I am just wondering, did you just send your demo to production studio and let them decide whether you got the chance or not?

do you usually do other song's covers or srite your own song?

how?

the malaysian market is screwed, unless ur a hot chick or pretty boy.

if ur chinese, better u move to hong kong / taiwan

if ur malay, better u become a puppet and just sing other ppl's songs, cos thats whats going to happen anyway if ur new.
its the labels way or the highway.

and of cos u need friends in high places to get anywhere here.
no one in labels etc is going to listen to ur music no matter how good if no one recommends it.
i dunno how many a production house gets, but for a label u can forget sending it in unless u know someone.

u can play lots of gigs tho, where usually the crowd comprises of like 10 of each band members friends who all got in free + the local stray cat that decides to wander in, so basically everyone is playing to shiok sendiri only.

tho if u slowly build up, maybe u'll upgrade to playing shows for makciks and pakciks who dont understand ur music and will just clap along looking stupid when ur singing songs about mutilation.

even joining those reality shows gets ur nowhere.
what was that fat malay chick who finished in the top3 of malaysian idol?
shes nowhere now right?

or even farah asyikin, the one who was in AF, malaysian idol, one in a million, pity her album as imo it was spoiled by the all too slick over-compressed production.
even then, shes not exactly blazing up the charts and raking in 25,000 album sales.

speaking of album sales, the requirements for gold / platinum in malaysia has been reduced again.
so that shows that either everyone is downloading their stuff, or no one is buying them

if you write song, i mean, great songs, it's not hard to be famous.

if you sing cover, you have to be damn friggin good.

any successful artist or musicians are because of 1 simple thing - good music.

boyband is a no no...rock band is ok...write and compose an easy listening and catchy song...like indonesian band or music like muse...alternative also can...

eh everdying, Msia is that screwed ka......
well, at least u see, estranged is doing good, no?

seriously, i've never heard any stuff of theirs.
and if i recall, they started out singing english songs.

the way i see it, the market is just looking for any band and they meet the image requirements so they got snapped up

image requirements eh? lol......

let me be the vocalis

m'sia is narrowed down to mainstream music sadly

i think 'catchy' songs are wat new artistes/bands require to actually breakthrough in malaysia...

well malaysia looks for popularity mostly
talent second...
for example all the reality shows
their just there not bcoz they can sing or dance
it happends becoz brands
they need a certain someone who people can really like
and that someone will advertise lotsa things
so this is what i see now in msia
they are looking people who can "up" their sales
this is just what i think
thats all

well, the TS asked how to be famous...

i guess, u're not allowed to write good songs..but songs that are well received by the crowd, the public, people who will buy your CDs and not download them...mainstream stuff la, which may or may not be good music depending on taste...

if most of us were to sell an album that i like, that only my band mates think it's good, then it wont bring me far....maybe just among the local rock scene...

every part of the world also like that lah ..

which big ass investor record label wanna invest in a band that doesn't sell , or at least have the potential to sell

that's why new artists and bands won't last long unless they have real talent.

i admit in malaysia (in fact, anywhere) talent is 2nd most important, but nobody can deny the principle of success in music. no artist can last long without good music, no matter how good looking he/she is.

even if you're not into mainstream music, you still have to deliver good quality music regardless of any genre.

i once bought a CD which is all electronic music. so i thought i support local non-mainstream musics a bit, but what the fcuk it's utter shits, very obvious it's produced by some kind of noobs who think put a bit of synth here and a bit of loops there using Reason then call it a finished product? although i paid only RM20 for more than 10 songs but shit doesn't worth a cent! RM10 i also don't want to buy!

lol, was that the CD that ppl were going around mamak's selling?

but new artists? and good music?
again, good depends how u look at it.

look at the mainstream market.
easily 80% of the artists dont write their own stuff, they get by on image.
and if their music career fails, they can always become talkshow hosts for some stupid program

my god how you know? so they're scammer aren't they? i understand it's hard to market electronic musics in malaysia so they go around mamak stalls and sell it. i don't mind, well, it looks cheap but if the music is good why should i care how they market it?

by good music it's not neccesarily written by the artists. well regardless of who did it, in the end it's a business, and selling music. and of course i mean musics that accepted and loved by the crowd. If write music only you think is good then die loh, no need survive liao.

just like you see how many cafe and noodle stalls opened nowadays? they have beautiful interior design, but 70% of those stalls phailed because of food sux, 25% survived because acceptable quality but nothing special, and only the remaining 5% will be successful because of good food.

but music is not like food. if there's only 1 mamak stall in an area, if the food still can eat people will still go there. we need food everyday. when hungry and nothing to choose, white bread also sedap la. but we'll immediately change radio channel once heard a sucky song.

This post has been edited by little ice: Dec 31 2008, 02:21 PM

i know so far in mamak's that i go, especially in uptown, i have seen about 3 diffrerent acts behing pushed there.
who knows if those 3 are the same with different names and packaging, could be more.

thing with electronica music is that, most of them sound like its done by a 12-yr old kid whos managed to figure out how to use fruity loops.

there have been some decent local electronica music from at least 5-6yrs ago...nowadays not sure whats good out there with all the fruity loop warriors around.

because now computer software are so accessible, anyone also can be a producer, regardless of electronica or not. part of the reason why nowadays music so suck.

oh btw i bought this in cheras area (connaught if not wrong) quite some time ago...RM20 is not big sum but RM20 wei, i can eat 4 plates of delicious nasi lemak with big big ayam goreng...

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Added on December 31, 2008, 2:35 pmanyway, as a general rule of thumb, if you want to be successful, you must makan more pahit than any other people.

do nothing and sit there wait and day dream everyday will lead to nothing at all.

This post has been edited by little ice: Dec 31 2008, 02:35 PM

i bought bunkface's cd coz they put up a good show in my school. but their cd sucks. hahaha.

it's so hard to success in this industry eh......

estranged is popular bcoz the vocalist was from akademe fantasia

live show and studio recording is entirely different thing.

on the stage, some mistakes are not going to make much attention because you're enjoying the music show both using your ears AND your eyes, so the attentions are cut by half. but when you listen to CD, you're paying full attention to the music using your ears only that's why you hear different thing although it could be the exact same thing they did on the stage.