I know there is much more variety of Red Wine but normally this two are the most popular one.

What do u prefer? Merlot or Shiraz? Cabernet Sauvignon? Pinot Noir?

This post has been edited by adriankhoo153: Mar 3 2010, 10:06 PM

wat difference?

i try Malbec, nice.

south african wine??tried before?
its nice!!esp year 2006

Shiraz too dry for me.

Don't like Shiraz. I prefer Cabernet Sauvignon, Pinot Noir and Merlot as single varietals or in blends in the various Bordeaux blends (Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Cabernet Franc, in varying percentages, depending on the region and winemaker) or Burgundy blends (mostly Pinot Noir).

For lesser known but tasty reds, try Frankovka (Czech), Plavac Mali (Croatia), Lambrusco (Italy), Beaujolais-Villages (France).

You seem to have good taste about wine. How to determine whether that wine good or not?

Pinor Noir is my favorite, very smooth wine. Shiraz is very dry and strong. Cabernet Savignon is like a balance between Pinor Noir and Shiraz, i love it too.

Jacobs Creek is the safe choice if you're looking for reasonable priced wine.

Oxford Landing and Alan Landing is my choice, but I can't seem to find Alan Landing anymore!

I still prefer white wine by the way.

2 ways:

1. Be all snobby and do it the "experts" way >> buy a bunch of wine books, take tasting lessons and buy only the "good" (expensive) stuff.
2. Do it the cheaper way, and taste the wine... if you like it, it's good; if you don't like it, it's bad.

Oklah.. a 3rd way that is somewhat in between:

Buy a decent intro to wine book (I suggest books by Hugh Johnson or Oz Clarke, they are easy to read; maybe also the Wines for Dummies).
Go to a few tastings by local wine shops - normally they open the cheaper stuff; good way to learn what kinds of wine you like.
As you develop your taste, buy a wine guide (my favourite is Hugh Johnson's Pocket Wine Guide - there is one issue every year) and use it to help you pick wines to buy or drink at restaurants. Then as you discover the different grades of wine as marked by the professionals, match that to your own personal tastes so you know what you like. Different people have different tastes.

My favourite winemakers:

France (Bordeaux): Margaux, Lafite-Rothschild, Angelus, Figeac, La Conseillante, Mission-Haut-Brion, Haut-Brion, Pape-Clement, Cos d'Estournel, Pape-Clement, Pichon-Lallande (formerly known as Pichon-Longueville Comtesse de Lalande), Leoville-Barton, Pontet-Canet
France (Sauternes): d'Yquem, Suduiraut

USA: Robert Mondavi (especially the Reserves, and Moscato Bianco from La Famiglia du Robert Mondavi), Opus One, Beringer (Stone Cellars Cab Sauv is especially good value; also the White Zinfandel Limited Vineyard Selection), Kendall-Jackson, Stag's Leap, Lamoreaux Landing (Riesling)

NZ: Cloudy Bay (especially Te Koko Sauvignon Blanc, and the Pinor Noir), Oyster Bay

Chile: Errazuriz (Don Maximiamo Founder's Reserve)

Germany: Dr Loosen, Fritz Haag, MonchHof

Hungary: Oresmus (Tokaji Aszu - get 4-6 puttonyos)

Czech: Tanzberg Mikulov

Italy: Bolla (Valpolicella)

Canada: Inniskillin

My recommendation for cheap but good drinks:
Italian wines - Valpolicella, Lambrusco
German wines - stick to Riesling Auslese/Spatlese (sweet) from Fritz Haag, Dr Loosen, Peter Nicolay
Austrian wines - Zweigelt
Czech wines: Frankovka (one of the cheaper varietals), most wines are cheap
Hungarian wines: Kekeporto, Tokaji Aszu (very sweet dessert wine)
French wines:
- Bordeaux (Cab Sauv/Merlot/Cab Franc blend): Pavillon Rouge (Margaux), Alter Ego (Palmer), Clementin (Pape-Clement); wines from Pauillac, St-Emilion, Pomerol, Pessac-Leognan (all sub-regions of Bordeaux)
- Sauternes (very sweet dessert wine): generally very exp, so you can find similar wines from Barsac or Cadillac.
- Burgundy (Pinot Noir): had good Burgundy from Volnay, so that's a good region
- Alsace (Riesling): Trimbach
- Beajoulais-Villages: George de Beouf
US wines: [stick to Robert Mondavi, Beringer, Kendall-Jackson; you can't go wrong with these 3.
- Cabernet Sauvignon: Stone Cellars (Beringer), Robert Mondavi (Napa Valley or Oakville), Kendall-Jackson
- Pinot Noir: Robert Mondavi (Napa Valley)
- White Zinfandel: Beringer Limited Vineyard Selection
- Riesling: Lamoreaux Landing (Finger Lakes, New York)
- Sauvignon Blanc: Robert Mondavi (Napa Valley), Beringer
Chilean wines: try those from Errazuriz, Caliterra,
Argentine wines: try those from Nicholas Catena (price ranges from cheap to very expensive)
NZ wines: Stoneleigh
Australian wines: Hunter's

I dislike: E & J Gallo, Jacob's Creek, most Chardonnay, all Shiraz, Culembourg (South Africa), Lou Lan (China), most Cabernet Sauvignon below 5 years old, US wines from other than California or New York, etc.

As you can see, my tastes differ from others, like Makakeke (who likes Jacob's Creek, which I dislike). There is no one best wine, IMHO. Everyone has different tastes. If you like a wine, don't let others change your mind if they are "snobbish" about it. It's you who are drinking it right?

Also more expensive doesn't mean better. For example, Tanzberg Mikulov had a blush (pink/rose) wine that I liked a lot, many of my friends loved it too when I opened a bottle at a wine party I held. Cost to me was RM20 since I bought it at the vineyard in Moravia directly. Chateau Lynch-Bages is supposed to be one of the top wines in Pauillac (Bordeaux), and price is expensive too. But when I tasted it, I really didn't like it. Neither did my 3 friends.

Agreed with Traveler. Everyone has different cup of tea. Myself i love Jacob's Creek Merlot.

Thanks Traveler for such a great guide.

noone try Montes or Hardy before?

i only knw australian wines..cheap ma

1) penfolds grange
2) penfolds 389
3) henschke (spelling correct?)
4) rosemount estate - balmoral
5) some sweet wine- Noble 1


some french wines la

1) la fitte

2) rothschild

3) la tour

Can anyone recommend me a not too pricey but nice red wine?

Australian Yellowtails are nice.

For asian foods, try Chilean Anakena 2005 Reserve Merlot, 2005 Reserve Carmenere-cabernet Sauvignon.

very deep lor

Vineger + ribena= redwine

This post has been edited by Pain4UrsinZ: Jan 27 2009, 11:19 AM

just got myself jacob creek merlot. doesnt seem to be in traveler's cheap n nice wine list. hope i wont regret.

My friend said that expensive wine taste like a grape juice and the chep one taste like (*&^..is that true?

Shiraz and merlot....what the different?

Shiraz (or Syrah) tend to have blackberry, plum, spicy(not the chili spicy) to name a few, kinda flavor. Its the kind of wine you would pick to go with beef and hearty foods. IMO its a bit darker then merlot and generally would pick it if you are having a meal of sorts.

Shiraz is a much fuller bodied wine with more body or 'thickness' and has more mature taste. Whereas Merlot is a little lighter and not so heavy on the berry and plums, etc.

If you are just starting on reds (from whites) or just starting on wines, merlot would generally be your pick.

Or to make it simple... Merlot would be like beer as Shiraz would be to Vodka.. or absinthe - in terms of thickness and richness on the wine.

This post has been edited by vermins: Jan 27 2009, 07:17 PM

after opening a red wine n cant finish it, how long can be kept?

Personally I like wolfbrass brown label, Black label... but recently I taste ice wine, it was fantastic, but pricely...

<B>By the way, anyone know where can I post the selling list of liquor, as I want to clear out my collection of liquor, since didn't drink much liquor now...</B>

For beginners (usually they prefer sweeter stuff) you could try some sparkling shiraz or maybe a rose they're alot easier to go down.

Sparkling shiraz is alot cheaper than Champagne but still classified under bubblies so the glamour effect is still there for those on a budget

My favourite recommendation for this is are Beringer Stone Cellars wines (Cabernet Sauvignon or Merlot) - go Merlot if you prefer lighter reds, Cab Sauv maybe too heavy for some people. There are also other reds I can recommend but they are not found easily in Malaysia, while Beringer Stone Cellars can be found quite easily.


Not true. If it tastes like grape juice, then it's not wine.

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Added on February 3, 2009, 4:16 pmIf you cork it back, and store in the fridge, generally not more than 3-4 days, a week at most. More than that, I wouldn't drink it as the taste would have changed too much from exposure to air.

Ice wine is indeed great, and too expensive especially here. I remember getting half-bottles of nice sweet Finger Lakes icewines for USD5 at the wineries themselves. But outside that area, all I can find are pricey Canadian icewines.

You can also try prosecco, which is Italian sparkling wine. It's slightly sweeter than champagne/sparkling wine. By the way, Champagne is sparkling wine from the Champagne region of France only. Any other sparkling wine, even if made the same way, is only sparkling wine, not Champagne.


This post has been edited by Traveler: Feb 3 2009, 04:16 PM

Any idea how long could I store red wine (new, unopened?) 20 years?

It really depends on the type of red wine (Bordeaux blend, Cab Sauv, Merlot, Cab Franc, Pinot Noir, Shiraz, etc...) and how it is stored. I am assuming that by storage you mean a proper storage facility that is both temperature and humidity controlled. In our hot and humid weather, this would mean a wine chiller unit. In colder countries, this could be an underground cellar that is about 12-16C.

Some reds don't benefit from any storage at all, and are meant to be drunk young (like Beaujolais Nouveau), while others can be kept for 10-20 years or more. It really depends. If you are talking 10-20 years type, then most likely it will be the Bordeaux or maybe also the Cab Sauv from California. It's best to get a wine guide to see recommendations for your particular wine. I recommend Hugh Johnson's Pocket Wine Guide. It's not so expensive and its small and light to carry around. If your wine isn't listed in it, then it's probably best to follow the generic recommendations for your wine/vintage/region.

Thanks for the tips.

Where to get the Hugh Johnson's Pocket Wine Guide?

I have a bottle of Merlot 2002 California, Cab.Sauv 2002 Australia and Merlot 2007 from Chile, all plan to store it for 21 years from it's vintage year. I put them under the closet which is quite humid, cool but not cold, would this think these wine would still be ok after that years? I'm not planning for investment but instead to give it away as my kids's 21th. birthday present!

The Pocket Wine Guide you can find in MPH or Kinokuniya. Get the 2009 edition. If they are out of stock, you can also try Amazon.com or Amazon.co.uk, with the GBP so weak, it may be cheaper or similar price to have it shipped.

Storing wines at our ambient temperature around 30C is not a good idea. Red wine will tend to mature extra-fast. To properly store wines, you need to keep it around 12-16C. Merlot is not known to age well and should be drunk within 3-7 years in general. So you should drink your 2002 Merlot now, while your 2007 Merlot you can probably drink it within the next 2-3 years. I normally won't drink any Cab Sauv less than 5 years old, as I think they need the time to mature. Your 2002 CS should be drinkable already but I don't know for sure if it will benefit from further aging. You may want to check it with HJ's Pocket Wine Guide. Normally I drink my CS when they are between 5-12 years. I don't keep anything longer than that unless it is a high-end Bordeaux, Sauternes, sweet Riesling, icewine or Tokay.

in this case, how do we know it is a high-end Bordeaux?

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Hugh Johnson's Pocket Wine Book 2009: 32nd Edition - Hugh Johnson
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This post has been edited by scfun: Feb 11 2009, 02:47 PM

1. If its a name I am not familiar with, I normally look it up in HJ's Pocket Wine Book.
2. That's odd, I never had any problems buying from Amazon US and shipping it to Malaysia. Try Amazon UK if you can't get Amazon US to work.

Whatever wine you've got, try to research some information on them online. Sometimes there will be information on that particular year/grape/winery where they will tell you the peak time to drink the wine. Of course due to the weather differences you should minus a few years and then it will be DELICIOUS


For dessert wine, my fav is still De Bortoli's Noble One. Anyone tried it?

This post has been edited by quantum: Feb 12 2009, 10:07 AM

Good point. Some wineries post when-to-drink recommendations for their wines on their website.

My favourite wines for dessert are:

1. Chateau d'Yquem - Tasted the 2004, and this Sauternes is simply WOW! The price is also a WOW... so I could only afford to buy a half-bottle (375ml) of either 2002 or 2004 (which are decent years, but not the greatest) in HK (duty-free), and even that set me back close to RM600-700.
2. Moscato Bianco from La Familiglia du Robert Mondavi (Italian style offering from Robert Mondavi of Napa Valley, USA) - delicious and inexpensive (I paid around USD20 for it at the winery itself), but I don't know if they still make it.
3. A good Tokaji Aszu from Hungary - preferrably 4 or 5 puttonyos (measures of sweetness, the higher the number, the sweeter it is).

Wah you've really tasted alot of different wines eh........I tried quite a few but they're all from my uncles (they can afford it) hahaha....I rarely drink alone because I can't finish it and it's a waste drinking a good bottle alone....none of my friends appreciate wine

anyone know where to buy Moet Chandon champagne?

Heheh, yeah

I've done wine tasting at the wineries in New York's Finger Lakes region, California's Napa Valley and Bordeaux (Left and Right Bank). Lots of good stuff but sometimes some mediocre stuff as well.

Next week am planning to open a bottle of Pavillon Rouge (Chateau Margaux's 2nd wine) 1994 vintage over a nice dinner with business friends. I'm really looking forward to it, since I bought that bottle in 1998 and have kept it in proper storage these past 11 years.

Wow thats nice......I can't wait to start working and get a place of my own so I can start a collection....I'm stuck with my wardrobe for the moment. I've only been to barossa, yarra valley and the granite belt. I kinda miss the free tastings that they used to give some years ago lol!!! Its getting too pricey to taste wine now

When I went tasting in the Finger Lakes region, most wineries had free tastings. One even gave us cheese, crackers and a special dip for the crackers that used their wine as ingredient (it was super yummy - too bad they didn't sell the dip!). One or two charged up to US$3-5 for tastings. One of them had a microbrewery so you also taste their beer.

In Napa Valley, about half charged and half didn't charge. The most expensive tasting was at Opus One, US$28 for a glass. But they really filled that glass to the very top! And considering they sold a bottle for US$125 and Opus One is known as one of the best and most expensive from Napa Valley... not so bad lah the price. The wine is simply superb.

In Bordeaux, most of the top chateaux (the First Growths, Super Seconds), do not charge. Imagine getting a glass of 10 year-old Chateau Lafite (I saw a bottle in KL for sale around RM3.5K) or 20 year-old Chateau Figeac, for FREE! Well don't have to imagine, if you visit, you'll get it. Usually it's the lower-ranked chateaux that charge around EUR5-7 per person for tasting. It's understandable though, considering the top chateaux need only to sell one bottle and they can cover your tasting cost. The lesser chateaux's wines are usually around 10% of the price of the top chateaux and they don't have hordes of people clamouring to buy their wines, so they need to cover their costs. With several exceptions, you can generally taste the difference between the top chateaux and the lesser chateaux. It's quite noticeable, but whether it's worth paying 10-20x more... well everyone has a different view.

Yesterday jes throwaway a half bottle of JC Merlot. After open for about 2 month and in the fridge, the taste of the wine a little weird. I guess they expired very fast once open yeah?

Lasts at most up to a week depending on how you store your wine after opening.

Only one week? No wonder it taste funny!

Yeah, they don't keep long, even if you keep them in the fridge. Some people use a vacuum pump to remove air from the bottle so that the wine lasts longer (you can buy the pump at most wine shops or even at wine sections at supermarkets). I've never used them as I finish my wines within a couple of days at most.

Jucso, Gaint & tesco which redwine reasonable to buy? begin taste dun too dry dun too young any recommanded? budget about RM45-60 & suitable for keep one?

hmm... i know CS is for keepinng > 5 yrs.. but wat bout Moet Chandon Champagne...? wat the recommended keeping time? Would not wan to waste the moet by keeping it too long

I think around RM45-60 is a good level to try a few red wines as a start. At that price, don't expect to find one suitable to keep. Instead try out a few different wines and see which ones you like. Start with Merlot, Pinot Noir (or Burgundy) and Valpolichella, and then move on to Cabernet Sauvignon (or Bordeaux) - at least 5 years old, Chianti, and Shiraz. After you know what you like, you can start to pick one for keeping. Try those wines from the usual countries: France, USA, Australia, NZ, Chile, South Africa. There's usually a decent selection at the hypermarkets.

Bear in mind that:
1. Merlot, Valpolichella, Pinot Noir/Burgundy are normally drunk relatively young.
2. Cab Sauv/Bordeaux is good for keeping (>5 years), but Chilean reds normally are already at their best after 5 years, and may not improve further.
3. Our >30C weather will "cook" the wines, and some believe it will make the wines mature faster than expected.


I don't know about champagne... never kept any.

Pot count o not

I've been looking around for Rosemount estate merlot because a friend really loves it, but haven't come across it yet... anyone know of any shops that carry it?

Do you have any good wine store that offer reasonable price and varieties of red wine?

try denise at taman tun. tesco mutiara damansara also got.

i dunno red wine got 2 kind... Shiraz , Merlot ...zzz
for me... Liquor = good !!
Red Wine More good !! xD

Hi all,

In the similar context, I recently was "enlighten" to the wine world and have tried a few type of wine.
I seem to have a liking for white wine more than red, maybe because I like the cooling effect (chilled before and during serving) compare to red wine.

For a new-comer, should I stick to red wine first, or can I explore white straight?
Also, my budget is normally below 50RM per bottle, and the few white wine I've bought arnt to my taste. Any recommendations of white wine for trying?

TQ

Drink what you like, red or white, it doesn't matter. Some people believe that its better to start with sweet whites (riesling), then to less sweet whites (sauvignon blanc), then move to dry whites (chardonnay), light reds (merlot, pinot noir) and finally full-bodied reds (cabernet sauvignon, shiraz). But I started out with cabernet sauvignon and just loved it. So it really is up to you.

Below RM50 in Malaysia is not easy to find really good ones since our taxes are so high. Try Montana (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc (I think around 60-70), Robert Mondavi Woodbridge (USA) Sauvignon Blanc (50-60), and maybe some others from the Marlborough region of NZ and Napa Valley (USA). Then try Cloudy Bay (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc (around 140-170). You should be able to taste the difference.

To substitute the pricey Cloudy Bay, you can try Oyster Bay. In Australia I pay around RM60 for Oyster Bay and RM120 for Cloudy Bay.

Cloudy is slightly better than Oyster but I feel it is not worth the double price.

Oyster Bay iSauvignon Blanc s very nice, I agree. Cheaper than Cloudy Bay. Unfortunately not as easy to find (in KL anyway).

I also like Cloudy Bay Te Koko Sauvignon Blanc. My favourite, although its very expensive, so I only buy it when I am overseas (where its much cheaper).

I've bought a sandalford Icewine back in 2004 for my dad when I was studying in perth back then and it was kept in KL till now

Still in my cabinet but not too sure if its a gone case for the wine as I heard icewine is not meant to be kept.

Maybe traveller can enlighten me a bit?

Icewine can be kept, but for long-term storage, like any wine, it should be kept in temperature/humidity controlled environments like wine chillers, especially in hot weather countries like Malaysia. I have kept icewines in my chillers for many years, the oldest icewine I have was bought 11 years ago, kept for 2 years in cool climate (US) and 9 years in chiller (Malaysia). Have drank them recently, and still taste great!

If you have kept your icewine in KL ambient temps for 5 years, I don't know if its still drinkable. I suggest opening them soonest and drinking them (if they are still drinkable), because hot weather tends to "cook" the wine and accelerates the aging/maturity process.

Hi all,

Glad that many wine experts here. I'm the beginner in wine thingy. Is there any sweet wine to go with steamboat session? Budget around RM40 - RM50/bottles, easily 3 - 4 bottles for 6 - 7 ppl? All beginners

Got wine to be drink with cold and some with warm (room temp)? I don't have wine chiller, only normal fridge, can use for a while first ar?

This post has been edited by Flyers: May 14 2009, 02:56 AM

stimbot wif beer. wif wine canot.

Steamboat usually have hot/spicy sauces like the chilli garlic sauce, which can overwhelm the delicate taste of fine wines. So if you want to drink wine with steamboat, I would suggest cheaper and sweeter wines (but not dessert wines) to go with it. Your budget of around RM40-50/bottle should be about right. Go for a sweet Riesling and have it chilled real cold before serving. Rieslings from Germany or Australia ought to be suitable for this.

If don't have wine chiller, you can use a normal fridge as a temporary storage place.

Hi,

Thanks for your info. Rieslings is the type of white wine, rite? What is the brand?

Yes, Riesling is white wine. Any brand will do. Just look for one within your budget. Since it's for steamboat, it probably won't matter much which winery made the wine. Just stick to your budget.

im looking for brown brothers, moscato 2008.
fell in love with this wine the first time i drank. anyone know where i can get?

hey guys,

I was wondering anyone ever tried ice wine? I have a 2004 Inniskillin Oak Aged Vidal Icewine Gold Label 200ml for sale. It was a gift from my friend in Canada, but I am not really into wine. He told me its really good quality and different from the normal red wine. If anyone here is interested i am looking to sell it off @ RM150, thanks.

Some details of the ice wine:

Though Icewine's roots can be traced to centuries old German winemakers, there is nothing more quintessentially Canadian than this luscious luxury borne of patience and sub zero bravura. Grapes are left on the vine well into the winter months to concentrate and intensify the flavours, as water content freezes, thaws and dehydrates in each precious Icewine grape.
Made in the Niagara Peninsula
Ideally suited to the Canadian winter season in both the Niagara Peninsula and the Okanagan Valley, the magical process of crafting Icewine is guided by nature — triggered by the snap of the wintry elements, the harvest can't begin until temperatures drop below minus eight degrees Celsius for a sustained period of time. There are rigorous specifications regulating the making of Icewine set out by Canada 's quality control board, the VQA (Vintner's Quality Alliance). Artificial freezing of the grapes is strictly prohibited.

Extreme Winemaking
Once the extreme temperatures arrive, Icewine pickers arrive, often in the dead of night, to harvest the frozen clusters. The precious grapes are immediately pressed in the extreme cold to extract the luscious nectar. In this process, the water content in each grape remains frozen in crystals, leaving only a few coveted drops of concentrated, intense liquid. Icewine yields are a mere 10-15% of an average table wine harvest. Slowly fermented over the coming months, this delicate nectar will eventually become Icewine.

Intense Flavours, Pure Varietal Character and Great Balance
The finished Icewine is intense, sweet and sumptuous, yet balanced with brilliant acidity, creating a unique sensation on the palate. Renowned for fruit flavours ranging from mango to peach to lychees, Icewine is truly a natural wonder and extreme winemaking at its best, yielding the impressions of tropical tastes wrought from the frigid extremes of the icy Canadian winterscape.

Inniskillin is the World Leader in Icewine
Inniskillin Icewine is well renowned as the world leader in Icewine. It is sold in over 59 countries and is the #1 distributed wine in Global Travel Retail.

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Added on June 15, 2009, 4:09 pmthe official website

http://www.inniskillin.com/en/ice/default.asp

This post has been edited by terrysoh: Jun 15 2009, 04:09 PM

After reading 4 pages of replies, seems like non one mention on Portugal wine.. although it is not as famous as its french counterpart but their PORTO range of wine can be put side by side with Bordeaux.

I have a bottle of 1985 Vintage Port wine which still waiting for the right time to uncorked it.. haha.. although 1985 is not a great year for PORTO, but it should taste great..

just my 2cents.. i learned more after reading this thread.

Icewine make for excellent dessert wines. I have several bottles of them from the Finger Lakes region of New York, Canada and Germany. Everytime I've opened a bottle for my friends, they've always loved it. Inniskillin is a well-known producer of wines. Although I've never had their icewines, I do like their Pinot Noir and Cabernet Franc.

Port is fortified wine, and has a higher alcohol content than the other wines, usually >14%. Not exactly a type of wine that I particularly enjoy myself, but from time to time I've had some and they have always been pretty good. In fact the oldest wine I have ever tasted was a 1894 port back in 2007. So it was 113 years old when I had it.. marvelous!

Hey. Good to find a thread talking about wine in lyn.

Icewine. Haven't seen any shops in msia selling icewines yet.
How does it taste like if compared with ports? I guess it won't be as caramel-like thick as a port?

Icewine looks like any other table wine, but is very sweet - like other dessert wines. Usually comes in tall thin bottles of 375ml. It's not caramel-thick but rather liquid. In Malaysia, you can find icewines at many wineshops, but usually they sell those from Inniskillin, a top producer of icewines from the Niagara region of Canada.

Interesting.

Is icewine the same as a Sauternes?
Like sparkling wine and a champagne.

No.

Icewine is made by allowing the grapes to freeze on the vines during winter, and then picking them (usually at night) and crushing them while in frozen state, so that the "juice" is in its most concentrated form and have a very high sugar content. You can have icewines made from several types of grapes. Icewine typically has a higher sugar content than Sauternes.

From wikipedia:
Sauternes is made from a variety of grapes that have been affected by the Botrytis fungus (noble rot), which concentrates the flavours. It is also very sweet. In addition, wines made this way can only be called "Sauternes" if it's from the Sauternes region of Bordeaux in France.

From wikipedia:

Just to add on some suggestions for icewine. Try the Germans Eiswein. I personally think they are the best when it comes to icewines. The layers and dimension of flavours that you get from an Eiswine is incredible. Though it does get a bit too overwhelming after the 1st glass, even with the hallmark Riesling acidity that comes through at the finish. Brilliant as a digestif but not something I could enjoy all night long.

Hi there,
anyone know any red wine seller here?
I am looking for red wines for my upcoming wedding dinner,but not so soon lar,but started looking for red wines.normally what are the type of red wines ppl usually serve in their wedding dinner?I am not so familiar with this red wine thingy so I need help from you guys out there.

My budget is around RM30-RM40,any good wine to recommend?I know with this kind of budget,there are not much good red wines,but at least one or two that you guys think that taste ok.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by terryykf: Jun 26 2009, 12:16 AM

If I'm looking for some wine that goes well with a fine tiramisu, which would be a better choice?

ice wine or red wine?

My budget is around 60-80 , any recommendation?

anyone any idea how long maks should a moet et chandon's champagne be kept? before it expires?

tried a few Eiswein but none beats the icewines I got from Canada.
Eiswein are generally more expensive than the Canadian.

anyone tried icewine sparking? few winery have them. buy from the source they usually cost CND$60++.
if u get the chance go on the ice wine festival on Nigara-on-the-lake, can experience ice wine tasting (the right way).


2008 price list of Iniskillin and Peller Estates (purchase from direct)

2007 Inniskillin Price List
2004 Select Late Harvest Vidal - CND$19.99
2004 Select Late Harvest Riesling - CND$24.75
2005 Vidal IceWine 200ml - CND$29.95
2005 Vidal IceWine 357ml - CND$54.95
2004 Vidal Sparkling Icewine 375ml - CND$54.95
2005 Vidal Oak Age Icewine 375ml - CND$89.95
2005 Riesling Icewine 375ml - CND$69.95
Cabernet Franc Icewine 375ml - CND$109.95

2007 Peller Estates Price List
Ice Cuvee -CND$30
2003 & 2004 Vidal Icewine 375ml - CND$52.95
2004 Chardonnay Icewine 375ml - CND$70
2000 Vidal Signature Icewine 375ml - CND$65
2002 Vidal Signature Icewine 375ml - CND$60
2004 Cabernet Frac 375ml- CND$90
2001 Riesling 375ml - CND$75

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 10 2009, 08:59 AM

Ice wine. Tiramisu is dessert so you need a dessert wine for that. However I haven't seen any icewines in Malaysia for below RM150. You can always look for small bottles or maybe some other dessert wines like late-harvest rieslings, or sauternes/barsac/cadillac.

Did you try all those icewines? I recently bought a few bottles of Inniskillin icewines... will have to try them sometime hehe.

Am off to UK & France soon... looking forward to some nicely-priced Bordeaux to drink while in Paris, hehe!

Inniskillin is a little over rated today. In competition the winner do go to other little known winery.
Niagara Falls being my backyard.
I do get to try a great number of ice wines from the region.
I had tried a few from US, Minnesota, Michigan and I think NY they are often expensive and not good.

say's I'm going times square (around that area) this weekend, any recommended shop to buy wine ? best is the boss very kind one, will intro me what nice what not nice one ... =)

ice wine =/ port wine?

ice wine != Port

Port are forified wine, brandy are often added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_wine

ice wine no brandy are added, grape are hang out on the vine until Jan then harvest.
yield are often low, grapes do become over ripe, birds do eat them, they do dry out too.
as the temp go lower the sugar content get concentrated.
http://www.wineintro.com/types/icewine.html
http://www.icewinefestival.com/page/icewine_home

Hi all

I'm looking for suitable yet inexpensive wines to serve at my wedding reception. The food is typical of a Chinese dishes served at any Chinese wedding receptions. Btw, it is a luncheon reception

Thus, what type of red wines would you suggest?

Thank you

is there a place to drink red wine in puchong ?

Moulin de Lavaud 05 consider under which group?
i tried and i think i can accept that. any recommendation which fall under the same group? thanks.

Hi All,

I am thinking of installing a wine cellar 8ftx10ft in my new house. I wonder if any one here knows a wine specialist who can install a full system? eg cooling system, wall and ceiling insulation, door and glass window? I stay in Penang. Thanks.

You can try the wine shops, some of them would have something similar installed in their premises, so they may know of the specialists you are looking for.

how to choose actually? i see i just take. lolx

Hi kuokyeow,

Do you know know where to buy Moulin De lavaud 05? Im searching long time cannot find ler...

Thanks

Hi,

Anyone knows where I can buy a good wine saver vacuum pump?
I've looking at off-the-rack item and not online. I've tried looking for it at some wine sections in super-marts but they ain't selling any..

I don't think jusco's wine section has it either.. didn't notice any wine accessories there...

Thanks

Where can i get 2006 Wente Reliz Creek Pinot Noir in Klang Valley? Anyone know how much it cost?

https://shop.wentevineyards.com/SHOP.AMS?LE...BOT&PART=450-06

This post has been edited by adriankhoo153: Mar 3 2010, 10:08 PM

hello, anyone here drank stanley wine before?

Anybody have any recommendation of sweet red wine? And any idea where to get it?

Thanks

try Port.
my fav. is taylors LBV.

Thanks for the info. Any idea where I can get this wine? and roughly how much?

port? quite easy to get drunk lol

Anyone interested to buy red wine for wedding or other functions?

I have 2 box (24bottles) Shiraz Cabernet leftover from my wedding. The brand is Fallon Fellie from Australia.

I am going to Melbourne Yarra Valley. Can anyone recommend me a good wine there? I dislike sweet redwine. I prefer wine that are smooth, not too strong or dry and most important, it must be a lil soury taste.

A lot of choices from Yering Station
http://www.yering.com/index.php

hi guys , i ALWAYS saw in those movie / Drama . those RICH PPL always order those red wine in hi class restaurant.

they always order , For example : 199x / 198x (YEAR) Lafite Red wine

So i wanna ask ,

1. the YEAR REPRESENT WAD ? represent the MANUFACTURE YEAR ?

2. The year means that OLDER taste better ? Hence more EXPENSIVE ?

3. i tot that after alcohol / wine keep in bottle = would only maintain same taste. no mather how long keeping = no change one

am i right guys ?