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post Jan 12 2009, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 12 2009, 12:52 PM)
well...that's better and good to protect gb.
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remove it better right? at least campro ones should remove it, the car engine is too hot (too lean)??
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post Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 12 2009, 03:27 PM)
remove what?
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remove the thermostat, the thermostat will open up to allow more water to circulate in the engine in certain temperature.

i removed the one in my 4G15, plan to remove the cam-tak-pro ones..

i installed the ATF cooler, a chop shop unit (toyota one), now change of gears feels smoother...
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post Jan 14 2009, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 14 2009, 02:10 PM)
the radiator fan? aren't this will shortened the lifespan of the fan itself?  hmm.gif
btw, fan is  a lot more cheaper than the engine and the auto tranny  tongue.gif

am planning to go for hotbits 4-2-1 extractor after cny. hopefully can get more red packet to cover the cost  whistling.gif

waja 2004 4G18  auto  here.
Colour: brown
Modification: none....but planning to mod here and there soon to catch up with my old wira gsrt tongue.gif


Added on January 14, 2009, 2:11 pm

it's about time you go for air-cond servicing.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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not the radiator fan thermostat lah, i mean the water routing thermostat. after u start ur car, the water only route certain part of the engine only to allow quick warm up, after that, the thermostat will open up to allow water to be routed to more area.

yes, after the ATF cooler installation, i find it easy to rev up. easily climb up 6K ~ 7K rpm. when down hill, the down shift will not kick in too soon.


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post Jan 15 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jan 15 2009, 12:18 AM)
IMHO thats quite bad.  shocking.gif
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mine also bad, stock is 8km/l only

then i change mythelogy LCP, it become 10km/l (100 city driving with some high rev)

then i decat (really sorry to the environment, not significant improvement in FC, but got different in pickup), it became 11++km/l hardly touch 12km/l.

i too don't encourage decat, a felt a bit bad to the environment.

then i added ATF cooler, i think the FC improve also, still monitoring. And i think it is best investment in modding the car so far. to prevent too many energy lost in the AT and prolong the life of the AT GB.

mine is cam-tak-pro "E" version. (look like squareballs avatar one)
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post Jan 15 2009, 02:52 PM

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to save FC in cam-tak-pro not neccessary lite foot driving.

rev it to 2K then maintain will save more than gradually increase the rpm.

if you want more power have to rev it to 4K rpm then cruise will save more.

the theory is to get the car move, then maintain the momentum.

i study the cam-tak-pro rpm range and torque curve, plus some driving monitoring to understand this.

dun fire me ah, my theory not einstein theory, just share what i founf out oni, might not be true with your car.
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post Jan 15 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 15 2009, 02:52 PM)
u need to reset ur ECU memory after done decat and LCP.

Btw, since so many ppl care about enviroment why not u guys do some gathering and bring along the banner to the bus station and lorry company. Make them to cut down their black smoke, after that all us can use back the cat-con. thumbup.gif
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how to reset the ecu?
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 15 2009, 02:59 PM)
remove the memory fuse(with yellow casing) on the fuse box next to your air intake. Press brake and put back the memory fuse. Start ur engine and switch on your aircon to max and let the car idling for 10mins (Don't step on the accelerator). after 10mins switch off your engine and start back again, that completed the cycle.
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huh, how to press brake and put back the fuse at the same time? press brake inside car rite? fuse box out side car right? or you mean, go inside the car, step on the brake one time, then come out and insert the memory fuse?

or need someone outside the car while you press the brake then at the same time the other person put in the fuse?
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 15 2009, 03:09 PM)
ooh great! then the health ministry has to design a catalyst converter for all the smoker and install that on their mouth to reduce the pollution.
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there is,, the filter at the end of the ciggy does the job, but not as good as cat con..haha
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 15 2009, 03:26 PM)
you are kinda a right. a friend of mine driving a 2005 camxpro waja auto. driving with light foot return a bad fc.
anything over 3.5k and the engine shows it's true potential. the fc too; shows better return.
perhaps, it was the camxpro's high rev nature / engine design itself. hmm.gif
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the prob is we always need to rev it till 3.5K, so making the GB cannot tahan the short stint rev (high temp)

tt's y i decided to invest in ATF cooler, for me to rev more with peace of mind
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post Jan 15 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 15 2009, 03:57 PM)
the GB won't be that fragile la, that is INVECSII gb and it can hold up to 8.2K rev. If it can't withstand 3.5K rev then must as well Proton place a rev cut at 3K.
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when i say rev till 3.5K u think only 3.5K meh...hehehe...i know INVECS II is durable, but i want it to be more durable due to the way i drive, the hills i always pull up and the load i always carry.

Load is a killer to AT GB.
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post Jan 15 2009, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 15 2009, 06:17 PM)
nice move with the AT cooler then  thumbup.gif 
how much does the ATF cooler installation cost you?
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i got it from chop shop, cost plus installation is rm180...need to top up SPIII ATF around half liter.
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post Jan 16 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(mrenoma @ Jan 15 2009, 11:09 PM)
Hello everybody. Wanna ask if there any waja owner here wanna sell their 4g18p engine. Wan to buy urgently. Pls pm me or sms/call if any at 0124108094
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chop shop can get, best if u can source one that comes with INVECS III GB


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QUOTE(blackmachine @ Jan 16 2009, 12:11 AM)
ic, ATF Cooler will definetly be in my list, any ATF cooler brand/design wouldnt be any problem right? might as well post a pic? very interested
by the way, anybody know how much is AT GB AND Manual GB if i did thrash my AT GB Tranny,  rclxub.gif
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pix hard to take liao, as it is behind the front grill, i'll try....

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post Jan 16 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 16 2009, 09:48 AM)
bro, InvecsIII cannot fit to 4G18 neither it can fit into 2nd generation Mivec / GSR.
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there is 4G18 with INVECS III, it's available in the lancer 1.6

see this: http://cars.st701.com/cars/view/27353

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer (especially scroll down to see the 7th gen lancer)

i know there is coz i source for it before...

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post Jan 16 2009, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 16 2009, 01:46 PM)
That InvecsIII is used in CG chassis engine, while we're CK/CM/CJ chassis engine. Has you saw any local 4G18/4G92/4G93 or Campro using InvecsIII?
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tt's why i say source from mitsu lancer loh
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post Jan 22 2009, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 22 2009, 10:18 AM)
Mine is 2001 model la...only just transplant mivec. So anyone interested before i change my mind again. hehehe....RM35K.
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what is ur next ride be? waja cps? or turn to japs liao?
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post Jan 22 2009, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 22 2009, 10:54 AM)
Japs car lo.....


Added on January 22, 2009, 10:58 am

Mivec engine + installation + rebuild + JPJ Endorsement = RM12K....
My custom made headlight still not yet counted hahaha....
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what jap car you are interested in?
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post Jan 22 2009, 01:13 PM

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many choice can consider within the 1.6 cc sector

i wouldn't go for the toyota or honda anymore...if u dare, try the 308 turbo.

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post Jan 22 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(avars @ Jan 22 2009, 01:39 PM)
wuts with toyota/honda? bored already?
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the toyota and honda 1.5 / 1.6 / 1.8 segment are not really value for money......especially toyota...

no doubt they are good cars, compare to specs they use to offer...now it seems not so much of a good ownership


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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 22 2009, 01:48 PM)
do you know what is the maintenance cost for 308?
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if worry about the turbo maintenance, can still op for the 308 NA.


Added on January 22, 2009, 3:41 pm
QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 22 2009, 01:55 PM)
dunno yet la....still dilemma whether to let it go or keep it. Will see how after CNY.
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mah dun sell loh, where to get 1.6 car with multilink rear suspension, those waja space...and dun forget for a very low budget.

if jap, at least fork out ~80K, but what you get? rear beam suspension? cramp interior? vvti and ivtech are not really very much better than MIVEC...unless u r talking about face lah...of course some die hard brand victim will welcome to their club when they insist the moon shines better on foreign land...and certain brand are their choice and the only choice without looking at technical specs...

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post Jan 22 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 22 2009, 10:18 PM)
I'm asking both 308 turbo and 308 NA maintenance. Do you know?

Bro don't simply bash other brand without further understand their spec and reliability.
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frankly speaking, i dunno the maintenance cost.

duh doh.gif , i am not bashing those brands, just sharing my 2 cents nia, sorry if i make you misunderstood or offended you in anyway sweat.gif blush.gif ...and no doubt some japs brand are well known for reliability. i am in automotive field my-self today and tell you 9 years in this industry, i see a lot shocking.gif . look back to the older japs models say in the 90's and compare the ones we have currently. i'd say, during the 90's, japs packed in a lot and try hard to sell the car rclxms.gif and to please the customer (frankly speaking i like the civic and the toyota SEG from those days rclxm9.gif ), so that they can edge other brands. just compare the corolla 1.6 of those day and the ford / pug / or other conti's...but now, some japs are confident enough that they just packed something and they are confident customer will buy it just because of the brand shakehead.gif . GM today, is no longer the car manufacturer so sells the most car, but toyota. to continue to lean down the cost and gain more profit, just compare the vios. basically, it's a face lift to a dugong version, replace by electric power steering......anything more significant? a simple package, but toyota die hard fans will still buy it blink.gif . if we dun say die die want a toyota, we see more option around us...Avanza??? sighhh.... blush.gif

if you are a sport fans, for RM300 bucks, will you buy a Nike or a asics running shoe? I believe a lot here will opt for the bet value for money and some will opt for the name. just a personal preference, no right or wrong.

this is just my oppinion,some japs brand with range of product we have in malaysia are over rated, and it is that way for a reason, someones failure might be another persons opportunity. if compare an open market, we do have a choice......at the end of the day, the individual still have the right to his or her own personal prefrence...his/ her own money... whistling.gif
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post Jan 23 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Jan 23 2009, 08:34 AM)
The Avanza, City and Vios is for SEA market and the quality expectation is different furthemore they're in different category from Waja/Civic/Altis/Latio/Sentra.

What i'm trying to said is those Japs did not over confident, over rated neither sacrifies their quality, all their car are even better from 90's. I would suggest you to have a test drive with Latio/Altis/Sentra, then u tell us what is your opinion.


Added on January 23, 2009, 8:37 am

4G18 is all using MMC ECU.
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i have driven the Latio/Altis/Sentra. I agree they have good quality, in fact i like the Latio the most among the 3. Compare back to the models from the 90's, of course lah they are better, the tech is already newer. What i am saying is, if you compare models at 90's it-self (only among models during the 90's), and you compare the models for now only, the Latio/Sentra/Altis are not packaged impresively. During the 90's, the Japs try very hard. I am not saying they don't try hard now, just that, i think it's fair to say "only I think" they did not try as hard as they do before to please the customer already.

and I didn't mentioned they sacrifice their quality......I mentioned, most of the Malaysian over-rated the Japs model we have in Malaysia......insisting to buy a Japs just because it's a Japs. blush.gif



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