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post Oct 5 2016, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(laucy.my @ Oct 3 2016, 10:16 AM)
There is a really good place called Spineworks (previously The Spinal Joint) on 10th floor Empire Soho Subang. I've been seen by both Dr. Barry and Dr. Jennyfer. While they are both excellent, because Dr. Barry is always booked full he doesn't spend as much time and detail as Dr. Jennyfer. If I am not wrong, first visit is RM120 and subsequent visits RM100. I used to have a lot of back problems but they've done some miracle work, especially Dr. Jennyfer. Highly recommended!
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thank you so much for your kind recommendation, will try it out when I'm free biggrin.gif
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post Nov 6 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(laucy.my @ Oct 3 2016, 10:16 AM)
There is a really good place called Spineworks (previously The Spinal Joint) on 10th floor Empire Soho Subang. I've been seen by both Dr. Barry and Dr. Jennyfer. While they are both excellent, because Dr. Barry is always booked full he doesn't spend as much time and detail as Dr. Jennyfer. If I am not wrong, first visit is RM120 and subsequent visits RM100. I used to have a lot of back problems but they've done some miracle work, especially Dr. Jennyfer. Highly recommended!
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saw from their website its rm150

any recommendation for PJ area
i guess any chiro would be okayfor neck/back problem hmm.gif
cheaper fees would be better too.

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post Nov 6 2016, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Nov 6 2016, 04:21 PM)
saw from their website its rm150

any recommendation for PJ area
i guess any chiro would be okayfor neck/back problem hmm.gif
cheaper fees would be better too.
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Sorry, can't help you there. Neck cracking especially is a risky thing, one wrong move and you could be done for life so I'd rather stick to the one I know for sure is good and safe. There might be others who are able to help you. Good luck smile.gif
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post Feb 26 2017, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(citiranger @ Mar 2 2016, 05:51 PM)
I called myself 'victim' and not victim, basically it depends on how they advise you.
The thing is, even without actually getting injured, many (especially urban) people have back pain one way or another, due to lifestyle.

Getting enough exercise, good posture and getting a 'crack' once a while from the chiro is good. But many of these centres wants your $$$, they'll tell you all the packages that you may not really need, tie you down long term.

BTW, do remember to used up all your treatment in 12 months, if not they'll forfeit it. Just treat your physiotherapy sessions as personal training session. If you got a pretty/handsome therapist, then considered it a BONUS  thumbup.gif
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sorry for resurrecting your own post. I went to a chiro and the doctor said i need 36 session to adjust my neck. Based on the X-Ray, my neck is bending forward which mean they need to adjust it backward to gain the 'C-shape'. But the question is, does it really need up to 36 sessions? It is something like 3 times a week.
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post Feb 26 2017, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 26 2017, 02:21 PM)
sorry for resurrecting your own post. I went to a chiro and the doctor said i need 36 session to adjust my neck. Based on the X-Ray, my neck is bending forward which mean they need to adjust it backward to gain the 'C-shape'. But the question is, does it really need up to 36 sessions? It is something like 3 times a week.
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wow. 3 times a week seems a lot! have you seek second opinion? my chiro back in nz had also requested me to have adjustment like 3 times a week at the beginning for my backache but subsequently reduced to once a week.

adjustment in malaysia is very expensive compare to nz (without the currency exchange) and the people there usually get adjustment many times a week.

did the chiro offer you a package for the 36 treatments?
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post Feb 26 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(yo_yo @ Feb 26 2017, 10:30 PM)
wow. 3 times a week seems a lot! have you seek second opinion? my chiro back in nz had also requested me to have adjustment like 3 times a week at the beginning for my backache but subsequently reduced to once a week.

adjustment in malaysia is very expensive compare to nz (without the currency exchange) and the people there usually get adjustment many times a week.

did the chiro offer you a package for the 36 treatments?
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the plan was

first 2 month: 3 times a week = 24 times
3rd month: 2 times a week = 8 times
4th month once a week = 4 times

total 36

Asking me to sign a package of 40 times for RM3,400

i am looking for second opinion, maybe discover chiropractic at SS2

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post Feb 26 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 26 2017, 10:36 PM)
the plan was

first 2 month: 3 times a week = 24 times
3rd month: 2 times a week = 8 times
4th month once a week = 4 times

total 36

Asking me to sign a package of 40 times for RM3,400

i am looking for second opinion, maybe discover chiropractic at SS2
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wow. looks like ur neck condition is pretty serious. when i did the calculation for one session from the package price, it's quite reasonable. how much does this chiro charge for single session in the first place? i have seen nowadays many chiro are charging a lot for one session.
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post Feb 26 2017, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(yo_yo @ Feb 26 2017, 10:44 PM)
wow. looks like ur neck condition is pretty serious. when i did the calculation for one session from the package price, it's quite reasonable. how much does this chiro charge for single session in the first place? i have seen nowadays many chiro are charging a lot for one session.
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1 session is rm100, taking package is cheaper. The chiro said it is consider serious. But honestly I don't feel anything now, not painful nothing. Just stiffness sometime
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post Feb 26 2017, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 26 2017, 10:57 PM)
1 session is rm100, taking package is cheaper. The chiro said it is consider serious. But honestly I don't feel anything now, not painful nothing. Just stiffness sometime
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very cheap since i have seen some single session = rm180. may i know where is this chiro? if it's serious, then i'd suggest you to get the second opinion soon. i believe you would see improvement to your neck after the adjustment.

good luck.
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post Feb 26 2017, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(yo_yo @ Feb 26 2017, 11:02 PM)
very cheap since i have seen some single session = rm180. may i know where is this chiro? if it's serious, then i'd suggest you to get the second opinion soon. i believe you would see improvement to your neck after the adjustment.

good luck.
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post Feb 27 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 26 2017, 02:21 PM)
sorry for resurrecting your own post. I went to a chiro and the doctor said i need 36 session to adjust my neck. Based on the X-Ray, my neck is bending forward which mean they need to adjust it backward to gain the 'C-shape'. But the question is, does it really need up to 36 sessions? It is something like 3 times a week.
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Bro, if you want my opinion, all chiros in Malaysia will ask you to take up "packages". That way, you are committed to them long term, it makes business sense to them.

Chiropractors are very common in other countries, here.... they seem to be premium service, so they CHARGE like mad. Many companies also hire Foreigners so they get to charge more. But overall, prices are coming down.

Now, if you ask me, (don't get offended bro) many people are not getting enough exercise and we are constantly slouching looking at smartphones. I'm too, but now I try to be aware of it, and constantly stretches.

I have spent alot, I can only advise those who want cheaper and effective treatment. What I am doing is called pain management.... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2017, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(citiranger @ Feb 27 2017, 11:08 AM)
Bro, if you want my opinion, all chiros in Malaysia will ask you to take up "packages". That way, you are committed to them long term, it makes business sense to them.

Chiropractors are very common in other countries, here.... they seem to be premium service, so they CHARGE like mad. Many companies also hire Foreigners so they get to charge more. But overall, prices are coming down.

Now, if you ask me, (don't get offended bro) many people are not getting enough exercise and we are constantly slouching looking at smartphones. I'm too, but now I try to be aware of it, and constantly stretches.

I have spent alot, I can only advise those who want cheaper and effective treatment. What I am doing is called pain management.... biggrin.gif
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Thanks bro. Honestly for now, I don't feel any pain on my neck. It is just sometime I feel stiffness after long day of work. Didn't expect the X-Ray interpretation turn out to the that bad.

Am thinking to bring my X ray to normal GP and see what they talk from other perspective than Chiro

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post Feb 27 2017, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 27 2017, 12:03 PM)
Thanks bro. Honestly for now, I don't feel any pain on my neck. It is just sometime I feel stiffness after long day of work. Didn't expect the X-Ray interpretation turn out to the that bad.

Am thinking to bring my X ray to normal GP and see what they talk from other perspective than Chiro
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Ah, but don't wait till you are in pain only remedy it.

(Don't get offended) You might have posture problem, and if you are in 20s or 30s. When you're older, it would be more difficult to remedy.

If you have time to spare, go to IMU Community Centre in S.Park Desa Petaling. It is RM 45.00 not inclusive GST. Tell them it is your first time, they have to ask alot of question. Bring your Xray.

Ask to see Dr Quin Pee, you may think she's has little experience. I find her very good in fixing neck. (I can tell you by experience cos I have been treated by many chiros) Usually I go get cracked by her like once a month or so (pain management). Bonus: She's cute thumbsup.gif .
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post Feb 27 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(citiranger @ Feb 27 2017, 12:54 PM)

If you have time to spare, go to IMU Community Centre in S.Park Desa Petaling. It is RM 45.00 not inclusive GST. Tell them it is your first time, they have to ask alot of question. Bring your Xray.

Ask to see Dr Quin Pee, you may think she's has little experience. I find her very good in fixing neck. (I can tell you by experience cos I have been treated by many chiros) Usually I go get cracked by her like once a month or so (pain management). Bonus: She's cute  thumbsup.gif .
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since you mentioned Dr Quin Pee is good, i may give her a go. i once went to imu main campus at bukit jalil and i didn't like the assigned chiro. for some reasons he only wanted to focus on my complaint area and skipped my other body parts. and it was rm100!

are the chiro students doing their practical at desa petaling centre?
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QUOTE(citiranger @ Feb 27 2017, 11:08 AM)
Bro, if you want my opinion, all chiros in Malaysia will ask you to take up "packages". That way, you are committed to them long term, it makes business sense to them.

Chiropractors are very common in other countries, here.... they seem to be premium service, so they CHARGE like mad. Many companies also hire Foreigners so they get to charge more. But overall, prices are coming down.

Now, if you ask me, (don't get offended bro) many people are not getting enough exercise and we are constantly slouching looking at smartphones. I'm too, but now I try to be aware of it, and constantly stretches.

I have spent alot, I can only advise those who want cheaper and effective treatment. What I am doing is called pain management.... biggrin.gif
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Actually not all chiros in Malaysia practice the "package" style. It all depends on the area (high-class/expat area at Hartamas would logically cost more), and the style of practice (the more hardsell the business practice usually means more expensive).

There are pros and cons about packages. Its easy to pinpoint the chiro and say that the clinic is business-minded and wants to buy your long-term commitment by selling you a thousand dollar package, but what most people fail to understand is that chiro treatments are not one or two-time treatments, some patients may require 6-8 visits, some may require 12-16 visits for full recovery and it all depends on the patient's condition. However, the mindset of most people is that if they get better after 2-3 visits, they wouldn't return for further visits anymore as they think that they've recovered. But since their condition hasn't fully resolved yet, their pain would return after awhile, and they would mistakenly think that chiropractic didn't help them, but in truth, it is the patient who didn't finish his entire course of treatments. It's akin to a person who is prescribed a 7-day antibiotic course but he stops after the third day as he feels that he has recovered, but in fact, he hasn't.

But of course, the cons about packages is that it doesn't guarantee that you'll recover in xx amount of sessions. What if you don't recover in 36 sessions? Are you gonna ask for a refund? Packages actually pose an ethical dilemma in such cases.

Personally, I don't sell packages because of this ethical dilemma. But I try to help my patients understand that it requires time for recovery, and not just 2-3 times I would be able to fix their issue.
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post Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(yo_yo @ Feb 27 2017, 01:27 PM)
since you mentioned Dr Quin Pee is good, i may give her a go. i once went to imu main campus at bukit jalil and i didn't like the assigned chiro. for some reasons he only wanted to focus on my complaint area and skipped my other body parts. and it was rm100!

are the chiro students doing their practical at desa petaling centre?
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Graduate chiros are being assigned (maybe it is their internship) to Desa Petaling. I haven't seen students. (Plus I do not want students to twist my neck)

It is all up to individuals, some people may like stronger chiros.
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post Feb 28 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(backwellness @ Feb 27 2017, 11:19 PM)
Actually not all chiros in Malaysia practice the "package" style. It all depends on the area (high-class/expat area at Hartamas would logically cost more), and the style of practice (the more hardsell the business practice usually means more expensive).

There are pros and cons about packages. Its easy to pinpoint the chiro and say that the clinic is business-minded and wants to buy your long-term commitment by selling you a thousand dollar package, but what most people fail to understand is that chiro treatments are not one or two-time treatments, some patients may require 6-8 visits, some may require 12-16 visits for full recovery and it all depends on the patient's condition. However, the mindset of most people is that if they get better after 2-3 visits, they wouldn't return for further visits anymore as they think that they've recovered. But since their condition hasn't fully resolved yet, their pain would return after awhile, and they would mistakenly think that chiropractic didn't help them, but in truth, it is the patient who didn't finish his entire course of treatments. It's akin to a person who is prescribed a 7-day antibiotic course but he stops after the third day as he feels that he has recovered, but in fact, he hasn't.

But of course, the cons about packages is that it doesn't guarantee that you'll recover in xx amount of sessions. What if you don't recover in 36 sessions? Are you gonna ask for a refund? Packages actually pose an ethical dilemma in such cases.

Personally, I don't sell packages because of this ethical dilemma. But I try to help my patients understand that it requires time for recovery, and not just 2-3 times I would be able to fix their issue.
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Totally agree with what you have said. I assume you are a chiro yourself.

While patients mindset needs to be changed, Clinics should also know not everyone can afford Packages that cost Bomb if not a Grenade. Imagine spending RM100++ every week (at least), and non insurance claimable, and non tax deductable (I just put in la, if Income Tax want to see, I show them the Invoices). you

Most (not all bro) chiro will tell you after overcoming the pain stage, you must sign up their physio packages. And most of these treatments can only be undergone during office hours. Now for a layman, how many will have enough MC and leaves to go through this. It happened to me, that's why I'm sharing it here. I also know many not well to do with back pain will only take pain killers or go for injections when the pain comes back.



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post Feb 28 2017, 10:28 AM

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I merely suggest alternative pain management:
Gym membership (now tax deductable) and don't go for the super fancy expensive one la.
Visit to local chiro (RM45-120) once a month to get adjusted.

For those who can afford it, by all means sign up those packages. Those chiro and staffs also need to makan one. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 28 2017, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(citiranger @ Feb 28 2017, 10:21 AM)
Totally agree with what you have said. I assume you are a chiro yourself.

While patients mindset needs to be changed, Clinics should also know not everyone can afford Packages that cost Bomb if not a Grenade. Imagine spending RM100++ every week (at least), and non insurance claimable, and non tax deductable (I just put in la, if Income Tax want to see, I show them the Invoices). you

Most (not all bro) chiro will tell you after overcoming the pain stage, you must sign up their physio packages. And most of these treatments can only be undergone during office hours. Now for a layman, how many will have enough MC and leaves to go through this. It happened to me, that's why I'm sharing it here. I also know many not well to do with back pain will only take pain killers or go for injections when the pain comes back.
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Yeah, I'm a chiropractor myself, but at the same time, I try to see from a consumer/patient's perspective that it is difficult to cough up a few thousand for a "package" or an obscene amount for a pay-per-visit, hence I price my treatment charges are as reasonable as possible. I feel the pain too when I sign-up for a gym membership and they try to sell me a 12-month package for over Rm1k whereas discourage me from doing monthly payments which costs significantly more.

As for patients' mindset, honestly, I always believe it's the doctor's responsibility to educate them (that it takes more than a one treatment to recover). I don't think we should shove a thousand dollar package down their throat just to buy their commitment. Use education to secure a commitment, not their wallet.

As for physiotherapy, it is my opinion that chiropractors really should leave that aside. If you look back into the history of chiropractic, we didn't work much with physios, because it is the chiropractic adjustment that fixed the problem. The entrance of physios into the domain of chiropractic is very recent, and of course, as you've guessed it, an additional income source for the clinic. The chiropractic adjustment alone can already do wonders, and if need be, chiros should refer patients out for physio, and not just refer EVERY single patient to a physio.

Actually there are a few chiropractic clinics which open up till late at night, you just need to look for it. For me, I work till late nights (8-9pm) two to three days a week.
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QUOTE(backwellness @ Feb 28 2017, 11:25 AM)
Yeah, I'm a chiropractor myself, but at the same time, I try to see from a consumer/patient's perspective that it is difficult to cough up a few thousand for a "package" or an obscene amount for a pay-per-visit, hence I price my treatment charges are as reasonable as possible. I feel the pain too when I sign-up for a gym membership and they try to sell me a 12-month package for over Rm1k whereas discourage me from doing monthly payments which costs significantly more.

As for patients' mindset, honestly, I always believe it's the doctor's responsibility to educate them (that it takes more than a one treatment to recover). I don't think we should shove a thousand dollar package down their throat just to buy their commitment. Use education to secure a commitment, not their wallet.

As for physiotherapy, it is my opinion that chiropractors really should leave that aside. If you look back into the history of chiropractic, we didn't work much with physios, because it is the chiropractic adjustment that fixed the problem. The entrance of physios into the domain of chiropractic is very recent, and of course, as you've guessed it, an additional income source for the clinic. The chiropractic adjustment alone can already do wonders, and if need be, chiros should refer patients out for physio, and not just refer EVERY single patient to a physio.

Actually there are a few chiropractic clinics which open up till late at night, you just need to look for it. For me, I work till late nights (8-9pm) two to three days a week.
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Where your place and fee charge? Which other clinics open late?

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