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 All Things About BLU-RAY | V10, happy BLU year 2009

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post Feb 19 2009, 08:53 AM

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u buying? 8.99 is good deal..
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post Feb 20 2009, 12:04 AM

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what kind of BD player is worth so much?
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post Feb 20 2009, 08:38 AM

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irwan.. bring it on!
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post Feb 20 2009, 08:55 AM

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mega, no need to collect so much liao..
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post Feb 20 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(fentanyl @ Feb 20 2009, 05:34 PM)
U should buy Island Fever 4 from apis then we take turn to rent it..  whistling.gif
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no need la, wait for Irwan to start his RM60 for 24 discs per month package.. biggrin.gif

but I think the disc after sticky sticky liao.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 20 2009, 05:30 PM)
Still waiting for Ip Man BD  sad.gif
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no need la, just watch the MKV version lor.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(rthj @ Feb 20 2009, 09:52 PM)
its not mkv...39.72GB to be exact..

with

Audio: Cantonese Chinese / LPCM / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
          Cantonese Chinese / DTS-HD Master / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2681 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
          Cantonese Chinese / Dolby TrueHD / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 1766 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
          Mandarin Chinese / DTS-HD Master / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2437 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
          Mandarin Chinese / Dolby Digital / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
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wow free BD IPman ISO/BDMV.. did you download? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Feb 23 2009, 06:31 PM)
Slumdog director D.Boyle helmed one of my favourite movie... Trainspotting back in '96!  notworthy.gif He oso didLeo DiCaprio's The Beach...  thumbup.gif
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he did sunshine with michelle yeoh in it rite?

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post Feb 26 2009, 08:36 AM

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luckily you not around, cos LYN kaput until afternoon time..
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post Feb 28 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Feb 28 2009, 10:23 AM)
50Hz, 60Hz, 100Hz and 200Hz are not in the multiple of 24, so 3:2 pulldown will be applied for 24p source. Simple reason, can these numbers be divided by 24? wink.gif

However, at 24 frame per second, there are too few frames to makes up a perfect smooth motion, but at least that's the way it was filmed. This means there will be some jerkiness during fast motion shots, usually noticeable during left to right panning shot (in cinema I see blurry effects rather than jerkiness). The bigger refresh rate of the TV will create more frames, but they'll only be duplicates. This is what the AMP/MF/IFC trying to do, doing interpolation rather than duplication, smoothing it out,  which will make the picture the video-like effect (camcorders usually records at 60Hz). So if you want to turn AMP/MF/IFC on or off, totally up to your liking. But make sure you turn 24p setting to on/automatic in the PS3/BD player to avoid the pulldown (making the frame interpolation in the multiple of 24).

But there is a catch, this AMP/MF/IFC is not perfect. They're supposed to be frame interpolation, not duplication. The TV will create intermediate frames using certain algorithms based on the information from adjacent frames. Sometimes it's inaccurate, thus giving ghosting and possibly re-introducing judders on fast motion shots. If the response time is not fast enough, when someone throws a ball, you might see 3 balls flying instead of one. laugh.gif 

For rontt88 case, I think the reason is the combination of both 3:2 pulldown and the AMP. Maybe the 24p setting was turned off, while the AMP was turned on. Make sure the 24p is on, but the AMP is optional.

This is just from what I understands, hope the sifus can correct me. My 2 cents. biggrin.gif
AMP - Auto Motion Plus (Samsung)
MFP - Motion Flow  (Sony)
IFC - Intelligent Frames Creation (Panasonic)
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got some more terminologies to confuse you all..

black frame insertion between 5:5 pull-down
intra-frame insertion with adaptive motion interpolation between all these AMP/MF/IFC technologies.. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
sample and hold technique for LCD panels rather than panel response time causing motion blur artifacts..

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I will leave it to sifu sifu aiman and anfield to explain.. notworthy.gif
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post Mar 1 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Feb 28 2009, 11:49 PM)
Well, I think its about time we all try and learn these terminologies since we're all so into hi-def now. Especially to people like me, for example... I want to understand thoroughly about all these before buying a new 1080p/24fps hdtv.. These tvs certainly ain't cheap & you want to make sure that you invest in a right one that suit you well & hopefully future-proof, at least for the next 5 years maybe...  nod.gif

So with that, thanks to all the "si-foos" here for sharing these knowledges...  notworthy.gif
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won't need to learn so much if we settled for a Kuro plasma instead of LCD.. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 1 2009, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(rthj @ Mar 1 2009, 05:21 AM)
so which size of kuro are you using?
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I'm not using kuro, me most of the time spent viewing on projector..

observation coming from spending time my own CRT 1080p monitor, own plasma, own cheapo pana LCD and also most recently from repeated viewings on mpyw's 50inch kuro...


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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 27 2009, 10:03 AM)
I wish I was a master of PQ, but I'm not and have been wrong before. I am still learning.

Anyway, movies/films are normally shot in 24frames per second (24Hz). This is primarily done to save space. Most BD are mastered in 24 fps (technically it is 23.97 fps - this I am not sure why, a real expert needs to explain this). Thus when played back 24 frames are played back in 1 sec.


hope I'm able to chip in, not expert but was reading some explainations by sifus/gurus on the forums..

NTSC compliant recommends DVDs being converted to 23.976Hz for 24FPS film sources
why? cos NTSC is 59.94Hz/ 29.97Hz.

23.976HZ/29.97 is roughtly 4/5 hence able to do the pulldown effectively.

for HD (ATSC) resolutions, it;'s 24Hz /50/60HZ cos it's not NTSC..

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 3 2009, 11:55 AM)
waiting for T2 re-release again biggrin.gif
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how many time want to re-re-re release? blink.gif blink.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 3 2009, 01:51 PM

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wont kacau, from the cover, one looks like a veteran war movie and the other like POTC franchise movie.. haha!
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post Mar 3 2009, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 3 2009, 02:09 PM)
wait untill u see the back cover  sweat.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  tongue.gif
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yeah kah.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 3 2009, 02:25 PM)
Fuyooo....  sweat.gif

Taukeh ar188, you know wot to do next ah?  tongue.gif
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this 2pcs for megatron ar?

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Mar 3 2009, 10:16 PM)
Terrible la u guys here, whole day talking about "Cyan" blu-ray... respect la a bit, got mademoiselle now in de thread!!  shakehead.gif 
you mean they are talking about your cyan sig? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:33 AM)
Aiya  i prefer "Pirates" one...  sad.gif  , me just curious how it look like in 1080P.....  tongue.gif  blush.gif
if your display got 3D effect (like those motionflow), I think will be more exciting kua.. laugh.gif drool.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 08:56 AM

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fadthil... when you watch "cyan" movies you mind the grain or not? hehe!
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post Mar 5 2009, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Mar 5 2009, 03:11 AM)
I want to ask a general question here: Putting aside filmmakers' artistic intention, is grainy really ok to you on a hi-def presentation (like bluray on full HD tv/pj) ? hmm.gif  Personally, its not ok to me...

If grain appears on a lower reso medium like dvd on CRT tv, it won't be so intrusive... meaning it won't matter much but through a high reso medium like bluray on a big scale full HD screen especially, it can be so obvious and tends to be annoying  shakehead.gif  After watching one Lara Croft: Tomb Raider & Predator, I really wish they apply DNR on those films! Just my opinion though... So, what do you guys think?
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it really depends on the screen or TV you are using also, even between LCD and plasma or projectors will have difference,..
and also based on the processing done by the TV on the source input signal.

some TV with certain features turned on will amplify the grain effects more drastically than others.. I notice it alot on previous Sony LCD TVs.. dunno about 09 versions how they perform...
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 6 2009, 08:35 PM)
Those earning 30k per moon sap sap sui la
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I guess elite kianwee no problem also.. rclxms.gif

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