1. Do you means that SOME year de grape good good but some year grape bad bad ?

2. IF WELL keep , Would red wine become More tasty if keep longer ?

3. how come red wine does not sell off after keeping so long time ? They keep at least 20-30 years ???

Whats the Value of keeping it ?

guys , i am SERIOUS noob in wine , need more pro to explain yah

This post has been edited by Tommykeng: May 28 2012, 06:51 PM

For storage:

In Malaysia it is worthwhile to invest in a wine fridge, you should aim to keep the temperature constant between 10c - 15c

You should always store red wine horizontally so as to keep the cork fairly moist & reduce the possibilities of cracking or air getting into the bottle resulting in the 'corked' effect.

Humidity is also important, if too dry the cork can crack & ruin the wine with air getting in & oxidizing the wine (corked). High humidity is best somewhere between 65-75% RH.

Keep the bottle in a dark place where it will not be disturbed, a wine fridge dedicated solely to wine is best as the door will not be opened 20 times a day (like a typical kitchen fridge) increasing the risk of moving the wine & so not allowing the sediment to settle properly.

Choosing wines:

The year for the grape used in the wine is very important. In a vintage year the grapes are bursting with flavour & this reflects in the quality of the wine. A good way to start is to research by region because one of the key factors is what the weather was like during that period.

You can find out about Vintage Guides for Australian Reds here.

There will be other pages on the net with similar information to help you choose which wine is good for storage.

hmmm .... where can you all get those OLD WINE ?
how much a Old wine cost may i ask ?

old wines not necessary good. young wines not necessary bad. problem with wines is, you know too little, you also don't know anything, but too difficult to know too many things.

easiest way, buy a bottle a month/a week whenever you can afford it, and drink it. if you like it, remember the brand and year and grape. keep in memory what type of grapes you like (shiraz, merlot, cabernet sauvigon, etc for reds or sauvignon blanc, riesling, etc for whites). know more doesn't mean you enjoy more. just try and you'll eventually learn as you drink along. after all, wines are supposed to be enjoyed!

blackwhitechipskl is the wine boss to go..

TS, jz listen to him

oh yea, jz to tell u, once u learn how to enjoy wine, u will be addicted to it..and by then u wont be hunting for 60bucks, 80bucks wine..there is red wine out there priced at 10grand ++

and not to forget the founder of red wine is france..their red wine are very rich of their wooden drum flavor..i used to studied wine..and the topic and sub topic of wine is so darn complicated..till so many of us failed this subject..lol..

Jz like blackwhiteschipkl said, the more u drink the more u will understand..

Red wine, white wine, ice wine, rose, port, and a few more names i've forgotten..

The wine only age in the barrel. Once bottle i think no more change in quality.

So 1970 wine will be the same this year compare 5 yrs later in quality. Not really sure how it works.

I think is see the harvest and production quality of the year. So maybe 1970 wine maybe not so good harvest price will ower comparre 1980 if the grape quality good?

Wines is depending on each person preference and taste, it doesn't mean that 1970 or 1980++ wines that may suits you. There are alot types of wines and u got to try it and see which type of wines your comfortable with.

A RM80-RM150 is good enough for you to try and taste it as a beginner. Btw, if your looking for any red/white wines or recommendation, u may hit me up.

Old wines
Is called vintage wine actually.

Not true. The aging in barrel but not in bottle thing applies mostly to whisky and other spirits. Wine definitely matures after bottling. Not to say that old is gold. Some wines improve with age most turn flat with age.

This post has been edited by Monstar: Jul 11 2012, 12:05 AM

True. Wines continue to age in their bottles. Good wines improve with age and they are expensive so make sure you store them properly.

Cheap ones you drink la, don't keep otherwise they turn into vinegar.

Most wines nowadays (especially in the RM 0 - RM 300 retail range) are made for young drinking. I don't usually buy white wines above 3 years of age, and reds above 5 years.

Not all red wines taste better when they are older.

My preferences would be full bodied Italian wine from the southern region (nero d'avola, cannonau) from the 2008 vintage for red, and 2010/2011 white (vermentino, orvieto classico, soave).

I quite fancy a crisp, cold sauvignon blanc from villa maria in new zealand as well.

How about these Italiano?

Hi there...

How are you guys...
I do keep some wine in my chiller for few years...
Now I will moving to other state soon so I'm thinking to let go some of my collection...
Can any one tell me where is the best way to sell it online?
I'm from Kota Kinabalu, Sabah...
I've been asking many of the wine drinker here but they just feel scare to buy from me...
Maybe I'm just too young? 34y/o...
I been in this wine keeping hobby for more than 5 years...
Thanks...

I've had the two Tignanello, both '07 and '08.

I like '08 better. I don't know why.

Same with me

'08 is more approachable to me but '07 is the one with more character and the long distance runner, so said the wine critics But I'm no expert on wine so I just like it or I don't.

What's your opinion on these?

Why no carbenet in the poll? My all time fav is Miguel Torres - Manso de Velasco (Best Wine 2006)

I doubt you could sell your collection online. Wine enthusiasts would want to look at the colour and condition before buying or if they buy online it would be from reputable sellers. Since you have been keeping them for years why not just move them with you so that you could continue to indulge in this hobby in your new location? Freight may be a bit more expensive but you may not be able to replace your collection at the same cost not to mention some vintages may be irreplaceable.

If your collection is too huge to be moved then try selling them to friends in your wine circle or drink up

No idea on French wines, I don't buy them unless someone gives them to me. Only encounter was Chateau Lafite, which was really expensive but honestly I thought it was overated. I had better bottles of brunello di montalcino at less than 1/2 the prices.

I'm more familiar with Italian wines though.

Can you direct me to which website I can sell my wine?

I have around 30 bottle collectible and around 50 bottle daily drinkable wine in my chiller...

You could try your luck here or mudah or mysimplifieds etc but I doubt you can sell. Like I said earlier just move them with you and enjoy with friends.



This post has been edited by TinyPumpkin: Jul 18 2012, 03:52 PM