bank account, applying for broadband & mobile phone etc. But this does not mean that people who are having troubles have to seek help from those money-oriented services. As I repeat again, if somebody can't cope with those difficulties, they are not suitable for studying overseas and should not think of it at all.

This post has been edited by alwayshappy: Jan 27 2009, 09:38 AM

What's the point for having two accounts as you just found out the site for the very day ? Everyone knows that we can apply online and please don't make it as you're the only one who knows it all . To start off , I think that renting a room is expensive in everywhere especially if its near a school . Be it in Melbourne or Sydney or Perth . I don't know what the agencies did to you but it won't happen to everyone AND just because you can't find a room doesn't mean the other can't . And please remember that this thread doesn't allow any ''ShortForm'' ... Check through your post and you will know what I'm talking about .

Errr ... just wondering, Is photostatting allowed in Melbourne?

would be worth it if you invest into the 3-in-1 printer for abit of photostating.

Scan is free in my university. Printing is 8 or 9 cent per page or double side 7 or 8 cent.

No one will catch you as long as you don't sell photocopy books to others

Icic. Cause in Taylor's now, i bring photocopied notes to class get scold by lecturer, consider illegal

I scare in RMIT if i photocopied a few pages from reference book will get scold also Especially tutorial time, i really need them.

This post has been edited by booby: Jan 27 2009, 01:32 PM

Commercial photocopier will not allow photocopy for the whole book. They set a certain limit, like 50 pages.

In uni no one cares about what books you use or maybe you can separate the 'books' into several booklets by chapters.

No more will care it.
Don't bind them together cause it increases the weight. bring paper separately to class. It reduces your burden. Hahaha

Technically no. Anything more than a chapter is considered as copyright infringement....

Then again, if you don't get caught no one can accuse you of anything, right? Having said that I don't think you'll want to photocopy an entire textbook anyway, just zap the chapters/pages that you need and condense/summarise the others into your own notes. Making your own notes is much better than cramming and memorising every thing in the textbook.