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Unconventional Chic
post Apr 6 2011, 02:59 AM

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I am attached to Lacoste in Malaysia. I was checking on the effectiveness of marketing for Lacoste in Malaysia before I stumbled across this site. I can't help but to read all of the 11 pages of posting dated since 2009.

I registered after reading and as you can see, this is my first posting.

I am here to confirm 100% with you that the products sold in here are FAKE. I am impressed especially with the RED collection that is sold in here as the crocodile is getting better but still no where close to the real product. The earlier products that was offered are of a lower grade fake. This can be clearly seen by the crocodile. The real Lacoste crocodile logo is definitely the "SAME" globally. I have seen fake crocodiles with wider mouths, shorter legs, tail closer to the body, some thinner croc and some fatter croc.

Of coz there are a few ways in identifying between a REAL and a FAKE Lacoste. I am not going to share all of them in order to protect the interest of Lacoste. But one of them, as posted, is the button itself. Real Lacoste buttons are made of Mother of Pearl. You can identify this by looking at the back of the button. Another way, that you guys may have not noticed, is that the 2 holes on the button are sewn vertically.

I also would like to confirm here that there should not be 2 tags, no matter where you purchase the polo. There is ONLY 1 tag, on the polo, wether you are buying in Paris, Istanbul, Rome, New York or Japan. Many fake still carry the made in Peru because that is where the first few lacoste factories were located. But it has since evolved. With the high demand, factories are now located everywhere in the world with QC personnel just like any other luxury brands.

In terms of pricing, Singapore is definitely cheaper than us as they do not need to pay duty. However, starting Spring Summer 2011, you will find that the prices has dropped by 15% to 20% in line with the PM's announcement on the abolishment of duty in his recent Budget. The signature basic polo, L1212 would remain the same at RM299. We would not be able to drop much on the pricing due to the increase of cost for cotton. If you had visited Ralph Lauren recently, you will find that they had just increased their basic polo from RM300 to RM450. I would also foresee an increase in price this year for Lacoste in Singapore due to the increase in cotton. However, the good news is that we are not increasing, but decreasing, thanks to the abolishment of duty. Therefore, our prices would be nearly the same.

Lacoste is now currently on Sale, from 30% to 50% for the off season products. Not many left though. The basic polo with old season colors are selling at 30% discount. Again, not many color and sizes left.

As for L!VE, this is a new collection that is a continuity from RED. L!VE would eventually stand by itself as a category apart from the Lacoste mainline. L!VE is available from Spring Summer 2011 onwards and would only be found in Lacoste Sunway Pyramid boutique.

As for Outlet stores, if you had been reading the newspapers, there is a joint venture project between Genting and Chelsea Group (not the football club) to build an Outlet Village in Kulai, Johor. Many of the international brands would have their outlet store in the Village which iis called Johor Premium Outlet. Lacoste would have its first outlet store there and it targeted to open in November 2011.

I hope this clarify everything. i can't stop those who wish to purchase fake Lacoste at a cheaper price, but I would certainly want to educate those who are unaware that these are FAKE products.

This post has been edited by Unconventional Chic: Apr 6 2011, 03:10 AM
Unconventional Chic
post Apr 7 2011, 12:20 AM

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No problem. Glad to help.

if you guys are interested in special edition, a collaboration project called Lacoste Honet would be coming soon, should be somewhere in end May or early June.

You can visit the Highsnobiety website to look at the pictures. Pricing would adviced later.

For those in Sabah, Lacoste would be coming to you soon. If everything goes as planned, we are looking at mid May as the opening date. It will be located in 1 Borneo

This post has been edited by Unconventional Chic: Apr 7 2011, 12:39 AM
Unconventional Chic
post Apr 7 2011, 04:21 PM

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Firstly, Lacoste do not allow damaged, overrun or whatsoever that the people claim to be sold or re-sold.

For damaged products, the distributor in each country has to cut the damaged item into pieces and to be verified by an ccountant before any refund would be given back to the dictributor. Therefore, damaged products should NOT be in the market.

Talking about overrun, I think we now have a problem of not having enough Lacoste products being supplied to the countries than having overrun! Lacoste DO NOT allow such sale. However, we cannot 100% control if there were leakage from producing factories that sold any of the items out cheaply to illegal resellers or parallel importers. But I can assure you, so far, what I see is FAKE and not overrun.

During my visit to Dataran Pahlawan, I stumbled across a shop that is well presented. In the shop, it sold brands like Lacoste, Tommy, AX, Ralph Lauren. I must say, I was shock to see that the crocodiles used in the apparel were close to real (or maybe real, if the logo's had been smuggled out). However, looking at the quality of finishing and some other details that I cannot reveal here, I conclude that they were FAKE eventhough the sales girl stated that they were old stocks to be cleared.

You can see that they had Chinese tags, so I preseumed they were imported from China.

My advice, only buy Lacoste from Lacoste boutiques and counter if you have doubt.



Unconventional Chic
post Apr 8 2011, 08:20 AM

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Yes, it is different in color but is still made of MOP
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post Apr 9 2011, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(stylophile @ Apr 8 2011, 02:33 PM)
If you don't have enough supply of Lacoste products, why do you have clearance sales at Isetan KLCC? Charity?

Please PM me the details that you cannot reveal here. I am looking into starting a business. Thanks.
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If we are doing charity, we might as well sell at RM0.

If you did attend the Sales at Isetan KLCC, you would have seen the banner that says END OF SEASON SALE. If you are smart enough, you should know what that means.

I'm sorry, we don't do business withh 3rd party.
Unconventional Chic
post Apr 11 2011, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 10 2011, 12:51 AM)
but his ques is why was there a clearance sale instead of when
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We have 1 big sales every year to clear of "dead" (stocks pass season stocks), broken sizes, etc to ensure our inventory is in healthy state, sufficient funds to purchase new stocks for the next season.

We either name it clearance sales, end of season sale, ...............

However, starting November this year, you can find those in Johor Premium Outlet


Added on April 11, 2011, 8:24 am
QUOTE(RahmanHWZ @ Apr 10 2011, 02:06 AM)
I've chanced upon counterfeit/fake Red! collection in China since early 2010. I believe hardcode Lacoste fans will be able to distinguish between the real and the fakes.

With reference to 'I also would like to confirm here that there should not be 2 tags, no matter where you purchase the polo. There is ONLY 1 tag, on the polo, wether you are buying in Paris, Istanbul, Rome, New York or Japan. Many fake still carry the made in Peru because that is where the first few lacoste factories were located. But it has since evolved. With the high demand, factories are now located everywhere in the world with QC personnel just like any other luxury brands.', I would have to disagree with this statement.

As far as Rahman is aware of, Lacoste apparels meant for US market does come with 2 tags. Such as:

user posted image

user posted image

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The chinese fake is getting better with their crocodiles compared to last time. Guess they want a share of the big market since Lacoste is considered top 3 branded item must have in China.

As for the US products, I must say the crocodile looks real. On the double tag, i can;t verify if yours is real or not unless i check with those guys in the US. But I have never seen this designs before. But again, US do have their own designs capsule specificly for their country only, same goes with Japan and Thailand, and some other countries.

But its good to share, i didn;t know china has so many fake designs, that we have yet to see in malaysia.


Added on April 11, 2011, 8:28 am
QUOTE(stylophile @ Apr 9 2011, 07:58 AM)
now now, no need to get feisty.

if you were smart enough, you would know what your own advertisement says.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shoppingnsales/2434035920/

are you sure lacoste wants you representing them here?
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Like i mentioned before, i am just sharing so that people won;t get cheated by the fakes.

why do u keep questioning me? are you one of those sellers of fake goods?

U got piss bcoz i don;t wanna do business with you?

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post Apr 12 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Apr 12 2011, 03:50 PM)
guys,

when on earth did RL raised it prices?
as far as i am concern and i did my shopping in RL a no. of times over the past few months, their prices have dropped (as of this year if I am not wrong hmm.gif) according to a sales rep in conjunction with the lowering of taxes and wanting to align the prices with HKG 

the classic polo for one is priced between 350 -370 NOW as opposed to 4xx or so last year

Just FYI biggrin.gif

btw when is the sale for lacoste or when does the new season start?
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When RL principal took back from the malaysian distributor, they dropped the price from rm370 to rm300. then within a few months they raised it to rm450. when asked, they say to allign the prices with south east asia. However, prices in other countries seem to be much lower. The increase was last year. Not sure if they dropped again this year. It has been a roller coaster for them within a year.

New season has started. Sale has ended.
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post Apr 18 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Apr 18 2011, 01:17 AM)
prices are back down, they mentioned will stay down, like you said "to align with SEA region" biggrin.gif
good news in many ways tongue.gif

aiks! when is the next sale? mega sale?
okies! i'll b going to look look see see, i for one love the material as it does not elongate like PRL, i tink its also somewhat "more holey" thus cooler to wear biggrin.gif

thanks for the insight!
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Visited RL today. Price has went down to RM360. When asked, sales assistant say better buy, who knows, prices may go up. I think that comment was to make me purchase RL

It has been a roller coaster for RL in pricing within a year. Wonder how customers would feel especually those who bought at a much higher price. From Rm450 to Rm360 is a big gap.

To keep your polo in a good condition, I advice you to avoid using washing machine. Hand wash instead.

The holey condition is called "pique" special knitting method by Lacoste.
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post Apr 27 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(RahmanHWZ @ Apr 18 2011, 06:17 AM)
First of all, there are no overrun, so if someone claims that its overrun, then you can just ignore it.

From the picture, it may look real, but after they send you the product, it may not 100% the same as what was shown in the picture.

it is normal for people to post the actual products, and some even with paper bags, but at the end of the day, its just a gimmick to make you purchase the fake product.

Again, there is no such thing as overrun.

 

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