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 Footballing Excuses debunked!, Excuses given after having lost a game.

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Monstar
post Feb 5 2009, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 5 2009, 12:45 AM)
some people's post with status Elite is just crap ... never can read any neutral post from him ...

'protected' manager ? how many times this manager being fined and send to stand by FA ? oh ya ... he only read anything that he like to read ...
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Just name it out if you are going to talk crap about him. No point acting like a school girl. I am not going to defend him. I'll leave it to him. He is more than capable of dealing with pansies like you.

QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 5 2009, 12:59 AM)
Nothing to play for in the league since that team was out of the running in December. So all they had to concentrate on is the cup games. icon_rolleyes.gif
Benitez complaining about transfers. Not given enough money, but looking at the net spend, he's on par with us. air_mood has that list.. can't be arse to search for it. laugh.gif
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This list? http://www.paultomkins.com/blog_spending_detail.html

I dunno about you, but if you read the article thoroughly and look at it objectively, it is hard to deny that Rafa has less to spend than MU. I'm saying this based on facts not opinion.
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post Feb 5 2009, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 5 2009, 09:20 AM)
Like I've said, using wealth as an excuse when one can't find success on the pitch is nonsense. The United team of the 90s weren't exactly brought in for an extravagant amount of money. And if you're gonna knock on that being the factor, Arsene and Arsenal have spent considerably less than Pool have in his reign, yet still manage to finish above them more often than once. Still, some ppl are gonna chastise me for saying this coz I'm a glory hunter fan (or a "typical United fan" you seem to like calling us) and I don't know crap about football so I shouldn't post.  rolleyes.gif
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I agree with you that not having enough money is not the most valid excuse to not win the league but it is definitely a reason. I am sure you would agree with me on this. Yes, there are other ways to be successful, but with enough money, its just so much easier. I have never claimed that we don't have enough money to win the league. What I always say is we don't have enough money to compete on a level playing ground. It is definitely winnable, but it is going to be harder compared to our rivals.

And to compare the 90s team of MU to the current Liverpool crop is unfair. Although Ferguson did not outspend his rivals by a mile, he was definitely among the biggest spenders. Plus you had a lot of good players coming through the system at the same time, which is really rare and this process takes a while to achieve.

Ferguson had 8-10 years to tweak his youth policy to bring about that golden generation and its only fair that Rafa is given the same amount of time if you are going to judge him based on the players that come through the ranks. And yes, GH does not count, our youth policy until then was not the best to say the least. I'll admit that.

As for Arsenal, like I mentioned earlier, not having enough to spend is one of the factors. They managed to find a way to work around it. Kudos to them. Still does not take away the fact that financial muscle has huge implications on a team's title aspirations and performance.
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post Feb 5 2009, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 5 2009, 09:27 AM)
Only 16m less though. Not that much. Can buy what, 2 Dossenas, or a Robbie Keane(oops, not his own target eh? weak management then), or a Nunez with another Kuyt. The squad seem decent now though, just needed two really good wingers, and a good striker as backup for Torres/to partner him. Keane may have made a difference with Gerrard out last night.  Not Rafa's choice to buy him. Wonder why he took him anyway, and selling him midway half the season without replacement.
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Compare Liverpool's 2004 team to MU's 2004 team and honestly tell me who needs more work? And then take into consideration that despite that, we still spent 16m less. Which could potentially be a Robbie Keane or a Cronaldo.

And as for the Robbie Keane issue, just don't bother. Its too complicated. I hate to say this, but inside Liverpool's boardroom there is probably a cemetery worth of skeletons. Its s hit, I hate it. Fooking yanks.

 

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