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TSunderminer
post Jul 26 2009, 12:27 AM

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With the Asian Dota Championships Qualifiers in Malaysia reaching its conclusion when the final match-up between Cybertime and INC.Excello being played out on Tuesday, 28 July 2009, I am officially recommending a change of map to 6.61b for all local tournaments to reflect the changes made in the International Scene.

The recommended rule set has been updated in the front post. There is a new SMM rule set for Local LAN tourneys taking into account practical situations in the setup of Cybercafes nowadays. Will confirm with the Marshals that is implementing it and update it in a separate rule.

Upcoming sanctioned tournaments for the rankings depending on the quality of tournament reporting made:

1.
MOIS CyberCafe Enterprise DotA-AllStars Tournament
Date: 1st,2nd of Aug 2009
Venue: Mois CyberCafe Enterprise (3150,Jalan Mahsuri 2/J Taman Mahsuri 09400 Padang Serai,Kedah.)
Category B tournament (Total Prize Money: RM8,250)
Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1104923

2.
MMU ConvoFest LAN Games Competition 2009
Date: 1st and 2nd of August
Venue: MMU Cyberjaya FIT Lab
Category C tournament (Total Prize Money: RM2,400)
Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1082984

3.
Alladin Competition
Date : 8th, 9th August 2009
Venue : Alladin Net Cafe(Near Leisure Mall)
Category C tournament (Total Prize Money: RM4,500
Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1098981

4.
NTECH BUKIT MERTAJAM DOTA TOURNAMENT2009
Date : 23 August 2009(SUNDAY)
Venue: 3216, TAMAN TAMPOI INDAH BUKIT MERTAJAM 14000 PULAU PINANG
Category B tournament (Total Prize Money: RM5,300)
Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1099293

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  underminer how come vaw4si in the list for such a long time i didnt see them winning any compy except for smm pahang other tourney all lose 1st round


In response to the user above, teams are not removed from the roster until they are deemed disbanded or inactive. In which case both does not suit the criteria of the team you are enquiring about. The team carries on with a different roster than when they first started but the team itself has not been inactive and is in constant with me through pm on their team movements, so there is no reason for them to be removed from the list.

This post has been edited by underminer: Jul 26 2009, 09:07 AM
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post Aug 1 2009, 03:53 PM

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From various sources, the Mois tournament could be a fake tournament. Shows the popularity of the game when people trying to fake a tournament using its name for whatever reason they like.

For scene news, Cybertime won the right for to form a roster of 10 (compulsory in the rules) for Asian Dota Championships 2009 organised by G-arena. Beating the ACG 1st runner-up team INC-Excello 2-0 in convincing fashion in the finals, Cybertime will now proceed to form their roster of 10 from players in the scene.

Playdota.com ADC MY Final Match Report with replays

With the 3+2 rule in place, Cybertime will be able to recruit foreign nationals into the Team Malaysia roster provided no more than 2 of them plays in each of their matches in the regular season. But with the wealth of Dota talent here in Malaysia, it might not be necessary. Will they be able to pick wisely to prevent the best players from plying their trade with an overseas team for this ADC season by virtue of this 3+2 rule ( I heard the India representative team Error is very interested in acquiring Ks'Yamateh's services for the course of the season)? Or will they allow a "Dota Brain Drain" happen in front of our eyes? Lets wait for the confirmed roster to be out and judge for ourselves.


The thread is supposed to includes Dota themed articles that I have written in my spare time. In mu opinion, the lack of articles for Dota in general is kind of a let down. To compensate for my lack of output, I will post up certain articles worthy of your time that caught my eye relating to Dota for your reading pleasure in this thread.

The first recommended article is written by Ant, one of the founders of Zenith that silently dominates the Singapore and Asian Dota Scene before the rise of Kingsurf and Xcn. In this article, he discussed in depth the "levelling of players" as you progress in the skill tree of Dota. An insightful read with lots of interesting anecdotes in game that players generally can relate to ( I know I can ).

Player Levelling by Zenith^ANT

Credits to www.gameworkssg.com for the article link.

Quotes from the article:


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In my line of work (play, whatever), I have noticed a certain skill progression that logically players will go through when they enter competitive play. Perhaps the most illogical thing that I'm going to do in this article, is classify players into different levels, of which a higher level denotes a higher skill level.

Most players advance to a certain level, then get stuck there, not willing to try out new things or knowing what to improve. Myself, these progression of levels have been compiled from personal experience, and then from looking at other better players (for the levels I think I haven't reached yet).


So, what level are you?

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post Aug 22 2009, 01:29 PM

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Its been long since the last update, apologize for that.

The rankings has been updated to take into account :

1. MMU Convofest Dota tournament (category C tournament)


And here are the update summary of the rankings:

Top 10 Malaysia :

1. INC.Excello
2. Keydone.MU
3. Kingsurf
4. MU.BattleLAN
5. Cybertime 1
6. Irelax
7. VA'w4s|
8. Sino
9. Cybertime 2
10. INC

Rankings of East Malaysia remains unchanged.

The full Excel file will be uploaded after this weekend's tournaments has been concluded :

1. SMM Sarawak Qualifiers (Category B Tournament)
2. Ntech Bukit Mertajam Dota tournament 2009 (Category B Tournament)




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post Sep 4 2009, 03:08 PM

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Hey guys, here come another update to the rankings covering the tournaments as follows:

1. SMM Sarawak (B)
2. Ntech Bukit Mertajam (B)
3. SMM Johor (B)

As usual here is the rankings summary :

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MU.Gold.Mineski has changed its name to Keydone.MU (rank 2)

Black Humour combined with Wet Risers to become Wet Risers (rank 23) (thanks Izzat for updating me on this)

EMP-Immortal’s title has been changed to Team 8 (rank 17) and won 1st runners-up if SMM Sarawak.

Fishnet.Dominius (rank 13) has been declared inactive as 2 of their players switched to Team Survivor(rank 14) which won SMM Sarawak.

Kingsurf Gaming’s title has been updated to Kingsurf (rank 3) following their separation with Eryc and the change of management.

Cybertime 1 our Asia Dota Championship 3 nation representative successfully broke into the top 4 of the rankings for the first time.

INC.Excello maintained their long held dominance at the top of the rankings table. They managed to beat Kingsurf, Cybertime and Ftz Asia Gaming in the recent Ntech Dota Tournament held at Bukit Mertajam, further stamping their mark as the rankings’ number 1 team.

For the first time since the rankings started, the top 30 teams of Malaysia can be differentiated with the distinction of points. Please download the latest copy dated 4 September 2009 for the full details of the rankings.

As always, please drop me a pm for updates of the rankings’ information.

This post has been edited by underminer: Sep 4 2009, 03:15 PM
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post Sep 18 2009, 07:59 PM

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Following the updates from SMM, the official map for all tournaments will be switched to 6.63 from now.

The Dota rankings will be updated after the conclusion of SMM Kedah this weekend.

Thanks
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post Nov 8 2009, 12:45 PM

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I apologise for the long delay in updating the rankings. Tried my hand in team management in a team most would be familiar by now (hint : ranked 24). However, here come another update to the rankings covering the tournaments as follows:

1. SMM Perak (B)
2. SMM Kedah (B)
3. SMM Selangor (from semi onwards) (B)
4. SMM KL (from last 16 onwards) (B)
5. Neocraft Sabah Tournament ( C )

As usual here is the rankings summary :

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Notes :

1. Misrepresentation could occur in the SMM Selangor results as only the semi finals results appeared.

2. Mineski’s win is keyed as 3 person victory in Keydone.MU as Mineski has 2 foreigners in their winning team.

3. Cybertime 2 has been renamed Cybertime-Fishnet.

4. Keydone.MU is officially rated as inactive as 2 members (Xigz and Xtinct) has switched to Cybertime and 1 (Owspia) has switched to Cybertime-Fishnet. The rankings has been updated accordingly. The remaining points for its players will be distributed once their players found their team.

5. Fishnet Dominius’ team points has been combined into Cybertime-Fishnet to reflect the merging of both teams (Redsun joining up and the sponsorship of the team is shared). 4 player’s portion of the points (except Redsun’s) has been removed to reflect the real situation

6. 2 players of INC’s portion of the points has been transferred into Cybertime-Fishnet to reflect Dav’s and Garfield’s transfer.

7. GizmoMix, the top team of Sarawak has its name updated to Idol.Gizmo. AOE.911 has been renamed A.O.E.

8. MU.BattleLAN and Fishnet Dominius has been rated as inactive until further notice due to being inactive and the latter having merged with Cybertime-Fishnet.


This should be it, if there are any changes that needs to be made, do pm me for an update. Until then, the softcopy of the latest rankings should be at the front page for download.

Some thoughts on the latest rankings later...
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post Dec 6 2009, 08:15 PM

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An update post SMM2009 where the Chinese teams came dominating again (!@#$%^).
However, here comes another update to the rankings covering the tournaments as follows:

1. Genting CyberWorld Dota Championships ©
2. OceanNet Dota Tournament ©
3. SMM Grand National Dota Tournament 2009 (A)

As usual, here is the rankings summary

Top 10 Malaysia :

1. INC.Excello
2. Cybertime
3. Kingsurf
4. Fishnet
5. Ftz-Asia Gaming
6. Irelax
7. VA'w4s|
8. Sino
9. Empire-VZP-Freedom
10. INC'Xiao

Top 10 Peninsular:

1. INC.Excello
2. Cybertime
3. Kingsurf
4. Fishnet
5. Ftz-Asia Gaming
6. Irelax
7. VA'w4s|
8. Sino
9. INC'Xiao
10. Ewave Leap Gaming

Top 10 East Malaysia:

1. Empire-VZP-Freedom
2. Empire Team 8
3, GG.MIX
4. A.O.E.
5. Excology
6. Quod
7. NERD
8. DINO
9. cL*Crz
10. cL*Hitz

Notes:

1. KeydoneMU’s points for Genting is transferred to divided into 5 parts where W|nter gets a portion, Kingsurf gets 3 portions (Sakura, Chuan and XiaoXiaoFong) and the Singaporean in the team (which has no effect on the rankings as he does not falls into the “Malaysia Team” definition.

2. Which comes to a new rule in the rankings: whereby the points obtained from a scratch team will be divided equally among the 5 players and the points will belong the team the players’ belong at the time of the tournament or the first team (subject to the “Malaysia Team” criteria) the player joined after points were obtained.

3. SMM Grand Finals 2009 (SGNDT 2009) provides a challenge to the rankings. To make calculations easier, the following standards has been used.
i) Teams who reached in the qualifiers group stage will be granted “33-64” points of 880
ii) Teams who reached the last 40 group strage will be granted “17-32” points of 2,220
iii) Teams who reached the last 16 playoffs stage will be granted “9-16” points of 3,600
iv) The rest of the rankings points calculations will be as per the rules.

4. NGL came out of retirement from their participation of SGNDT 2009.

5. W|nter’s points for Genting (1,950/5 = 390) and SGNDT (3,600/5 = 720) will be delayed until confirmation of his whereabouts in a new team.

6. Sharky’s points for SGNDT 2009 (3600/5= 720) will be delayed until confirmation of his whereabouts in a new team.

7. Cybertime-Fishnet title has been changed to Fishnet following the settlement of sponsor issues.

8. Adjustments has been made following Chuan’s transfer to Cybertime from Kingsurf and Xiaoxiaofong’s transfer to Kingsurf. Xiaoxiaofong’s points from Keydone.MU (3,947), Genting tournament (1,950/5 = 390) and SGNDT 2009 (3600/5 = 720) has been transferred to Kingsurf in this adjustment


The soft copy of the calculations has been uploaded at the first page.

Added a "Recommended LAN Rules" replacing the old one which i renamed "Recommended Online Rules" as a basis for discussion. For your information, the new LAN rules has been used in the recent SGNDT 2009 after a high level discussion by the Marshals in charge. The most significant application of this new rule is the elimination of CH by INC Excello due them exceeding the 45 min rule.

So what do the community thinks about this new rule, hopefully there will be a good discussion here on and perhaps some improvements can be made.

This post has been edited by underminer: Dec 7 2009, 10:44 PM
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post Dec 7 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ftz.Chenizace @ Dec 7 2009, 08:58 PM)
If the score lose fishnet and irx how come in the Malaysia ranking it was top 5? @@

Top 10 Malaysia :

1. INC.Excello
2. Cybertime
3. Kingsurf
4. Fishnet
5. Ftz-Asia Gaming
6. Irelax
7. VA'w4s|
8. Sino
9. Empire-VZP-Freedom
10. INC'Xiao
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Thanks for pointing out the error, fixed.


Seems like China once again shown us that the way to play "winning" Dota is to just:

1. Play it vigorously
2. Find out what is imba
3. Train it in trainings
4. Abuse it in tournaments.
5. Teams can kill us like shit (most Malaysian teams would as thats how they are bred since... forever???), but we still own them with pure buggy strats in that version buahahahaha!!!)

For SMM 2008, its SA, Tinker and Visage.

For SMM 2009, its 3 hero farm/push 3 lanes and 2 super under-level heroes roaming+placing wards all game. Kingsurf even mentioned in their first loss against FTD, both teams never have 1 5v5 battle whole game and Ks just lost to pure pushing power. Impressive eh?

But honestly, one of the reasons that I love Malaysian Dota is the way it is played since the Paulyan era : ganks and kills. The intensity of each top game is pure entertainment no matter the version. Our culture of playing Dota ensures that our top teams mastered the gank and kill formula to produce good replays even in Local LAN tournaments. To change to "winning style Dota" in the recent versions will most certainly take off the fun of this.

However, with an article by 1 of the Ehome members entitled "Asian Dota Owns the World, China Dota Owns Asia" released the day SMM concluded, perspective changes dramatically. The link : http://bbs.sgamer.com/html/Post_322567.html

So, what you guy think? Should teams adopt the "winning but potentially" boring style? or hold on to our own style and "hope" we can outlast the inherent buggy strats from the Chinese ?

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post Dec 22 2009, 07:16 PM

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Malaysia's 2 most succesful teams in SMM 2009 was interviewed by Spotgamers. Both teams gave their take on SMM 2009 and some tips on how to improve your team. Check them out !

INC Excello : http://spotgamers.blogspot.com/2009/12/inc...spotgamers.html

Excerpts:

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Kingsurf : http://spotgamers.blogspot.com/2009/12/kin...ong-speaks.html

Excerpts :

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post Feb 7 2010, 01:10 PM

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Hey guys, here come another update to the rankings covering the tournaments as follows:

1. MVP tournament Kedah ©
2. Sunway Cyber Games 2009 ©

As usual here is the rankings summary :

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No changes for the top 10 noted in the rankings after SGNDT.

With the close of 2009 I am closing a season of the rankings starting from SGNDT 2008 and ends with Sunway Cyber Games 2009. It has been an eventful season . The start of the rankings witnessed a few important milestones along the way:

1. There were 33 "Tazz Dota Rankings Sanctioned" Open Dota tournaments in this period of time where teams playing in it will have its point counted and accumulated for the rankings. That is an average of 1 tournament every 2 weeks. I hope the rate will be more in the coming year.

2. The absolute rise and maintenance of the rankings by INC'Excello, rarely slipping up on their number 1 spot despite suffering some changes in their team over the period. Even won 2nd in the AWCG finals with their new recruit Deejaysharky.

3. The waning of the once powerful Kingsurf dominance in major events and the end of it with the loss in the AWCG 2009 qualifiers in the hands of INC'Excello.

4. The rise and fall of U.C.P.R.O. and Mineski due to various reasons.

5. The rise of Cybertime led by the enigmatic Mushi. Leading Malaysia's charge on ADC III after stunning Kingsurf in the Semis and INC'Excello in the Final of the Malaysian qualifiers. Although fell short on Christmas day at the final with their rivals AEON.Sg of Singapore, they raised our flag high in the most competitive online Dota league in the world.

6. The addition of more flame in the Eternal Argument of Asia Dota vs the rest of the world where 2 Malaysian teams, INC'Excello and FTZ Asia Gaming contributed in knocking out the best Western team at that time : Meet Your Makers out of the SMM 2009 Grand Finals.

7. The emergence of new stars of the game - a sign that Dota's competitiveness and popularity is still going strong in the nations' E-sport scene. Names like Deejaysharky, Winter, Xiaoxiaofong, Mushi, Garfield, Net, Miller, Redsun, Dolphin and Melody was practically unknown in the scene at the time of the ranking's launch. Now, they play key roles in the top 10 teams of the nation, forming the core of each team and leading to their many successes online and offline.


With the closure of the 2009 season, a new season will replace it with the launching of the 2010 season starting from the Forbidden City Dota Tournament this weekend. The rankings sincerely hopes that the organisers of tournaments will take a step further to provide as much info as possible to the media community such as the dedicated guys at Spotgamers in providing full, live and interactive coverage for their events which will benefit the scenes and the events they held.


The Final Update of the 2009 rankings is already posted in the front thread for download. Updates to the rules (War3 version 1.24d) and maps to use (6.66b) are also done for the ease of organising tournaments.

This post has been edited by underminer: Feb 7 2010, 07:09 PM
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post Mar 11 2010, 11:28 PM

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Hey, before I proceed to the update, I will introduce a new rule taking into account the LAN-based league : Spotgamers League that is going on right now.

I splitted a Class A tournament into the duration of the 6 weeks for the points granting. With the top 4 placements of the Class dividing the points based on the calculation criteria as follows :

Win : {[(9,200+7,800) / 2] / 6}= 1,416
Draw : [(1,416 + 1,070) / 2] = 1,243
Lost : 6,420 / 6 = 1,070
No-show : Nil

In addition to that, the final placements will be granted a Class C tournament ranking based on the final positions in the League.

The new rules has taken into account the commitment of getting a whole team into a LAN for 6 consequtive weeks in the only competitive E-sports League in Malaysia.

The update now has taken into account existing information on the following tournaments :

1. Forbidden City Dota tournament ( C )
2. Mars Cyberzone Dota tournament ( C )
3. Spotgamers Dota League Day 1

Without further delay, this is the rankings summary as at 12 March 2010. No difference been made for Peninsular and East Malaysia for the time being.
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Top 10 Malaysia

1. Nirvana.MY
2. Madnet Outlawz
3. Fishnet-MUFC
3. GG Mix
4. AmzSino
4. cL Ownz
4. Demigods [Mars]
4. s2p
5. INC^Excello


The soft copy for the rankings can be downloaded at the first post.


Added on March 30, 2010, 2:11 pmHey guys, yet another update !

Before I proceed, I will update the ranking rules a little by adding this line :

"Tournaments which made an extra effort in creating a winner-loser brackets / Group stage / League system in the opening stages of the tournament will be granted an upgrade of Category rating after considered the Prize money offering rule."

It means that a "Category C" tournament based on Prize money distribution will be upgraded to "Category B" if the organisers did away with the traditional Best-of-1 format of tournaments.


Without further delays, the update on the rankings will take into account the following tournaments that fulfills all criteria of the ranking coverage:

1. SPGL Day 2
2. SPGl Day 3
3. MMU GameFest 2010

The ranking summaries are as follows :

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Top 10 Malaysia :

1. MUFC-Fishnet
2. INC^Excello
3. Nirvana.MY
4. Silent Redemption
5. SINO.Regal
6. Kingsurf
7. K2E
8. ADN.FF
9. XGL
10. Madnet Outlawz

Top 10 Peninsular :

1. MUFC-Fishnet
2. INC^Excello
3. Nirvana.MY
4. Silent Redemption
5. SINO.Regal
6. Kingsurf
7. K2E
8. ADN.FF
9. XGL
10. Mushkin

Top 4 East Malaysia :

1. Madnet Outlawz
2. Gg.Mix
3. cL.Ownz
3. Demigods [Mars]



The surprise leader of the latest rankings will be MUFC-Fishnet. On the back of some impressive performances such as drawing 1-1 with Kingsurf on SPGL Day 2 and winning in the recently concluded GameFest 2010 , coming back from the brink of defeat to beat a very impressive SINO.Regal , Mushkin (4 Kingsurf players in it) and the red-hot Nirvana.MY in the Quarters, Semis and Finals respectively. That list of performance earned themselves a whopping 7,259 points along the way and pushed them straight into the pole position for the first time ever in the rankings.

INC^Excello , the Spotgamers Dota team of the year 2009 is close behind in second place followed by Nirvana.MY who just scored an impressive sponsorship with a Chinese sponsor following an eventful year 2009 for the team. Teams from 4th till 10th are there based on performances in MMU GameFest 2010.

Mushkin and Kingsurf shares the points of MMU GameFest 2010 based on the ranking rules that divides Sponsors and the team that players was still in at that point of time. The division of points enabled Mushkin being able to round up the top 10 in the Peninsular Rankings.


For details of the points, please proceed to the first post to download the detail softcopy of the rankings.

This post has been edited by underminer: Mar 30 2010, 02:16 PM
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post May 14 2010, 11:44 AM

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Another update after a long long hiatus.

This update will reflect the following qualified events as far as the rankings is concerned.

1. Spotgamers League Day 4
2. Spotgamers League Day 5
3. Spotgamers League Day 6
4. Spotgamers League Season 1 Final Results
5. Alienware Arena Tournament Kuala Lumpur ( C )
6. SMM Negeri Sembilan ( B )
7. SMM Qualifier Seeds ( B )


The summary is as follows :


Top 10 Malaysia :

1. MU-Fishclub-Suncity
2. INC^Excello
3. Kingsurf
4. Nirvana.Tbun
5. Silent Redemption
6. ADN.Amz
7. XGL
8. SINO.Regal
9. Sino
10. E3


Top 10 Peninsular :

1. MU-Fishclub-Suncity
2. INC^Excello
3. Kingsurf
4. Nirvana.Tbun
5. Silent Redemption
6. ADN.Amz
7. XGL
8. SINO.Regal
9. Sino
10. E3

Top 4 East Malaysia :

1. Madnet Outlawz
2. Gg.Mix
3. cL.Ownz
3. Demigods [Mars]


The conclusion of the Spotgamers Dota League heralds a new era in Malaysia Competitive Dota. With a guaranteed cash prize for the teams , guaranteed amount of games being played over a period of time and a dedicated group of organisers behind it, the league has high hopes of expanding the horizons of E-sports in Malaysia for teams, organisers and sponsors alike.

The conclusion of Season 1 of SPGL comes with the news of SGNDT returning for its 2010 and fifth edition. The effective banning of the top 4 teams from qualifying is regrettable but the rankings seeks to compensate them by the awarding of the equavalent of a State Champion points of 4600 for each of the 4 teams.

The rules recommended for tournaments has also been updated. The default map and Warcraft III version is 6.67c and 1.24e respectively in line with the latest International requirements for tournaments.

ESWC is coming but there is no word yet on a Malaysian team being sent to Paris. Hopefully we can hear more from this a few days from now.

The updated rankings can be downloaded at the link in the first post.

This post has been edited by underminer: May 14 2010, 11:59 AM

 

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