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QUOTE(destroyer @ Dec 27 2008, 06:36 PM)
Hello everyody!
Since my last topic was closed because i mistakely make it look like an advertisement, so, I decided to open a new topic regarding career as a seafarer.
I'd like to introduce myself. I'm a student in Akademi Laut Malaysia(ALAM). I took diploma in marine engineering. The purpose i want to encourage more Malaysian into this industry is because we are currently lack of seafarer. Imagine, out of 6000 seafarers in malaysia, only 1000 are malaysians. The rest are foreigner.
First of all, what is seafarer?
-Seafarer is a person who carries various duties onboard ships. They will sail with the ship in order to transport goods that the customer want us to deliver.
-Btw, I'm just a student. And I only familiar with Marine Engineering and Nautical Course. Diploma of course. But if you have any doubts about this career. You can ask here. I'll try my best to answer it.
Where can I study the courses?
Right now, in Malaysia, there are three institutions of higher learning that provide sea-going course. Bare in mind that not all maritime related courses can ensure you to go sailing thus ensuring you to get the big bucks.
For example, in UMT, there are course called Degree in Nautical Studies & Maritime Management. They cannot sail as an officer unless they go for the cadetship practical onboard a ship.
Thats all, now I'll proceed into the institution part. There are few places to studies to prepare oneself to become sea-going officer/engineer.
1) Akademi Laut Malaysia(ALAM)
-Diploma in Marine Engineering(DNS)
-Diploma in Nautical Studies(DME)
-Marine Engineering Bridging Program(MEBP)*
2)Politeknik Ungku Omar
-Diploma in Marine Engineering
3)Sarawak Maritime Academy
-not sure about this. since they're just open this year
*for the Marine Engineering Bridging Program, the program just started this year. The cadets sponsored for this course are engineering related degree graduates. They are sponsored by MISC. If you miss the chance to apply during post-spm, but still want to pursue career onboard ship. You can apply this course. Btw, I'm not sure how to apply for it. But you can ask here and I can ask the bridging student about it.
*NOWADAYS, THERE ARE ALSO COMPANY SEEKING FOR MECHANICAL/MARINE ENGINEERING DEGREE GRADUATE TO DO THEIR CADETSHIP FOR 6 MONTH ONBOARD THEIR SHIP. AFTER COLLECTING SEATIME, THEY CAN TAKE THE ORAL TEST FROM MARDEP FOR CLASS 4 COC. I'LL TRY TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THIS.
Benefits of becoming a SEAFARER
1) Rewarding career. Cheapest pay is around rm7500 for fresh graduates of diploma. Imagine that. In my place of study, there were also company headhunting by offering salary of USD4800.
2) Experience gained make it easier for you to apply job on oil platform since you have an offshore working experience.
3) can save a lot of money. onboard ship, no need car. no need to pay rental for accommodation. free meal(every week can eat western). no need money to go to gym. onboard ship, gym is provided. got tv, some ship have internet facilities. some got pool/snooker table.
many more... I'll tell you guys later on.
Definition Of Marine Engineering
Something about MEBP program. this article i've taken from sombody blog. it is written in BM. hope you guys can understand it.
Definition of Nautical Studies
will be added later....
Salaries for seafarer. So you don't have any doubt about it anymore. This is from 1 company. others i'm not sure. should be more or same as this.
Min Salary + allowance. no income tax.
Deck Side
Master/Captain-USD 9500
Chief Officer -USD 7800/7500
2nd Officer -USD 4300/4000
3rd Officer -USD 3350/3250
Engine Side
Chief Engineer -USD 9500
2nd Engineer -USD 7800/7500
3rd Engineer -USD 4300/4000
4th Engineer -USD 3350/3250
Electrical
ETO(electric technical officer) -USD 4400
EE2(electrical engineer 2) -USD 3950
EE (electrical engineer)-USD 3250
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Educational Section. Past year question. if you've any latest past year question, please give it to me as I will put it in the 1st pst as a reference.
Past Year Oral Question For Class 4 Certificate of Competency, Motor (2005)(credit to senior ricky)
1. Preparation and how to dismantle fuel injector?
2.What are the bunker procedure before and after?
3. What preparation m/e at port?
4. Boiler water treatment?
5.If scale happened what is the effect?
6. State Ism code
7. What should you do when crankcase explosion happen?
8. Sign on as 4th engineer
9. Bunker what first if both DO and FO bunker barge come at the same time?
10. Scavenge fire
11. What is a boiler water test? How to prevent high alkalinity and acidity in feedwater?
12. How to check leaking in cylinder head?
13. Handing over responsibility to incoming eng.?
14. Sketch and explain IGG system.
15. Blow through the gauge glass procedure.
16. Boiler check done?
17. The function of fin on sunrod element
18. Sketch and explain LO purifying sys.
19. Sketch FO transfer sys. until service tank.
20. What is the cause of water in the m/e sump tank?
21. Taking over watch?
22. Prepare and synchronise generator?
23. Prepare main engine?
24. After hose down economizer what should be observe?
25. Preparation to overhaul exhausts v/v?
26. Pump for inspection
27. Dry-docking procedure?
28. Sketch fresh water generator line?
29. LO service system?
30. Weak vacuum in FWG
31. Procedure of flashing up boiler
32. Maintenance on safety v/v?
33. Procedure to enter confined space?
34. Sketch of fuel injector?
35. Sketch boiler feed water system?
36.Explain the advantage of water cooled and lubrication cooled piston?
37.Types of safety v/v :
38. Sketch the safety v/v?
39. Why motor start used star and then used delta connection. 40.Types of pump?
41. State marpol annexes?
42.How do you check the clearance for fuel injector?
43.If the thermometer on the temperature jacket is not the same what do you do?
44.What is metallurgy?
45.IMO is solas chapter what?
46.What is DOL starting?
extra: HOW TO TAKE OVER WATCH ACCORDING TO STCW REQUIREMENT?
1) Prior to taking over the engineering watch, the relieving officer shall be information by the officer in charge of the engineering watch as to:
a) The standing order of the day, any special orders relating to the ship operations, maintenance function, repairs to the ship’s machinery or control equipment;
b) The nature of all work being performed on machinery and system on board ship, personnel involved and potential hazards;
c) The level and condition, where applicable, of water or residue in bilges, ballast tanks, slop tanks, sewage tanks, reserve tanks, and special requirements for the use or disposal of the contents thereof;
d) Any special requirements relating to sanitary system disposals;
e) The conditions and state of readiness of portable fire-extinguishing equipment and fixed fire-extinguishing installation and fire-detection system;
f) Authorized repair personnel engaged in engineering activities, their work locations, and repair functions and other authorized persons on board and required crew.#;
g) Any port regulations pertaining to ship effluents, fire-fighting requirements and ship readiness, particularly during potential bad weather conditions;
h) The lines of communications available between the ship and shore personnel, including port authorities, in the event of an emergency arising or assistance being required;
i) Any other circumstance of importance to the safety of the ship, its crew, cargo or the protection of the environment from pollution; and
j) The procedures for notifying the appropriate authority of environmental pollution resulting from engineering activities.
2) Relieving officers, before assuming charge of the engineering watch, shall satisfy themselves that they are fully informed by the officer being relieved, as outlined above, and;
a) Be familiar with existing and potential sources of power, heat, and lighting and their distribution;
b) Know the availability and condition of ship’s fuel, lubricants, and all water supplies; and
c) Be ready to prepare the ship and its machinery, as far as possible, for stand-by of emergency conditions as required
_________________________________________________________________________________
Edited: just added this cause i think it is useful. coz i think most of visitors here might be from degree grad. this might be useful. I'm not promoting. just that many might not realise this opportunity.
MANAGEMENT TRAINEE PROGRAMME
The Person:
Fresh graduates with an Honours degree (Minimum CGPA of 3.00) in the following disciplines:
· Naval Architecture
· Engineering – Marine, Mechanical, Electrical, Structural and Civil
· Business Administration / Social Science / Psychology
· Accounting / Finance
· Transport & Logistics / Maritime Management
· Law / Legal Studies
· Economics
Candidates with 1 to 2 years of working experience with any of the above qualifications are also encouraged to apply.
Special Requirements:
Demonstrates a positive mindset and attitude.
Has effective leadership qualities and is seen as a role model.
Result-oriented with good interpersonal and communication skills.
Active involvement in extra-curricular activities in university or school.
Proficient in Bahasa Malaysia and English (both spoken & written).
The Programme:
The main focus is to prepare the candidates for the working environment by emphasizing on Leadership Qualities, Capability Development and Business Exposure.
Candidates will be exposed to MISC businesses in various departments and in subsidiary companies located in Kuala Lumpur/Klang Valley and Pasir Gudang.
The 9 months training programme will cover:
Generic Programme for Management Trainee
On the Job Training/Learning
Executive Career Development Program
Mentoring
Attachment onboard foreign-going vessels.
For those who meet the requirements and have a strong desire to take up the challenge, click now to apply.
link: http://misc.com.my/career_startcareer_managementtrainee.php
Since my last topic was closed because i mistakely make it look like an advertisement, so, I decided to open a new topic regarding career as a seafarer.
I'd like to introduce myself. I'm a student in Akademi Laut Malaysia(ALAM). I took diploma in marine engineering. The purpose i want to encourage more Malaysian into this industry is because we are currently lack of seafarer. Imagine, out of 6000 seafarers in malaysia, only 1000 are malaysians. The rest are foreigner.
First of all, what is seafarer?
-Seafarer is a person who carries various duties onboard ships. They will sail with the ship in order to transport goods that the customer want us to deliver.
-Btw, I'm just a student. And I only familiar with Marine Engineering and Nautical Course. Diploma of course. But if you have any doubts about this career. You can ask here. I'll try my best to answer it.
Where can I study the courses?
Right now, in Malaysia, there are three institutions of higher learning that provide sea-going course. Bare in mind that not all maritime related courses can ensure you to go sailing thus ensuring you to get the big bucks.
For example, in UMT, there are course called Degree in Nautical Studies & Maritime Management. They cannot sail as an officer unless they go for the cadetship practical onboard a ship.
Thats all, now I'll proceed into the institution part. There are few places to studies to prepare oneself to become sea-going officer/engineer.
1) Akademi Laut Malaysia(ALAM)
-Diploma in Marine Engineering(DNS)
-Diploma in Nautical Studies(DME)
-Marine Engineering Bridging Program(MEBP)*
2)Politeknik Ungku Omar
-Diploma in Marine Engineering
3)Sarawak Maritime Academy
-not sure about this. since they're just open this year
*for the Marine Engineering Bridging Program, the program just started this year. The cadets sponsored for this course are engineering related degree graduates. They are sponsored by MISC. If you miss the chance to apply during post-spm, but still want to pursue career onboard ship. You can apply this course. Btw, I'm not sure how to apply for it. But you can ask here and I can ask the bridging student about it.
*NOWADAYS, THERE ARE ALSO COMPANY SEEKING FOR MECHANICAL/MARINE ENGINEERING DEGREE GRADUATE TO DO THEIR CADETSHIP FOR 6 MONTH ONBOARD THEIR SHIP. AFTER COLLECTING SEATIME, THEY CAN TAKE THE ORAL TEST FROM MARDEP FOR CLASS 4 COC. I'LL TRY TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THIS.
Benefits of becoming a SEAFARER
1) Rewarding career. Cheapest pay is around rm7500 for fresh graduates of diploma. Imagine that. In my place of study, there were also company headhunting by offering salary of USD4800.
2) Experience gained make it easier for you to apply job on oil platform since you have an offshore working experience.
3) can save a lot of money. onboard ship, no need car. no need to pay rental for accommodation. free meal(every week can eat western). no need money to go to gym. onboard ship, gym is provided. got tv, some ship have internet facilities. some got pool/snooker table.
many more... I'll tell you guys later on.
Definition Of Marine Engineering
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Marine engineers are the members of a ship's crew that operate and maintain the propulsion and other systems on board the vessel. Marine Engineering staff also deal with the "Hotel" facilities on board, notably the sewage, lighting, air conditioning and water systems. They deal with bulk fuel transfers, and require training in firefighting and first aid, as well as in dealing with the ship's boats and other nautical tasks- especially with cargo loading/discharging gear and safety systems, though the specific cargo discharge function remains the responsibility of deck officers and deck workers.
Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.
Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.
Something about MEBP program. this article i've taken from sombody blog. it is written in BM. hope you guys can understand it.
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Terbuka untuk graduan Sarjana Muda dalam Kejuruteraan Mekanikal Ataupun Mekatronik di universiti tempatan ataupun luar negara.
Semua training/modular course ditanggung sepenuhnya oleh MISC Bhd
Training di jalankan di Akademi Laut Malaysia cawangan Batu Rakit. Modular course di jalankan di kampus utama, Melaka.
Tempoh latihan adalah 7 bulan. 1 Bulan adalah Modular Course dan 6 bulan adalah Marine Engineering. Remember, this is compress course and we need to absorb as much as we can.
Di Alam, dikenali sebagai Brigding Cadet. Elaun training adalah lebih daripada kadet kerana mostly drpd kami sudah mempunyai komitmen keluarga.
1st batch bridging programme terdiri drpd 27 org. 3 drpdnya sudah berumahtangga. Paling muda adalah yang berusia 23tahun[1985] yang paling tua berumur adalah berusia lebih kurang 28 tahun[1980]
6 Bulan di Batu Rakit Kampus. Telah dipecahkan kepada 2 Fasa. Semua subjek adalah untuk COC WKE Class 4. Subjek yang telah dipelajari di universiti, hanya akan ditranfser kredit untuk lulus kelayakan MARDEP. [e.g Termodynamic]
Subjek Fasa 1: Marine Engineering Knowlegde, Electrotechnology, Control And Automation, Introduction to Shipping and Marine Engineering, Naval Architecture and Marine Lab.
Subjek Fasa 2: Marine Plant Maintenance, Engineering Knowledge Motor, General, Steam, Marine Electrical Practice, Maritime Law
Selepas 6bulan, kami akan terus menjalani praktical atas kapal untuk 9 bulan sebab syarat drpd MARDEP memsti mempunyai minimum 9bulan belayar sebelum menjalani ujian WKE class 4. April 2009 dijangka akan start praktikal.
After 9 month praktikal, kami akan terus membuat persediaan untuk COC WKE Class 4.
Basic gaji adalah berlainan sedikit sewaktu menjadi 5th Engineer and 4th Engineer sahaja. +RM700(totalling around rm 8k)
Sewaktu di ALAM, semua bridging cadet juga terikat dengan semua peraturan ALAM. Rambut pendek, fall-in, row call, colours, PT, room inspection. Makan juga adalah di GALLEY.
Kontrak dengan MISC Bhd akan tamat selepas 3 tahun mendapat COC Class 1. About 7 years. Insyallah.
We are the pioneer batch. The syllabus got kelam-kabut sedikit, but the course advisor manage to handle the problem. We heard the 2nd and 3rd batch are ready. The intake is around May and August.
Marine Engineer adalah berlainan dengan Engineer darat. In university, we learn mostly theory and design. But for marine engineer, more hands on, more maintenance and more exposure. Until today, I gain much knowledge about boiler, steam turbine, 4-stroke, 2-stroke diesel engine, pump, compressor, generator, purifier, and a lot.
Semua training/modular course ditanggung sepenuhnya oleh MISC Bhd
Training di jalankan di Akademi Laut Malaysia cawangan Batu Rakit. Modular course di jalankan di kampus utama, Melaka.
Tempoh latihan adalah 7 bulan. 1 Bulan adalah Modular Course dan 6 bulan adalah Marine Engineering. Remember, this is compress course and we need to absorb as much as we can.
Di Alam, dikenali sebagai Brigding Cadet. Elaun training adalah lebih daripada kadet kerana mostly drpd kami sudah mempunyai komitmen keluarga.
1st batch bridging programme terdiri drpd 27 org. 3 drpdnya sudah berumahtangga. Paling muda adalah yang berusia 23tahun[1985] yang paling tua berumur adalah berusia lebih kurang 28 tahun[1980]
6 Bulan di Batu Rakit Kampus. Telah dipecahkan kepada 2 Fasa. Semua subjek adalah untuk COC WKE Class 4. Subjek yang telah dipelajari di universiti, hanya akan ditranfser kredit untuk lulus kelayakan MARDEP. [e.g Termodynamic]
Subjek Fasa 1: Marine Engineering Knowlegde, Electrotechnology, Control And Automation, Introduction to Shipping and Marine Engineering, Naval Architecture and Marine Lab.
Subjek Fasa 2: Marine Plant Maintenance, Engineering Knowledge Motor, General, Steam, Marine Electrical Practice, Maritime Law
Selepas 6bulan, kami akan terus menjalani praktical atas kapal untuk 9 bulan sebab syarat drpd MARDEP memsti mempunyai minimum 9bulan belayar sebelum menjalani ujian WKE class 4. April 2009 dijangka akan start praktikal.
After 9 month praktikal, kami akan terus membuat persediaan untuk COC WKE Class 4.
Basic gaji adalah berlainan sedikit sewaktu menjadi 5th Engineer and 4th Engineer sahaja. +RM700(totalling around rm 8k)
Sewaktu di ALAM, semua bridging cadet juga terikat dengan semua peraturan ALAM. Rambut pendek, fall-in, row call, colours, PT, room inspection. Makan juga adalah di GALLEY.
Kontrak dengan MISC Bhd akan tamat selepas 3 tahun mendapat COC Class 1. About 7 years. Insyallah.
We are the pioneer batch. The syllabus got kelam-kabut sedikit, but the course advisor manage to handle the problem. We heard the 2nd and 3rd batch are ready. The intake is around May and August.
Marine Engineer adalah berlainan dengan Engineer darat. In university, we learn mostly theory and design. But for marine engineer, more hands on, more maintenance and more exposure. Until today, I gain much knowledge about boiler, steam turbine, 4-stroke, 2-stroke diesel engine, pump, compressor, generator, purifier, and a lot.
Definition of Nautical Studies
will be added later....
Salaries for seafarer. So you don't have any doubt about it anymore. This is from 1 company. others i'm not sure. should be more or same as this.
Min Salary + allowance. no income tax.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Deck Side
Master/Captain-USD 9500
Chief Officer -USD 7800/7500
2nd Officer -USD 4300/4000
3rd Officer -USD 3350/3250
Engine Side
Chief Engineer -USD 9500
2nd Engineer -USD 7800/7500
3rd Engineer -USD 4300/4000
4th Engineer -USD 3350/3250
Electrical
ETO(electric technical officer) -USD 4400
EE2(electrical engineer 2) -USD 3950
EE (electrical engineer)-USD 3250
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Educational Section. Past year question. if you've any latest past year question, please give it to me as I will put it in the 1st pst as a reference.
Past Year Oral Question For Class 4 Certificate of Competency, Motor (2005)(credit to senior ricky)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
1. Preparation and how to dismantle fuel injector?
2.What are the bunker procedure before and after?
3. What preparation m/e at port?
4. Boiler water treatment?
5.If scale happened what is the effect?
6. State Ism code
7. What should you do when crankcase explosion happen?
8. Sign on as 4th engineer
9. Bunker what first if both DO and FO bunker barge come at the same time?
10. Scavenge fire
11. What is a boiler water test? How to prevent high alkalinity and acidity in feedwater?
12. How to check leaking in cylinder head?
13. Handing over responsibility to incoming eng.?
14. Sketch and explain IGG system.
15. Blow through the gauge glass procedure.
16. Boiler check done?
17. The function of fin on sunrod element
18. Sketch and explain LO purifying sys.
19. Sketch FO transfer sys. until service tank.
20. What is the cause of water in the m/e sump tank?
21. Taking over watch?
22. Prepare and synchronise generator?
23. Prepare main engine?
24. After hose down economizer what should be observe?
25. Preparation to overhaul exhausts v/v?
26. Pump for inspection
27. Dry-docking procedure?
28. Sketch fresh water generator line?
29. LO service system?
30. Weak vacuum in FWG
31. Procedure of flashing up boiler
32. Maintenance on safety v/v?
33. Procedure to enter confined space?
34. Sketch of fuel injector?
35. Sketch boiler feed water system?
36.Explain the advantage of water cooled and lubrication cooled piston?
37.Types of safety v/v :
38. Sketch the safety v/v?
39. Why motor start used star and then used delta connection. 40.Types of pump?
41. State marpol annexes?
42.How do you check the clearance for fuel injector?
43.If the thermometer on the temperature jacket is not the same what do you do?
44.What is metallurgy?
45.IMO is solas chapter what?
46.What is DOL starting?
extra: HOW TO TAKE OVER WATCH ACCORDING TO STCW REQUIREMENT?
1) Prior to taking over the engineering watch, the relieving officer shall be information by the officer in charge of the engineering watch as to:
a) The standing order of the day, any special orders relating to the ship operations, maintenance function, repairs to the ship’s machinery or control equipment;
b) The nature of all work being performed on machinery and system on board ship, personnel involved and potential hazards;
c) The level and condition, where applicable, of water or residue in bilges, ballast tanks, slop tanks, sewage tanks, reserve tanks, and special requirements for the use or disposal of the contents thereof;
d) Any special requirements relating to sanitary system disposals;
e) The conditions and state of readiness of portable fire-extinguishing equipment and fixed fire-extinguishing installation and fire-detection system;
f) Authorized repair personnel engaged in engineering activities, their work locations, and repair functions and other authorized persons on board and required crew.#;
g) Any port regulations pertaining to ship effluents, fire-fighting requirements and ship readiness, particularly during potential bad weather conditions;
h) The lines of communications available between the ship and shore personnel, including port authorities, in the event of an emergency arising or assistance being required;
i) Any other circumstance of importance to the safety of the ship, its crew, cargo or the protection of the environment from pollution; and
j) The procedures for notifying the appropriate authority of environmental pollution resulting from engineering activities.
2) Relieving officers, before assuming charge of the engineering watch, shall satisfy themselves that they are fully informed by the officer being relieved, as outlined above, and;
a) Be familiar with existing and potential sources of power, heat, and lighting and their distribution;
b) Know the availability and condition of ship’s fuel, lubricants, and all water supplies; and
c) Be ready to prepare the ship and its machinery, as far as possible, for stand-by of emergency conditions as required
_________________________________________________________________________________
Edited: just added this cause i think it is useful. coz i think most of visitors here might be from degree grad. this might be useful. I'm not promoting. just that many might not realise this opportunity.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
MANAGEMENT TRAINEE PROGRAMME
The Person:
Fresh graduates with an Honours degree (Minimum CGPA of 3.00) in the following disciplines:
· Naval Architecture
· Engineering – Marine, Mechanical, Electrical, Structural and Civil
· Business Administration / Social Science / Psychology
· Accounting / Finance
· Transport & Logistics / Maritime Management
· Law / Legal Studies
· Economics
Candidates with 1 to 2 years of working experience with any of the above qualifications are also encouraged to apply.
Special Requirements:
Demonstrates a positive mindset and attitude.
Has effective leadership qualities and is seen as a role model.
Result-oriented with good interpersonal and communication skills.
Active involvement in extra-curricular activities in university or school.
Proficient in Bahasa Malaysia and English (both spoken & written).
The Programme:
The main focus is to prepare the candidates for the working environment by emphasizing on Leadership Qualities, Capability Development and Business Exposure.
Candidates will be exposed to MISC businesses in various departments and in subsidiary companies located in Kuala Lumpur/Klang Valley and Pasir Gudang.
The 9 months training programme will cover:
Generic Programme for Management Trainee
On the Job Training/Learning
Executive Career Development Program
Mentoring
Attachment onboard foreign-going vessels.
For those who meet the requirements and have a strong desire to take up the challenge, click now to apply.
link: http://misc.com.my/career_startcareer_managementtrainee.php
well bro thx for the info i didnt knw we had so many foreigners doing SEAFARER in our country !
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