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post Nov 10 2010, 12:40 AM

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Buy quick before MCL notice the cheap price and change it tongue.gif
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post Nov 10 2010, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Nov 10 2010, 12:40 AM)
Buy quick before MCL notice the cheap price and change it tongue.gif
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Haha, true. I expect it about 450+ when i read it's spec and price it based on how they pricing g15 and g110.
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post Nov 10 2010, 11:51 AM

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Logitech Illuminated RM239 in All IT..
is it OK price or can get cheaper elsewhere?
or with the price range i better go 4 other model? Like G110 etc..

any recommendation?
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post Nov 10 2010, 12:05 PM

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depends whether if you need the macros and additional stuff. if yes, then G110 is a good choice. otherwise, the illuminated keyboard is not a bad choice either.
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post Nov 10 2010, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Nov 10 2010, 11:51 AM)
Logitech Illuminated RM239 in All IT..
is it OK price or can get cheaper elsewhere?
or with the price range i better go 4 other model? Like G110 etc..

any recommendation?
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I will compare like this la, illuminated keyboard is something like lycosa.
G110 is at different grade already, how come you compare them, the fulfill different needs.
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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 10 2010, 12:35 PM)
I will compare like this la, illuminated keyboard is something like lycosa.
G110 is at different grade already, how come you compare them, the fulfill different needs.
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bcoz i'm not so gud with keyboard stuff sweat.gif
what u mean by different grade on G110? coz the price is rm209 bit cheaper than illuminated..TQ
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post Nov 10 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 10 2010, 02:42 AM)
Haha, true. I expect it about 450+ when i read it's spec and price it based on how they pricing g15 and g110.
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that is also the reason I'm so getting it haha tongue.gif
the price is just so worth it!

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post Nov 10 2010, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Nov 10 2010, 04:38 PM)
bcoz i'm not so gud with keyboard stuff sweat.gif
what u mean by different grade on G110? coz the price is rm209 bit cheaper than illuminated..TQ
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Because they serve different type of user, G110 is go for those gamers are using quite alot of macro like in WOW.
Illuminated is good for office use, use in dark, normal gaming usage but without any special feature also.
Since you budgeted spend that much in keyboard, now i suggest you wait for Razer BlackWindow and try it first, that keyboard much more worth your money. (i think so)
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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 10 2010, 09:47 PM)
Because they serve different type of user, G110 is go for those gamers are using quite alot of macro like in WOW.
Illuminated is good for office use, use in dark, normal gaming usage but without any special feature also.
Since you budgeted spend that much in keyboard, now i suggest you wait for Razer BlackWindow and try it first, that keyboard much more worth your money. (i think so)
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OK noted bro..thanx 4 the explaination...sometimes i getting dizzy with all selection available for keyboards + mouses
so many...i'll keep my eye on BlackWindow later....
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post Nov 11 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:50 PM)
OK noted bro..thanx 4 the explaination...sometimes i getting dizzy with all selection available for keyboards + mouses
so many...i'll keep my eye on BlackWindow later....
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Just noted something from Razer thread, BW original is 2KRO.
So if you using laptop can't use the USB to PS/2 converter, then it will be very problematic.

Forumer Iphone4lover mentioned it failed on zxc together.
If you using sf in dota and press both skill together, it also won't work. ^^
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post Nov 11 2010, 12:19 AM

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you can't use zxc in the same time if you're playing SF
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:09 AM

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Old school keyboard is the best. No worries of stuck keys tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Nov 11 2010, 12:19 AM)
you can't use zxc in the same time if you're playing SF
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Can 1, you try press it together. The different time for for your pressing which only few ms will decide which skill first, then it will be casted 1 after another, i always almost press them simultaneously.
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 01:11 AM)
Can 1, you try press it together. The different time for for your pressing which only few ms will decide which skill first, then it will be casted 1 after another, i always almost press them simultaneously.
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this is a bit off topic, but WHY would you want to cast 3 simultaneously, a good SF always time and aim his raze, not all 3 at once.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Nov 11 2010, 01:39 AM)
this is a bit off topic, but WHY would you want to cast 3 simultaneously, a good SF always time and aim his raze, not all 3 at once.
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3 together of cause very rare and don't think happened to me before as well.
But 2 together is possible, always do that as specially i am on the cliff, go to the range both X and C and hit target without go into opponent's sight.
2 continuous casting gives 600 damages into the battle zone.

Other than that, some time no really only aiming 1 hero right, there can be few hero in 1 line.

If ZXC is failing, it will fail a lot of warkey user as well. SF cant raze immediately after blink is very headache problem.
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post Nov 11 2010, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 01:48 AM)
3 together of cause very rare and don't think happened to me before as well.
But 2 together is possible, always do that as specially i am on the cliff, go to the range both X and C and hit target without go into opponent's sight.
2 continuous casting gives 600 damages into the battle zone.

Other than that, some time no really only aiming 1 hero right, there can be few hero in 1 line.

If ZXC is failing, it will fail a lot of warkey user as well. SF cant raze immediately after blink is very headache problem.
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if I can play without any problem using a cheapo 30bucks membrane keyboard, I don't see what's the problem?
You're over stating the issue here.

look, Logitech G110, G15V2, G15V1, G11, Illuminated Keyboard, and more here (scroll down to "Gamer Optimized" section), all are 2NKRO, but do you see users complaining about it?

No, because they're "Gamer Optimized" keyboard, the same can be said for BW, its ASDW cluster works, stop over exaggerating this issue.
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post Nov 11 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Nov 11 2010, 02:00 AM)
if I can play without any problem using a cheapo 30bucks membrane keyboard, I don't see what's the problem?
You're over stating the issue here.

look, Logitech G110, G15V2, G15V1, G11, Illuminated Keyboard, and more here (scroll down to "Gamer Optimized" section), all are 2NKRO, but do you see users complaining about it?

No, because they're "Gamer Optimized" keyboard, the same can be said for BW, its ASDW cluster works, stop over exaggerating this issue.
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Ya the list shown all those G110 bla bla bla are also 2KRO keyboards.
But did you read all of it?
After the KRO number, they giving the keys combination that can't be pressed together, they got no problem probably because such thing called anti-ghosting effect also.
They are optimize designed for those usual keys combination. If the previously the info that say bw is fail in ZXC then is different case already.

Anyway, wait it arrive and try is best way.
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post Nov 11 2010, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 02:23 AM)
Ya the list shown all those G110 bla bla bla are also 2KRO keyboards.
But did you read all of it?
After the KRO number, they giving the keys combination that can't be pressed together, they got no problem probably because such thing called anti-ghosting effect also.
They are optimize designed for those usual keys combination. If the previously the info that say bw is fail in ZXC then is different case already.

Anyway, wait it arrive and try is best way.
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I read all of it, but the question is did you? you stated most are 6KRO earlier when they're actually 2KRO.

even if ZXC ghosting is true, it isn't a problem to me still, as I don't use the 3 of them together in any games anyway.
the "anti-ghosting" you mentioned is the "gamer optimized" mentioned in the article, just different names calling.

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post Nov 11 2010, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Nov 11 2010, 02:54 AM)
I read all of it, but the question is did you? you stated most are 6KRO earlier when they're actually 2KRO.

even if ZXC ghosting is true, it isn't a problem to me still, as I don't use the 3 of them together in any games anyway.
the "anti-ghosting" you mentioned is the "gamer optimized" mentioned in the article, just different names calling.
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I stated MOST are 6KRO..not all, maybe some misunderstood or misleading, lot of 10 bucks keyboard in the market can handles 6 keys.
All keyboards in my history that i used myself ( means not referencing to any source, personal issue), none of them causing same problem like lycosa. So hope the same thing come into BW also.

I don't know why the manufacturer make them 2KRO, maybe for certain purpose.
No offend, but i think it's not affecting you unnecessary not affecting others?
The argue i think simply because i am playing SDO and you are not, so it become very noticeable to me.

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post Nov 11 2010, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 03:10 AM)
No offend, but i think it's not affecting you unnecessary not affecting others?
The argue i think simply because i am playing SDO and you are not, so it become very noticeable to me.
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Yes, which is exactly why I am trying to point out a different point of view to you,
the 2KRO issue might be significant for you, but it isn't for others,
so it really isn't as bad as what you made it out to be. smile.gif

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