Its about time this service comes to Malaysia.
If all other countries have online renting service why do we not have this.

I'm going to support you guys, it does solve most of the problems. But do make sure the pricing is right!!!

Piracy is what happened when you screw with poor people long enough!!!

Can you confirm me an INVITE????


Wow... thurtin what a long post.... Come on,dude!! do you really think this is a new idea and bother with the LEGALITIES?

Here are the list of countries that have variable of these kinda service COMMERCIALLY:

United States,Canada,Mexico,Brazil,Argentina,Jamaica,United Kingdom, Switzerland,Germany,Ireland,Denmark,Sweden,Norway,Slovenia,
Turkey,Spain,Australia,New Zealand,Singapore,India,Japan,South Africa

I don't see any of them in a LEGAL ROW while Malaysia in other hand try googling Malaysia + Piracy. It records about 883,000 hits in 0.25 sec most of them pointed to us being BAD.

thurtin"Malaysia is so insignificant to most publishers, they really can't be bothered about what we do". Seriously thurrin we are so insignificant? Where do you get that? You just farted it out?

"Malaysia is the primary source of pirated optical disc entertainment software in the world," said Douglas

Lowenstein, president of the ESA, the trade association representing U.S. computer and video game publishers." The

prevalence of pirate production and export from the country hinders the development of legitimate entertainment

software markets in target export countries, and makes it extremely difficult for game publishers to establish

legitimate markets in those areas ( It looks like maybe there are some OPENING for you guys after all).While Malaysia

remains the primary country of concern for the computer and video game industry,..... ah i am not gonna spoon feed you ...google...

Wow, so much for INSIGNIFICANT.

More of this piracy issues:

http://tinyurl.com/9x28q3 (Gamespot)
http://tinyurl.com/9cunmg (TechCentral)

At least your service shows that our country are trying to suggest a solution for our Markets rather than pirated stuff. Because i think piracy is a result of a Market Failure.

Thurtin, i am NO LAWYER, hell im not even good at LAW but quoted from you which you quoted from wikipedia "The doctrine of first sale does not include renting and leasing phonorecords and certain types of computer software" keyword CERTAIN meaning it should be a SUBSET of a Computer Software keyword again COMPUTER.

I don't think video games is a computer software because if it is: GAMEFLY not Gamestop or EBGames (I don't think they rent games http://tinyurl.com/8y28r2 ) or GAMINGHOW (Singapore) to name just a few service (yeah, there is MORE! Google!!),would be like you said A LEGIT BUSINESS. Please check both of them and observe they only rent-out console games just like these guys wanted to do, but NO COMPUTER Games. Why? Uh... Maybe because Computer Games is COMPUTER software and fell into the SUBSET of a computer software and makes it illegal to rent. But there is always Valve STEAM for computer games.

Now just for the sake of argument thurtin is right (NOT!!), video games falls under computer software which i think is highly unlikely, Singapore GamingHow is up & running and obviously get the developers approval i doubt that you guys can't. Singapore population is 4 million plus the last time i checked and with Kuala Lumpur and Penang you guys will easily level the population margin.

Or your service only extends KLANG VALLEY if i may ask ???

And with piracy rampant in our country i doubt the government (MDEC is a government owned mind you) and the publishers are AGAINST you guys. The government get the tax and the publisher would make a profit. Everyone is happy.

Dude, take my advice don't worry bout the LEGAL shit.... There are so many PIRACY here and i think Sony, Microsoft would want to ally with you guys to get a cut of the profit.IMHO from their pov (point of view) if they could reduce piracy and increase the profit, why shouldn't they.I mean that's what business all about isn't it? If your Idea does create a solution to piracy, i really really wonder why all the developers will wanna shoot you down. Its not like they are making money out of Malaysia currently? What are they going to LOSE? Piracy is already rampant, they are losing money currently and from the way i see it your solution does make some if not more money for them.

"i would be very surprised if you got the funding honestly. the seed fund is about aiding local technopreneurs create

made in malaysia IPs that is of value and marketable to the rest of the world" thurtin

Now now you are applying for MDEC?. Come on, not to demoralise you Son, i heard MDEC or prior MDC from 1998. It is now 2009, 11 years has passes by does MDEC fund any paradigm-shifting, curve-jumping,first-moving, patent-pending, world changing techno ideas? I don't think SO!!!...In analogy, If i would have done half bad on my 11 years of schooling i would get thrown out of school. Its a surprise they still seems to get paid evaluating people. Hey it is government owned, what do you expect?

Maybe the problem lies in "value and marketable to the rest of the world", but most if not all of the tech world movers only solve their own problems they had at the moment, which surprise surprise the rest of the world had but doesn't seems to realize. That is why the tech movers and shakers are so successful. What the problems most of you have the rest of the world most likely will experience the same problem too. Just solve it and if it is really good maybe you will get to be marketable for the rest of the world.

Now lets make a scenario here, with people Ala (thurtin) as the evaluator of MDEC funding division shall we:

Scenario A

Back in the days,One guy comes up to them and say "i want to create this perfect market economics where people can

sell used HP printers online."

The first thing they'll say "If im the buyer how would i know the printer works, if im the seller how would i know i

get paid and how would i know people doesn't sell ILLEGAL items?"

And his idea get shot down.

There goes Pierre Omidyar and Ebay Idea down the toilet.

Scenario B

Two teenagers comes up to the division and say "Yeah, you know we wanna build the tenth Search Engine. Forget that

theres Inktomi, theres Altavista, Forget that theres Yahoo, just put them all aside".

They get shot down.

There goes Larry Page and Sergey Brin of the Google idea.

Scenario C

Then three guys comes to technofund and say "Well, we need unlimited bandwidth,unlimited server space so that people

can steal videos and upload it. And once in a while there will be some original stuff,like we thought that there is

huge market potential for videos featuring Mentos and Diet Coke, we see that as a growth market. And currently we have

no way to make money out of the service. Why don't you guys come and fund us."

They are DEFINITELY gonna get turn down.

That's Steve Chen, Chad Hurley and Jawed Karim of YOUTUBE.com


And then these people are talking about funding world class ideas.DELUSIONAL case.Seriously they wouldn't know a paradigm-shifting, curve-jumping,first-moving, patent-pending, world changing ideas if it smacks them in the face. These guys are paid people, working just like most of us, they are not People experience in building a successful world class or even maybe local companies. If they can identify great ideas maybe they already started it out already.
Even Kleiner & Perkins had the problems of identifying great or even good ideas.

IMHO is for you guys to bootstrap your venture and start small. Once you get the traction try get some business loans or a proper VC to go along.


I do think these guys are trying to SOLVE their own problems although not an ORIGINAL Idea but does anyone have original ideas nowadays.Quit looking for one, and just look at the ideas that solve people problems, and make our life easier.Kudos for trying that.
And guess what, maybe hundred of thousand people out there have/had the same problem and would opt for their solution. I for one would, and please please please do make sure the pricing is right again.


Thank You for READING!!!

Thurtin less posting, more READING! Books that is....