In Ferguson's case, those was the first 7 years he is incharge wit MU. After that he has been winning at least 1 trophy every seasons but for AW, he was winning some trophies until Chelsea emerged as the competitor 4 years ago. Why can't he do the same thing anymore?

About Klinsmann, he has been in the squad management from 2006 & he first managed Germany. He is the one who revived Germany to be top contender in Europe again.

FYI, Bayern &  Hoffenheim are having the same points.

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Added on January 23, 2009, 10:16 pm
If Liverpool was the Golden Son, then they should have won the CL last season right? Wht happen then?
May be Liverpool fans can clarify this...

arshavin alone is not enough...we need at least 2-5 players if we want a decent performance...not by this Diaby,Song,Eboue,Denilson..oh tbh almunia is on the list too...sad...get rid of em....they're all CRAP players!

I expected a draw already since Everton is doing really well this season.

Now,seriously i think Wenger need to shift the midfield into a better combination such as Wilshere/Nasri/Ramsey/Vela kind of thing although is not proven to work.

No point you say that here.. The fans here don't care even if Arsenal get relegated from EPL because for them Arsenal is doing "good".
AW is also stubborn with his policy..

Time to change the manager & throw out some bunch of useless players from the team. This wil only happen when the new owner takes over Arsenal.

Are u an idiot? AW is the one who choose those useless players & not the board of directors or the fans..
So AW needs to take the blame too..

U can get lost if ur feeling fedup.. I don't give damn abt it

When did i say FM is similliar to football life? Go & check your eyes first before posting here..

He was a good manager till Viera left the club.
AW season is already over. Time for him to retire from the football world.
New REVOLUTION is needed for Arsenal

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Added on January 29, 2009, 5:36 pm
I know u don't care even Arsenal gets relegated from EPL.

If AW knows wht he is doing, then why is the team performing badly?

Wht is the use of scout?

Talking abt Diaby, if his performances is going down, time to offload him & get a better player. That's the job of a manager.
You don't use rubbish players to win cups! Understand.
AW has not been doing that at the moment but he is keep talking high like the team is so superb..

You tell me, after 2005 FA cup, wht cup did AW won? I don't want to hear abt the CL final, points collection in EPL or the financial status because success of a team is measured by number of trophies.
Your attitude is rubbish. Your knowledge is rubbish. Even your English is rubbish & your thinking is rubbish too...

Definition of Scout: Someone employed to discover and recruit talented persons (especially in the worlds of entertainment or sports)

Understand the word talented? go & google up!
A talent that Messi, Ronaldo, Fabregas, Rooney, Torres & Aguero has at this young age.

Since Diaby is doing bad, why the heck is he the 1st choice?
Shouldn't he be benched?
By getting a new & better vision manager, he would be able to close all the loop hole in the current squad.
The current team is not balanced in terms of age & experience. Plus under performing players needs to be sold & getting the right player to play at the right position!
Just like wht Pep Guardiola is doing in Barca..

haha... Good to hear your loosing patience JACKASSSSSSSSSSSSS

You don't everytime get perfect world class player but you can always buy the right one if there is money just like MU.
All managers hv signed flop players but it doesn't make the team flop badly like Arsenal. That's why we hv Jan transfer window to cover the problems during the seasons.

If it's disrupting the harmony of the team, offload the black sheep in the team that is causing the problem..

A question for u, how sure are u AW can revive the club for the 2nd time with these current players?

who are u to ask me to go & support MU?

Signing good players are not easy but if Arsenal is as rich as Man City, I am sure that's not an issue...

Mourinho was forced to buy Shevchenko by Roman. Mourinho never wanted him in the squad.

Not all the players in the team are performing badly. It's good to have a good player in the team rather than circulling with same useless player every season.

Off course..
Wht for u keep useless player.
U think like Rafa keeping Keane in the bench?

for the moment, the best strikers that suits Arsenal play style is David Villa or Torres

Arshavin...deal confirmed today.    Next is charles zogbia.. 

All this talk of potential signings for strikers got me thinking...

... Are we purchasing Arshavin to play on the wings, or perhaps we will turn him into an out and out striker?

Think about it...

Our past squad had lots of pace in the form of Henry, Pires and Ljungberg. Henry's role was to drift wide and draw defenders out from the middle in order to create space for Pires and Freddie to cut in and exploit. Er... of course the great man did more than this, but that goes without saying!

Granted when Walcott is fit, he has that blistering pace but for the time being lacks the decision-making and composure in front of goal. Nasri has done well in the Pires role, but is usually more effective at home. Much like Pires, I think we will see his full potential in his 2nd season.

It is upfront that we are lacking the pace and ball carrying ability. RVP has the skills to beat his man, but he does this more with trickery and than speed. Besides, I notice that he tends to drop back rather than drift wide when he plays for the club. Adebayor has the pace and can dribble, but its nowhere close to Henry's level while lately he also tends to drop back.

Arshavin has the pace, the trickery and the skills as we have seen from various YouTube videos. His finishing is not too bad as well. I can't recall if he's left footed or right footed, but if he is currently a winger, I can see him fitting the Henry role of drifting wide with Samir and Theo cutting in.

Come on Arsene, let's close that 10%!!

I suggested Arshavin as a striker is assuming that Cesc returns from injury. That's where our main source of creativity is. Nothing wrong with Ade and RVP combo, but I was watching the Henry DVD yesterday and my god we played so different back then. Pace, counter attacking and often with Henry beating the offside trap and turning on the afterburners to beat the last defender, then score calmly in a one-on-one with the GK. I believe Arshavin has similar qualities in terms of pace and high-speed dribbling, hence the theory. Its just a theory of course... I'm not a prem league coach by any means!

But anyway, here's my take on your suggestion: -

I don't watch a lot of Serie A, but IINM Milan plays a 4-3-3 with Gattuso/Ambrosini as the anchor with /Pirlo/Seedorf/Becks to choose from for the other two midfield positions. The front three would be Pato and Inzaghi filling the strikers position with Kaka as the link man.

If we do the same, then it will be Denilson/Diaby/Song in the anchor (no better choice is there?), Cesc in the Pirlo role of playmaker and Nasri supporting. RVP and Ade up front and Arshavin as the link man as you suggest.

Sounds good and may actually work... But are our guys good enough to control the midfield against teams who play predominantly 4-4-2 and 4-5-1? That's the key. In a defensive situation where Cesc and Nasri are drawn out wide to help the fullbacks against attacking wingers and fullbacks, I shrudder to think what will happen with Denilson/Diaby/Song in the middle... alone...

guys, seriously how do you guys rate Arshavin?

He is 27 years old and if he is good enough I am sure he left zenit in his early 20s already.

He won't need to wait until the recent Euro to shine. I personally like the way he bring Russia in the recent Euro but call me pessimist, I am afraid he turn out to be another Francis Jeffers, 1 out of 10 AW good buy is a failure.