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 Footballing Excuses debunked!, Excuses given after having lost a game.

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nando
post Feb 5 2009, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 5 2009, 12:45 AM)
some people's post with status Elite is just crap ... never can read any neutral post from him ...

'protected' manager ? how many times this manager being fined and send to stand by FA ? oh ya ... he only read anything that he like to read ...
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1. YOU have never read any neutral post from him
OR
2. HE has never posted any neutral post?

because if its 1, then perhaps its a bit unfair to call people `crap'? Define crap? He gave a view and typed a few lines trying to explain and you call that crap...? gee... doh.gif doh.gif


sebelum post dan nak panggil orang crap tuh, pakai la otak sikit....especially when you want to link people's idea /view to their status.

In regard to excuses, i recalled used to be very sick of Houllier's many post-match interviews..hahah

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nando
post Feb 5 2009, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 5 2009, 09:20 AM)
Like I've said, using wealth as an excuse when one can't find success on the pitch is nonsense. The United team of the 90s weren't exactly brought in for an extravagant amount of money. And if you're gonna knock on that being the factor, Arsene and Arsenal have spent considerably less than Pool have in his reign, yet still manage to finish above them more often than once. Still, some ppl are gonna chastise me for saying this coz I'm a glory hunter fan (or a "typical United fan" you seem to like calling us) and I don't know crap about football so I shouldn't post.  rolleyes.gif
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I think in football, there are teams that have triumphed because of the injection of wealth and there are teams that have not moved on to bigger thing because of the lack of wealth. But then, once in a while, we also have teams achieving glory with limited resources and vice versa. That is why the topic can be controversial.

To me , its not wrong to cite the lack of funds as one of the reason for lack of success. Teams like Villa, Everton to me, can use this reason more than others.

Teams like MU and Chelsea will find it no longer viable to cite lack of wealth as failure (if they do fail in coming years) because we do know how much resources and also income these 2 teams generate...

For Arsenal, i wont blame the lack of wealth if they fail to achieve anything again, Rather, its the lack of utilization of funds. And by the way, they just splashed out some money for Arshavin. And is Arsene's reign really more succesful than Rafa for the past 4-5 seasons?

The difficult one is Liverpool. Its a big team, strong history. It is not a Villa, not Everton (in terms of fan base and $) but neither is it MU or Chelsea. To me, it is not right for Liverpool to blindly use the excuse `lack of funds' for our failure to win titles. But then, I do believe that if our financial status is stronger, there is a possibility we can purchase better players that might help to achieve success.

And its sometimes baseless to add value of players brought over few seasons and equal them to value of 1 player and said both clubs are equal in terms of spending. Its not. I've bought over my 10 years of driving several cars-second hand, Japanese, etc, which if i add on the total value, is equal to a price of 1 spanking new C200. Does it mean my financial status today is as good as the fella who walked into a Benz showroom and buy a C200 today?




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post Feb 5 2009, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 5 2009, 09:45 AM)
Aye, I do agree it is a factor. But some ppl keep harping on it and bringing it up to justify their losses that its becoming a lil bitter to swallow. The current City side is a good example of how money doesn't equal success. Spurs as well. Outspending their local rivals by a mile, yet they're the ones lingering in the bottom half fighting off relegation.

Yes, United benefited from the crop of players which came out from the academy. Our core then was built around players whom we've brought up. Nevilles, Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham. But Fergie carefully picked them out when he joined the side and it certainly took some very good scouting skills to pinch talents from around the area. Giggs for example was signed under City's noses when he was 15, and has never looked back.
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Your core was vital to success. But you needed the millions to surround your core with Rooney, Rio, Christiano and others. So its a milk + nice tea power = to nice teh tarik thingy...
I am of the opinion that SAF IS the most vital ingredient to MU's success. But after that, i cant differentiate if its the core youth players OR the millions that contributed.

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nando
post Feb 5 2009, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 5 2009, 10:15 AM)
Yea true. But one can also argue that our wealth was built thanks to the success of our 90s team. Its like when a young businessman strikes gold with his small business, and proceeds to use his newly found fortune to purchase a larger restaurant/franchise to expand his operations. Okay, not exactly the best anecdote, but you get it.
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Yeah, the non-footballing management in MU did well to generate funds. But at the end of the day, one cannot run away from funds to build a successful club.
nando
post Feb 5 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(saiga @ Feb 5 2009, 01:18 AM)
let him be... cannot even accept the truth  shocking.gif .  anyway, important is table position  thumbup.gif .
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Geee!!! brilliant! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
I now got excuse not to post anything because of Liverpool's position is lower than MU.... brilliant, mate!



speaking of excuses, i'm always intrigued by coaches/management banning WAG from being near players during an important tournament..with the excuse/reason that bed activities degrades a player's performances... laugh.gif laugh.gif

 

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