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TSzarnall
post Jan 6 2009, 04:25 PM, updated 17y ago

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dear Console Couch;

It's me(zarnall) again, u might remember me a while back from the survey I did (Malaysian Console Gamers Survey)(Yea that was really fun and helpful), which I'm very really grateful for all the kind support shown and great enthusiasm displayed which I enjoyed during the survey period, Mucho Thanks again.

With the data that you've contributed, I've seen the grief that we, Malaysian Console Gamers are really concerned about, GAME TITLE PRICES, it's just too EXPENSIVE for a regular Joe or Jill gamer here in Malaysia.
You would like to enjoy better internet capability to enjoy playing online game for efficiently.
You're just sick and tired of being duped all the time.

So I'm back with my next project; <Online Game Rental Service>or we can call it as <radioactive monkey> for short(lol).
I need another round of help from you guys because I'm bringing this idea/business plan to MDEC in hopes to land a Pre Seed Technoprenuer Fund Grant for RM150,000. I'm coming over to bug console couch again because I need your help to show this support so I will show this to the panel of Techno fund Grant come pitch presentation day where I go and wow them in 10 minutes.

With great humility I'll try to give you a brief explanation on what it is;

/start presentation

What is Radioactive monkey?

This is what we offer at radioactive monkey:

1 - We are offering our subscribers a rental service that gives the subscriber to hold up to 3 game titles for as long as they want with a charge of 2 - RM 50-80 per month for subscription.
3 - We will send the titles right to your doorstep.
4 - You can keep the titles for as long as you want.
5 - You can switch titles with us when you like whenever you want.
6 - If you want to keep one of the titles, you can buy it from us and we will send you the original box with another game title DVD from your wish list.
7 - Radioactive monkey covers all the shipping charges, to and fro.
8 - All payments will be charged with the credit card.

TLDR Version:
A rental service for Console games to all our subscribers in Malaysia.

How does it work?
>> Register @our sexy Website
>> Subscribe RM(50-85)
>> create game wish list
>> Receive 3 titles@one time
>> change the titles whenever
>> No late fees EVER!
>> No shipping EVER!
>> Become "Happy Gamer"!

Our main Hub hub an Online Store with a vast multitude of game titles that spans on all 3 7th gen consoles that are the Microsoft XBOX360, the Sony PS3 and the Nintendo Wii.

We guarantee 3 things:

1 - Original and genuine games to be enjoyed
2 - No Shipping charges for subscribers
3 - No late fees for subscribers

/end Presentation

Why are you doing this?
Pissed off mainly, with all the piracy action rampant in the country, I can't enjoy online content with my console without burning a hefty sum of cash every time I have the urge to get a game title.
Pissed off with the government support, they've never really thought on how to combat piracy, and instead punishing all the consumers with insane prices for something trivial like a original game title.
To help the average console gamer who owns a XBOX360,PS3 or Wii with their game urges and instead of thinking of buying it, he'll just get it with out much concern.
To help push the average guy that is thinking of getting a console but isn't willing to splash much cash on the games.
I'm just here giving u an opportunity to choose, you could either buy original, buy pirated or rent original without hurting your wallet while enjoying a buffet of game titles.

Why are you posting here?
Well Firstly, it's because console couch is the place of where most of the Malaysian console gamers congregate so it’s a great target audience for me.
You've helped in shaping the market response with your help on my survey.
I need your help for support, flames, questions or even suggestions.
I have no real life friends. (LF GF!)

With that being said, I've made a poll whether you would be a radioactivemonkey subscriber in this post. Show MDEC how many of us wants the change!

Please visit the teaser site @ www.radioactivemonkey.net spread the word around.
A breeze is coming, and it's bringing change, so get ready to fly! Fly my monkeys! /evil laugh!

Oh yea one more thing; I'd like for you guys to be part of this so we're giving out 100 beta user keys(it’s free of charge btw!). I've hidden the invite on the site, hope you guys are good with “where's waldo” games, lol.
With a beta key, you would enjoy 1 title a month with 1 change a week for 3 months. So that’s 2 games a week, 8 games a month and a grand total of 24 GAME TITLES TO BE PLAYED BY OUR BETA MONKEY USERS!

Phew, that was hard. Thanks again guys, keep this thread bumped and spread the word around. I'm going back to my Devil May Cry game, the only original game that I really enjoyed during my shopping spree for original titles. C’mon Rank B Devil Hunter, Save the hot chick!


Regards,
Zarnall

This post has been edited by zarnall: Jan 6 2009, 04:29 PM
TSzarnall
post Jan 6 2009, 04:47 PM

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Any thoughts or questions or suggestions or watever? I'd like to know why you voted yes or no. It would help me tremendously. smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(unrealweapon @ Jan 6 2009, 04:51 PM)
[wta]

what happens if you fail to impress the panels?
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We will start from the ground up by ourselves i suppose. Apply for bank loans, get the distributors to agree to some form revenue sharing, organise LAN parties to help move the gaming culture into Malaysia. hmm.gif

btw, it would be nice to hear reasons on why you wouldn't be a subscriber. smile.gif


Added on January 6, 2009, 5:05 pm
QUOTE(samurai20 @ Jan 6 2009, 04:59 PM)
arhh cant register.. tongue.gif.. anyway good luck... smile.gif
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U gotta take a closer look with your eyes, it's just there. nod.gif

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post Jan 6 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 6 2009, 05:10 PM)
I hope I'm not going to sound evil by giving out my opinion and I do hope you could improve on this part.

First off, this is great. Honestly, to get the support is tough, but if you can really pull of something huge, then by all means go for it and don't stop.

But my real gripe is actually on the rental service that you are providing. Certain games will have the End User License Agreement stated in their games that the title is not meant to be resold or rented. This is a problem. If you plan to execute a rental service, you're gonna have to talk to the bigwigs too around the world.

Honestly, I am not trying to shoot you down, but I'm just afraid if you get in trouble later with the law.
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Ah i love u for this; i've forgotten to inform you all what makes us different from any other pirate; It's these beautiful 3 words, First Sale Doctrine

Here's a link to wiki about it. First Sale Doctrine Wiki

Basically wat it says is that : -

First Sale Doctrine is normally understood as a limitation on the copyright owner's exclusive distribution right, so it allows the purchaser to make further distributions of the specific object -- book, DVD, etc. -- that has been legally acquired.

In other words, once you've acquired a lawfully-made CD or book or DVD, you can lend, sell, or give it away without having to get permission from the copyright owner. In simpler terms, "you bought it, you own it"

We also did pursue some legal advise from numerous of local lecturers from Universities around Malaysia and they’ve confirmed with the statement that “copyright law does not restrict the owner of a copy from reselling legitimately obtained copies of copyright works, provided that those copies were originally produced by or with the permission of the copyright holder.

But thats a great question bro, thanks. Keep them coming guys.


Added on January 6, 2009, 5:28 pm
QUOTE(unrealweapon @ Jan 6 2009, 05:14 PM)
Questions..

1. Will economy crisis affect your business?
economy crisis is why we came out with these idea
people dont have to spend a lot of money


2. How well do you think Malaysians will accept your vision?
If we could provide them a top notch service... im sure they will accept it with an open hands

3. Will piracy affect your business?
This idea is to beat piracy, the plus points of genuine game is online content, multiplayer, and exposure to players from across world. I just want the world to know that Malaysia is now a FREE PIRATE ZONE. to that extend yea.

4. Games like GTA4.. if the price tag for a piece is RM190, 100 people wants to borrow it, meaning you will need 100 copies
unless they have deposit(not stated), you may gonna face 100 runaways. How are you going to cop with this problem ?
(since you only charge monthly subscription fees.)
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Ah...thats trade secret lol, but the geniuses on my team have figured it out. Begs the question, are u interested in funding us? We can talk more, pm me. but seriously ... we are not gonna share that.. sorry.  sweat.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 6 2009, 05:28 PM)
Ah, great work dude! Since the law already originates from the US, US titles won't be a problem for you to get convicted. The next step you should consider is also looking at how detailed the copyright law in Malaysia also states. That way, people can't harm you. biggrin.gif
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Yea, I've confered with a lecturer here in Malaysia (can't give out his name, though w.o permission and all that), here the his quoted email;

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It is good to note that  you are well informed about certain legal issues like copyright or intellectual property law. Anyway, I am glad that you have shown a keen interest regarding your position as a consumer who bought original DVDs and would like to know whether you can profit from that based on Malaysian laws i.e. selling or renting them out. For your information, the 'First-Sale Doctrine and 'Exhaustion of Rights' concepts do apply in Malaysia as well. These two phrases are used interchangeably under Malaysian intellectual property law while dealing with or addressing copyright issues. For example, copyright law does not restrict the owner of a copy from reselling legitimately obtained copies of copyright works, provided that those copies were originally produced by or with the permission of the copyright holder. Hence, it is therefore legal for you to profit out of your DVDs by renting or reselling them. Please refer to the Malaysian Copyright Act 1987, Copyright (Amendment) Act 1997 and Copyright (Amendment) Act 2002. Probably you can also make reference to the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works where Malaysia is a member. Bye and I wish you all the best and good luck.



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post Jan 6 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(unrealweapon @ Jan 6 2009, 05:33 PM)
i am VERY interested on how you are going to present your ideas ONLY tongue.gif seriously.
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To be honest, I'm gonna with everything I've got;

Show wat the current situation is here in Malaysia, convince them that gaming is a tremendous force to be hold and ala steve jobs tell them whats instore for them in future if this gets funded.

Btw i really appreciate ur input, shows to me that you're a very good consumer like most all gamers that live in this pirate infested land, sorry to come all strong like that. It's just crazy to buy pirated goods if you could get the same enjoyment of a genuine game experience with us, thats why i think we should get funded.
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post Jan 6 2009, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(bobby85 @ Jan 6 2009, 05:41 PM)
actually ur service is a very much convenient way for us to enjoy original games at a so much affordable price....to tell u honestly....if we buy a new game...after playing...sell it off....we lose about rm 40 to rm80 bucks for each game.....i rather channel those money for your rental service....the least i can get is i can try/ply all those games tat i want from u....without losing so much money....and if i reli prefer the game that i played...i can just straight ahead buy it from u....it's a reli good service tat u're providing here....dunno wad other's are thinking...but from my point of view...kudos to u....keep up the good work...and reli hope that your business plan works out and get all the support that u needed. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yea, i guess you the idea. Thanks for the support. notworthy.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(anyme @ Jan 6 2009, 06:14 PM)
found it and already register it......so what the next action..
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wait and be patient and you'll be contacted by monkey email :-)



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post Jan 7 2009, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 6 2009, 08:07 PM)
no credit card over here.
i guess that means im screwed? tongue.gif
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This will make you wanna apply for a card.

Lol.


Added on January 7, 2009, 12:20 am
QUOTE(kazasho @ Jan 6 2009, 11:43 PM)
like that...COOL laugh.gif

but I support if the price is good. later can pm nod.gif
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Very nice!

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post Jan 7 2009, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jan 6 2009, 09:15 PM)
im in because u are cool.  what if someone subscribe and then when he get his 3 games he pass it to his friends and his friends pay him part of the subscription fee ?  let say rm 50-85 divided by 3 ?   so the 3 friends play the game at a third of the fee .  have u think about this part of the service ?
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That's the user creativeness, as long as they pay the subscription, it's ok i suppose. But it would be kinda useless, tbh, i'm offering a subscription plan for 3 titles at one time with changes with shipping covered.

This plan is less expensive than most of us spend on our monthly telco bill. icon_idea.gif


Added on January 7, 2009, 2:13 amAt this moment, the site only records the email addresses, we will extend a reply in the near future. Sorry blush.gif

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post Jan 7 2009, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Jan 7 2009, 01:10 PM)
try for next intake..  thumbup.gif
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Yup, we should get more startups to be funded by the government! go and be somebody..../slap! flex.gif
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post Jan 15 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Evirober @ Jan 15 2009, 06:51 PM)
foowah..saw the secret invite....

what an eye opener
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Hahaha thanks so much.

Proposal sent, now I'm jsut waiting to be called for the interview. Wish me luck.
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:38 AM

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Sup guys,

Been a while since I've bumped.
We got shortlisted. Now it's just another QnA session tomorrow.

So i guess tomorrow is sort off like D-Day for us, make or break!

Wish us luck!

-Zarnall-
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post Feb 10 2009, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(viledante @ Feb 10 2009, 05:17 PM)
wow, good luck zarnall! I wish u the best!
hope this work out thumbup.gif
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Thanks. blush.gif

The presentation went great, my friend gave a superb presentation.

I'll know the result tomorrow sweat.gif

Till then, i'm a nervous wreck lol. rclxub.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(ravemaster @ Feb 10 2009, 09:06 PM)
Online Game Rental Service called radioactive monkey? that is not cool naame bro. call it OGRES, better name tongue.gif j/k only bro. anyway all the best n goodluck smile.gif
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Hahaha. Ogres, not bad man. But i like mutant radioactive monkeys lol. reminds me of those flying monkeys from alice in wonderland. FLY MY MONKEYS!

 

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