Hi guys,

Just registered here. I'm a SE owner, brilliant red. While I'm happy with many things, certain things also let me down, but these are mostly minor in nature.

Do read up on my review of my car which was delivered end April.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=88795

quote=laszlo,May 26 2009, 08:52 PM
How much can I get for selling the Persona SE GPS? I don't really like it. Maybe topping up for a proper Garmin


I share your sentiment.

True and false.

True- There IS a tint

False - The tint is so light that its useless. Its just about the cheapest most horrible tinit that you get in the market. Not much better that the regular plastic used to bungkus your kid's school textbook with.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:50 pmYes you certainly need to balance your tyres.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:51 pmAgree with you. And also easy to clean. and relatively dust free.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:53 pmYes its true. If you include the commission for the U*n*p*tras and cronies laaaa...

Biasalaaaaa....

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:54 pmGreat thing you did! The tint's practically useless.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:55 pmBrother, how much are you quoted for the 3M Crystaline?

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Added on May 27, 2009, 6:57 pmGood question ... it is hot but it doesn;t bother me much since I wear pants/jeans. But it might be a bother for your wife/gf if she wears shorts/ short skirts.


This post has been edited by ipohmali70: May 27 2009, 06:57 PM

Yes I think its quite reasonable. Another guy quoted me 1.9k though I'm not sure of the exact spec.

I also understand about the JPJ specs but for now I'm not gonna worry too much about it. I apply the tint to my satisfaction as long as its not too dark that it screams for the JPJ to tahan me. Even if its comes the time to sell it, it's the buyers problem, not mine.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 11:33 pmIf you're driving SE it might be good for you to use the cruise control. Saves you a lot of saman in the future.




This post has been edited by ipohmali70: May 27 2009, 11:33 PM

Yes I agree. I recently sent my car for the 1st 1000 km service and was charged 2.58 (if not mistaken) for the stupid plug, which is basically a hex head bolt which you can buy new for 20 or 30 cents. I have been driving cars since 1993 and have never never ever changed a plug and this car is only 2 weeks old and they have the cheek to say that a brand new plug needs changing (if it was ever changed in the 1st place).

And to top it all, now I found out the oil filter's leaking and making a mess of my porch.

And don't get me started about the Magnetrap (or Magnecrap) thingy which they forced on me for RM68.00. After all, since when aluminum particles from the engine block stick to magnets????? Perfect idiots, are we?

One thing I gotta hand it to them, they really know how to fleece you.

I had a nice talk with the SC manager and insisted that in the future I will only pay for engine oil and filter and nothing more.

No plugs
No additives
No expensive "engine treatment"
No Magnecraps
No nothing!

I will no longer tolerate any other scams from them!

This post has been edited by ipohmali70: May 28 2009, 01:05 AM


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This is the damn plug that costs me RM2.58! Not sure whether it was changed or not but sure as heck I was billed for it!!

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Added on May 28, 2009, 1:13 amIt's funny that I have my regular mechanic for the last 10 years and have never been scammed (or even felt slightly cheated) and here I am during my 1st and 2nd visit to the SC I really felt that I have been short changed.

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Added on May 28, 2009, 1:16 amAgree 100%

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Added on May 28, 2009, 1:46 amErrr... is it just me or did you also notice that there's oil below the sump casing too? Is the "new" drain plug leaking already? or is it just the mechanics too lazy to wipe the bottom and the sump after the oil change? (the car was jacked up 5 ft)





This post has been edited by ipohmali70: May 28 2009, 01:46 AM


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Yes, you're right. It's 2.52. Just checked my bill today. That's why I said "If not mistaken"...

No need to change the drian plug unless its leaking or damaged.

I have driven various cars since 93 and have never changed the drain plug, except for my old Honda C70 Cub and then only because it was confirmed to be worn out.

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Added on May 29, 2009, 6:31 pmThere's pros and cons involved.

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Added on May 29, 2009, 6:33 pmIf your abs lamp lights up its means the abs is not functioning.

My car seat belt sign for my SE also does not function. However it can be wired to function, though I do not know how to go about it. I think an accessory chop should be able to do it.

Engine noisy? It's normal but from inside its quite quiet.

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Added on May 29, 2009, 6:35 pmGlad to hear its only RM100 and not RM400++ for the waja

You need to exercise it once in a while. If not something will go wrong inside.



This post has been edited by ipohmali70: May 29 2009, 06:35 PM

The safetint's horrible. Read my take on it.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...&st=60&start=60

I'd suppose I can pm you but it's not necessary to go for a certain brand. For sure that if you want a good one be prepared to spend >1000 for the whole car. I'm sure you can even do it in Lumut or Sitiawan.

Mine has 90% heat rejection all sides and the side windows are reinforced with impact resistant film 6 mil think. Overall greenish in colour. Very comfortable in strong sunlight. I invested 1100 for the whole thing. The entire job took 4 1/2 hours to do slowly by the owner partner himself, including the careful peeling off the horrible Safetint. My warranty is for 5 years and extended to if I get a ticket from JPJ or police they will pay for the ticket. Yes I have it in black and white.

Now I am a very satisfied man.

This post has been edited by ipohmali70: Jun 23 2009, 06:19 PM

Congrats, what colour? Check your spotlights, any cracks? Wait for the klunking sound at the front right side to appear. Yes FC for new engine is very high, but that's normal. Wait till the odo hits 3000, then it would settle.

Any squeaking noise from the back.? You can fix it easily with electrical tape.

And last do yourself a great big favour - rip out the horrible safetint and replace with a better one. I've already done that. The shop says that the safetint is worth only less than RM200 whole car, probably done by some Umnoputra company. It is a poor quality film. And I read somewhere that they have to cheek to claim that its worth RM1200!!!! I still keep the ripped out sample with me.

Check antenna, perhaps swap with another antenna and see if the problem persists.

The seat belt light is memang like that. It is not wired but can be wired to light up if the engine is started by the seat belt is not fastened.

Also at the ignition the ring can be made to light up like the one in Wira. I'm not sure how much the accessories shop charge for it though.

Its free in a sense, that is , in labour, but they will try to include (more like force) some unnecessary stuff like "Magnetrap". I call it Magnecrap. This useless gizmo will set you back RM68!!.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89017

Don't believe it when they say you can only use the oil sold by them. You can buy and use your own engine oil. My Castrol mineral was only RM40.00. If you use their Petronas Mach 5 oil that will set you back RM69.00. Make sure you use 20W-50

Oil filter is 12.22.
Drain plug gasket 2.52

You follow them, total = 69 + 12.22 + 2.52 + 68 = RM151.74

You follow my advise, total = 40 + 12.22 + 2.52 = RM54.74 Don't forget to add RM1.50 for the teh ais you are going to blanja me! : )


Make them understand that is if they pour or add any other unnecessary stuff like petrol, gear oil additives etc without your express permission, you will not pay for it. SC is famous for these tricks.

Watch out for poor workmanship. My 1st service resulted in a messy leak due to improper installation of the oil filter.

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Added on June 25, 2009, 6:46 amKlunking sound appear only when you make a sharp left turn over bumpy road. Noise from the back might appear in 1 - 2 weeks time. Noise is from folding back seat latch.

Don't believe the FC meter http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89636

3M is good but expensive. You don't have to go for brand names. Other makes are just as good as along as you get the high heat rejection type of minimum 90%

Mine has 91% heat rejection and 6 mil Anti-Mat Rempit security film at the sides cuz my car sometimes driven by wifey. Costs me RM1100 and I am 101% satisfied with it.

Don't fall for the marketing trick by coolworld.

This post has been edited by ipohmali70: Jun 25 2009, 06:56 AM

Errrr... sorry to burst your bubble bob, but wait till you average out your calculations over several thousand km, like mine.

I don't think you can get 1 pc but you might consider this.

http://www.mudah.my/Door-visor-for-GEN2%2C...ONA-3161754.htm

Yes my SC also pour the entire contents into the engine, which I am not happy about. What is the effect if the oil is way above the max mark?

Not only that a couple of days after my 1st service, I noticed that oil is leaking from the oil filter. Apparently they didn't tighten the thing tight enough and it made a mess of my porch.

Now after the 2nd service it seems I have fresh oil marks on the porch again. Sighh..... I am so disappointed with them. Tomorrow I will jack up the car and see if it leaks at the same place.

In my 16 years of driving and owning cars this has never happened before. Oil leak from sump yes but not oil leak from a recently fitted original oil filter.

You got scammed! Bet you got a worthless "Magnacrap"!

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89017

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Added on June 29, 2009, 1:43 amThank you loong for your input!

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Added on June 29, 2009, 1:47 amYes....

They give you "free" labour for 1k 5k 10k service but they'll try to:

1. scam you by installaing the worthless "Magnacrap" thingy on your oil filter
http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89017

2. scam you by adding unnecessary expensive engine oil additive, car wash, engine wash etc.

3. give you more problems by overfilling your oil and causing your new oil filter to leak.

Watch out for their dirty tricks.

Send to them 2 times, kena 2 times!!




This post has been edited by ipohmali70: Jun 29 2009, 01:47 AM

In Ipoh the cost is:

Cas 20/50 = RM40 (Buy outside)
Oil Filter = RM12.22 (Just buy from SC)
Lab charge: RM 8.00
Total = RM60.22 Only if do outside, spend only 10 mins compared to 2 hours in SC

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Added on June 29, 2009, 11:58 amRM90 i s bl@@dy expensive for a minor job like this!

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Added on June 29, 2009, 12:01 pmAh yes I was mistaken. If include the stupid and useless magnacrap the bill is RM155

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Added on June 29, 2009, 12:04 pmYou're right, but think about the 2 hour wait (assuming with appointment) for something that an outside Ah Beng workshop can do in 5 mins.

Besides I'm scared the incompetent technicians will damage the engine, while fiddling with it.




This post has been edited by ipohmali70: Jun 29 2009, 12:04 PM

That's total bull.

Do ask the SC guy:

Where in the freaking manual or service booklet does it says that Proton cars MUST use Petronas oil and if not the warranty will be void??

Besides remember that its your car not his car!!!! Why should you let him dictate what brand you must buy. You have got to be more assertive.

I use Castrol 20/50 that I brought myself at a spare parts shop near the SC. Cost only RM40. Compare to Petronas Mach 5 same grade it is RM 69!!!!

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Added on June 29, 2009, 6:42 pmHmmm loong, if you say Mobil 1 is better the other oils, I might just give it a try the next time.

This post has been edited by ipohmali70: Jun 29 2009, 06:53 PM

Can you give us a breakdown of the RM175?.. Back mirror? You mean rear windscreen?