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Nokia ♪★Nokia XpressMusic 5800 "TUBE" V3★♪, MORE than 100++ TUBIANS in LYN now!!!

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post Jan 6 2009, 10:14 AM

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Wah lau! Pana! Finally got V3 liao! Congratulations! thumbup.gif

Really fast moving thread...
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post Jan 6 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(hestia @ Jan 6 2009, 09:38 PM)
i got the email from nokia already!
rm1499 with the bh600...
but then only when stocks last...
i wonder how many stocks they have...
if only 100pcs, then gone lah. biggrin.gif
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Probably not much I guess. But still they may reserve some for the launching too. smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(hellwaker @ Jan 6 2009, 09:43 PM)
any sifu can teach me how to restore back up. I have back up all to my MMC, after soft reset how to retore back? tq
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Go back to File Manager --> Backup. Then options and restore.
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Jan 6 2009, 09:58 PM)
160 is a good buy bcos i try it at Pavilion last month with N96 and sound is superb..maybe bocs is wired and how about BT503..anyone try out?
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Yeah I wonder how is the quality and battery life too. It should have a built-in DAC and I wonder if it has a signal amplifier.
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Jan 6 2009, 10:15 PM)
thanks bro  smile.gif
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And also... www.imserba.com tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(hellwaker @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM)
Where can I get the dictionary package for talking dictionary?I have soft reset the fone and install talking dictionary but application won't launch cuase there were no dictionary package.
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Did you check from Nokia's software support for the phone? Usually there'll be a dictionary database for you to download.
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Jan 6 2009, 10:42 PM)
so u gonna spend 1.3k on a brand new phone even when u know some problems exist,
then send it to NCC few days after u used it?

why not wait for the 2nd batch where the problem might be solved?
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And wait until when since we don't know when or how to differentiate the batches. I think as long as you have Nokia warranty and you're not left alone good enough liao. Otherwise don't wait. Might as well skip it. More exciting phones coming up. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(hestia @ Jan 6 2009, 10:53 PM)
this is also my problem since last night...
noob question: what does "root of memory card" mean?
talking dictionary app instruction is to cut and paste the 5 files to the "root of the memory card"
maybe this is why i get "install package" when i try and open the talking dictionary app...

whoo, took me almost 2 hrs to backread. server busy some more
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Yeah, rarely I see lowyat's server going slow and busy. Something must be wrong here.

Anyway to answer your question, 'root of the memory card' meaning the very first path you open. For example your memory card drive letter is D:. You click on D to open it. The view you see is the root.
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post Jan 6 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(johndoe2611 @ Jan 6 2009, 10:55 PM)
My post may be late but let me warn you, invisible shield will TURN YELLOW and make your phone look old and ugly. I paid $35 each for my PSP and old HP invisible shield and both turned yellow, lots of complains from other users also. I think you're better off getting a martin fields screen protector and a nice cover.
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Yeah agree. Not to mention, the material is soft so it will get temporary 'scaring' or 'marking' if you place it over rough surfaces. Also it depends how the product is pre-cut and how accurate it is cut. I bought one for my Touch Diamond and the end result wasn't attractive at all. The lines/cut makes it look bad and cheap.

Judging the lines and surfaces of the Nokia 5800, I think it'll be difficult to cover the entire phone and not have extra fragments which needs some cutting.
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QUOTE(hestia @ Jan 6 2009, 11:18 PM)
oh my, i just straight copy and yes yes yes all popups without reading.  shocking.gif so careless of me.  sweat.gif
anyway, managed to get it working. dunno about the things i have overwritten coz of my carelessness.  laugh.gif

i also tried the wallpapers suggested by pana, so nice, fits the entire screen!  thumbup.gif

now, just waiting for the perfect SP that wouldn't cause sensor problems to my tube!  whistling.gif
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Use the Skool brand, I am using it for awhile now. No problem with fitting and screen sensitivity. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rafiza @ Jan 6 2009, 11:23 PM)
1st i follow all the step....using the spectrum only...

then i pull out the earpiece with small screw drive...

then terbalikkan speaker tu nampak 2 connector...connector tu i kiaw lagi ke atas..both side...sebab bila ia terkeluar ia akan kena tepat & mampat pada board...then i pasang...superb....
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I'm gonna follow this procedure too. So no screw removals involved right? Just use plectrum to separate the top casing.
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QUOTE(rafiza @ Jan 6 2009, 11:26 PM)
not using screwdriver..just the spectrum....to pull out just using needle...but big one...


Added on January 6, 2009, 11:30 pmLittle bit nervous but start form the camera button first....slowly up to volume control side...
malaysia boleh...
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Thats great. I'll do it when I have the time. Currently the problem seem to have gone away. Has been more than a week now without the problem.
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post Jan 6 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(hellwaker @ Jan 6 2009, 11:36 PM)
David, can u post a step by step guide with pictures especially how to open it, scared the casing damage  tongue.gif
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I thought the ones posted before from Russian and Hong Kong forums had pictures with it? I think if you use plectrum to 'slit' near the camera shutter button or the lock/unlock slider should be safe. Cause there are wider gaps there to fit the plectrum. The plectrum is soft plastic so it won't damage or blunt edges of the casing. I was thinking another point of entry via the memory slots. Once you take off the memory card cover, it'll have enough space to fit your fingers/nails to separate it.
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QUOTE(rafiza @ Jan 7 2009, 12:24 PM)
To DIY no need screwdrive..just the spectrum and small screwdriver to pull out the speaker...i done it last nite..now no problem...i pull the connector more upward then fix it again...
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Yeah agreed. Its easy to disassemble. The top faceplate/casing is assembled into the main casing just like the battery cover. It has a series of latches and clips that can be opened up relatively easy. This is a cost-effective no screws required assembly. Just open up careful and slowly.

QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 7 2009, 12:31 PM)
The wifi is not as sensitive compared to a laptop. It can't hold the signal if the signal is weak. Tested thru 2 walls. My laptop is able to get a decent signal from the router but the 5800 couldn't.
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Of course not sensitive. A mobile device cannot transmit in high power due to battery constraints and the size of the antenna which is dependent on the size of the phone. It can never be compared to a laptop or a dedicated transmitter. The laptop will have higher transmit power allocation and the size of the antenna will be larger too.

Similarly, testing WIFI connection in the open is easier than inside a home with many rooms/partitions. Inside a home, not only the walls or the partitions will reduce signal strength but because of reflection from these surfaces will create multipaths. Its like two person screaming in a cave. All the echos going around, you'll get rclxub.gif AND detecting SSID's or hotspot don't count. You could detect them because the wireless access point has a more powerful antenna. Try connecting to it (if you are could), it may not be able to sustain a stable connection. Signal strength is not everything.



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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 7 2009, 01:16 PM)
so far i havent reset my phone yet.  tongue.gif
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Yup, have been running for weeks without a single problem. During the first few days of ownership, I ran into problem installing incompatible software but after I got things right, it has been 'on air' till now. tongue.gif

I found out that it is 'almost' impossible to brick the phone. I found some procedures to flash the phone in dead or non-operating conditions using Phoenix provided you have the firmware package. The firmwares are distributed by Nokia to its service centers and are available in an installation package. The package will hold the base firmware, configuration for local telcos, etc.

Have yet to try it out tongue.gif I thought of not wait for Nokia Software Update to update.
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QUOTE(cfyong2020 @ Jan 7 2009, 01:27 PM)
if i reset my phone all things will gone?
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soft reset nope. hard reset yes so backup your user data either via built-in backup utility (available at file manager and it will backup to memory card) or using PC Suite. hard reset only affects phone memory and will not affect memory card.
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QUOTE(alexchan76 @ Jan 7 2009, 02:09 PM)
ant idea the v11 for EMEA support chinese or not? I plan to update the latest firmware
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No. And the telco configurations are different too but usable. Unless you can find the language packs. Just use the EMEA for the meantime until NSU is update to support Nokia 5800. The product code should be preserved so when an update is available on NSU, it'll flash in the correct region firmware.
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QUOTE(guest321 @ Jan 7 2009, 08:48 PM)
i have a feeling that it's the sensor near the front camera that is working...when you block the sensor with your hand during calls, the LCD screen will off.
I think it's the same sensor working to silence the calls. Meaning that instead of turning the phone face down, you can close the sensor with your hand.
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I don't think so. The call silencing feature by turning it face down is supported by the accelerometer. You may double check that when a call is being received, try blocking the front facing sensors. Nothing will happen. Anyway the one next (closest to the front facing camera) is the proximity sensor. It works by emitting infrared (I guess) and then wait for the reflection from surface bouncing it off. If you look carefully, there are 2 mini-lenses (1 transmit, 1 receive). I've work with these before when I built my own line following vehicle (toy). The one furthest from the front facing camera is the light sensor.

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 7 2009, 09:04 PM)
yo Cfyong2020, i have successfully removed that naughty MSN Messenger (which doesn't work) with the help of the Y-Browser.

have you figure out how to do it?

- Install Y-Browser
- Open up Y-Browser >  E drive > Others > MSN Messenger > Option > File > Delete
- Lastly, go to Settings > Application Manager > Installed apps > Remove that MSN Messenger, once again

now the icon is gone and the MSN Messenger software is completely removed.

p/s: by the way, i bet you must have formatted your phone this afternoon, lol.
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So the Slick S60 MSN application works on the Nokia 6800???


Anyway yay! rclxm9.gif I've solved my earpiece problem! I managed to slice open the phone using the plectrum (as recommended). The phone had many dusts inside it and was shocked. Anyway, I've re-seat the speaker and re-do the contacts. Then I've placed some mini adhesive tapes (from my company) over it to keep it in place. Then I've found some mini-foam for the speaker. That way when the top casing is assembled back, the additional mini foam will press on it maintaining contact. And it works! No problems anymore.

Then I've manually flashed the latest v11 firmware on my phone using Phoenix. It was good and everything working fine. Its definitely an improvement over v10 firmware. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mugiwarabai @ Jan 7 2009, 09:34 PM)
Really??
then, there's no reason i wont buy this hone anymore.
pana, i hope u can post on how to upgrade the fw. all forumers might need it badly notworthy.gif

btw, wat screwdriver u used?
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Yes. Absolutely yes.

Anyway the firmware upgrade procedures are simple but unique. Unique in the sense, it is not the usual Nokia Software Updater. I think it is a firmware flasher utility all Nokia Service Center uses. I can post the procedures for Pana to post here. I'll write to her tomorrow.

The screwdriver used is a mini flat one, the ones you use for tightening your spectacles and mini screws. NO screwing is required, you just use the flat tip to flip the speaker off its holder. Thats it.
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QUOTE(reevephon @ Jan 7 2009, 09:46 PM)
Proudly 5800 Owners please help me out,

I'm getting this phone on hand on this coming Friday so I really need to know what should I do when got this phone,

1. Put on screen protector
2. Charge for 8 hours
3. Should I really need to do a soft reset first?
4. Woola, test kaw kaw with the features.

PS: As i know the soft reset will remove all the files that in the phone memory and if wont affect the memory card right? Another thing, the default applications such as dictionary will be automatically reinstall back right?
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Most of the contents are loaded in the 8GB micro-SD card. The contents in the phone can be restored from the ROM storage. Just remove the card when you do a soft reset. Actually there's no need to do any soft reset. When you newly receive the phone and activate it, it'll initiate the ROM which is like new. It should as good as a new hard reset.

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