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post Feb 17 2009, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:00 PM)
Yesterday jes throwaway a half bottle of JC Merlot. After open for about 2 month and in the fridge, the taste of the wine a little weird. I guess they expired very fast once open yeah?
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Lasts at most up to a week depending on how you store your wine after opening.
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post Feb 17 2009, 12:24 PM

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Only one week? No wonder it taste funny!
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:24 PM)
Only one week? No wonder it taste funny!
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laugh.gif Yeah, they don't keep long, even if you keep them in the fridge. Some people use a vacuum pump to remove air from the bottle so that the wine lasts longer (you can buy the pump at most wine shops or even at wine sections at supermarkets). I've never used them as I finish my wines within a couple of days at most.
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post Mar 16 2009, 01:30 AM

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Jucso, Gaint & tesco which redwine reasonable to buy? begin taste dun too dry dun too young any recommanded? budget about RM45-60 & suitable for keep one?
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post Mar 17 2009, 01:00 AM

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hmm... i know CS is for keepinng > 5 yrs.. but wat bout Moet Chandon Champagne...? wat the recommended keeping time? Would not wan to waste the moet by keeping it too long

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QUOTE(mattafare @ Mar 16 2009, 01:30 AM)
Jucso, Gaint & tesco which redwine reasonable to buy? begin taste dun too dry dun too young any recommanded? budget about RM45-60 & suitable for keep one?
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I think around RM45-60 is a good level to try a few red wines as a start. At that price, don't expect to find one suitable to keep. Instead try out a few different wines and see which ones you like. Start with Merlot, Pinot Noir (or Burgundy) and Valpolichella, and then move on to Cabernet Sauvignon (or Bordeaux) - at least 5 years old, Chianti, and Shiraz. After you know what you like, you can start to pick one for keeping. Try those wines from the usual countries: France, USA, Australia, NZ, Chile, South Africa. There's usually a decent selection at the hypermarkets.

Bear in mind that:
1. Merlot, Valpolichella, Pinot Noir/Burgundy are normally drunk relatively young.
2. Cab Sauv/Bordeaux is good for keeping (>5 years), but Chilean reds normally are already at their best after 5 years, and may not improve further.
3. Our >30C weather will "cook" the wines, and some believe it will make the wines mature faster than expected.


QUOTE(D-Tourist @ Mar 17 2009, 01:00 AM)
hmm... i know CS is for keepinng > 5 yrs.. but wat bout Moet Chandon Champagne...? wat the recommended keeping time? Would not wan to waste the moet by keeping it too long
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I don't know about champagne... never kept any.
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post Mar 17 2009, 11:47 AM

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post Mar 19 2009, 10:58 AM

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I've been looking around for Rosemount estate merlot because a friend really loves it, but haven't come across it yet... anyone know of any shops that carry it?
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:55 PM

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Do you have any good wine store that offer reasonable price and varieties of red wine?

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post Mar 26 2009, 01:48 PM

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try denise at taman tun. tesco mutiara damansara also got.
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post Mar 27 2009, 03:50 AM

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i dunno red wine got 2 kind... Shiraz , Merlot ...zzz
for me... Liquor = good !!
Red Wine More good !! xD
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post Mar 27 2009, 10:52 AM

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Hi all,

In the similar context, I recently was "enlighten" to the wine world and have tried a few type of wine.
I seem to have a liking for white wine more than red, maybe because I like the cooling effect (chilled before and during serving) compare to red wine.

For a new-comer, should I stick to red wine first, or can I explore white straight?
Also, my budget is normally below 50RM per bottle, and the few white wine I've bought arnt to my taste. Any recommendations of white wine for trying?

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QUOTE(Dovienya @ Mar 27 2009, 10:52 AM)
Hi all,

In the similar context, I recently was "enlighten" to the wine world and have tried a few type of wine.
I seem to have a liking for white wine more than red, maybe because I like the cooling effect (chilled before and during serving) compare to red wine.

For a new-comer, should I stick to red wine first, or can I explore white straight?
Also, my budget is normally below 50RM per bottle, and the few white wine I've bought arnt to my taste. Any recommendations of white wine for trying?

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Drink what you like, red or white, it doesn't matter. Some people believe that its better to start with sweet whites (riesling), then to less sweet whites (sauvignon blanc), then move to dry whites (chardonnay), light reds (merlot, pinot noir) and finally full-bodied reds (cabernet sauvignon, shiraz). But I started out with cabernet sauvignon and just loved it. So it really is up to you.

Below RM50 in Malaysia is not easy to find really good ones since our taxes are so high. Try Montana (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc (I think around 60-70), Robert Mondavi Woodbridge (USA) Sauvignon Blanc (50-60), and maybe some others from the Marlborough region of NZ and Napa Valley (USA). Then try Cloudy Bay (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc (around 140-170). You should be able to taste the difference.
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post Apr 2 2009, 04:33 AM

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To substitute the pricey Cloudy Bay, you can try Oyster Bay. In Australia I pay around RM60 for Oyster Bay and RM120 for Cloudy Bay.

Cloudy is slightly better than Oyster but I feel it is not worth the double price.


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QUOTE(quantum @ Apr 2 2009, 04:33 AM)
To substitute the pricey Cloudy Bay, you can try Oyster Bay. In Australia I pay around RM60 for Oyster Bay and RM120 for Cloudy Bay.

Cloudy is slightly better than Oyster but I feel it is not worth the double price.
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Oyster Bay iSauvignon Blanc s very nice, I agree. Cheaper than Cloudy Bay. Unfortunately not as easy to find (in KL anyway).

I also like Cloudy Bay Te Koko Sauvignon Blanc. My favourite, although its very expensive, so I only buy it when I am overseas (where its much cheaper).
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I've bought a sandalford Icewine back in 2004 for my dad when I was studying in perth back then and it was kept in KL till now

Still in my cabinet but not too sure if its a gone case for the wine as I heard icewine is not meant to be kept.

Maybe traveller can enlighten me a bit?
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 2 2009, 01:55 PM)
I've bought a sandalford Icewine back in 2004 for my dad when I was studying in perth back then and it was kept in KL till now

Still in my cabinet but not too sure if its a gone case for the wine as I heard icewine is not meant to be kept.

Maybe traveller can enlighten me a bit?
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Icewine can be kept, but for long-term storage, like any wine, it should be kept in temperature/humidity controlled environments like wine chillers, especially in hot weather countries like Malaysia. I have kept icewines in my chillers for many years, the oldest icewine I have was bought 11 years ago, kept for 2 years in cool climate (US) and 9 years in chiller (Malaysia). Have drank them recently, and still taste great!

If you have kept your icewine in KL ambient temps for 5 years, I don't know if its still drinkable. I suggest opening them soonest and drinking them (if they are still drinkable), because hot weather tends to "cook" the wine and accelerates the aging/maturity process.
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Hi all,

Glad that many wine experts here. I'm the beginner in wine thingy. Is there any sweet wine to go with steamboat session? Budget around RM40 - RM50/bottles, easily 3 - 4 bottles for 6 - 7 ppl? All beginners wink.gif

Got wine to be drink with cold and some with warm (room temp)? I don't have wine chiller, only normal fridge, can use for a while first ar? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Flyers @ May 14 2009, 02:54 AM)
Hi all,

Glad that many wine experts here. I'm the beginner in wine thingy. Is there any sweet wine to go with steamboat session? Budget around RM40 - RM50/bottles, easily 3 - 4 bottles for 6 - 7 ppl? All beginners wink.gif

Got wine to be drink with cold and some with warm (room temp)? I don't have wine chiller, only normal fridge, can use for a while first ar?  rclxub.gif
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Steamboat usually have hot/spicy sauces like the chilli garlic sauce, which can overwhelm the delicate taste of fine wines. So if you want to drink wine with steamboat, I would suggest cheaper and sweeter wines (but not dessert wines) to go with it. Your budget of around RM40-50/bottle should be about right. Go for a sweet Riesling and have it chilled real cold before serving. Rieslings from Germany or Australia ought to be suitable for this.

If don't have wine chiller, you can use a normal fridge as a temporary storage place.



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