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post Dec 3 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 3 2014, 02:22 PM)
Hi All,

I would like to ask. Assuming if i tender my resignation at 1st of january 2015 and i have 14 days AL, am i entitled to use the 14 days AL to knock down my 1 month notice or am i only entitled for 1.16 days as i've only worked for 1/12 months for 2015
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The latter. Unless there is a specific policy that states you are granted the full allocation of your leave on 1st Jan, you usually would have to 'earn' it month by month.

And do check when your annual leave gets refresh, as some companies do not allow carry forward leave, thus any leaves you did not take would be considered burned.


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post Dec 4 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 3 2014, 09:51 PM)
Hi Fuzzy, thanks for the reply.

My AL renew at 1st Jan 2015. So if i were to send resignation, i must serve 1 month notice from the date of resignation.

In this case, after deducting 8 days of leave ( saturday /sunday) and 1 day of "earned" AL, i still need to serve the remaining 20-21 working days,

Is this calculation correct?
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That is most likely the case. You will have one AL to use..
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post Dec 4 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 4 2014, 12:43 PM)
Then if resigned at 1st January 2015 but bonus has not been paid yet. Am i still entitled for the full year bonus which i've completed my service in 2014?
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Very unlikely. Most company would put in place the rule that an employee must be in active service on bonus payment day.

Some even do not allow people who tendered but still in service on the day.
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post Dec 4 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 4 2014, 02:57 PM)
ah, then it's a very confusing situation whereby at december we know our bonus result but company pay in march  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  . that's 3 month wasted down the drain
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Bonus is at discretion of the company, that is why they are not bound by law to pay, unless you have things like guaranteed bonus or such. Even so, usually there would be a clause that you need to be in active service on payout date.

Payment is in March because the financials only gets finalised in January (to determine profit and loss), then subsequently the other two months to do the necessary prep.
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Dec 17 2014, 11:33 AM)
One quick question guys.

Since I'm on a contract job, which requires me to hand in my resignation letter 1 week before, let's say I wanted to resign on 31st December 2014 (meaning that I have to hand it resignation letter on 24th December 2014?)

And on my salary, since I'll be working up until 31st December, does my salary being counted as 1 month full salary?

Hoping for clarifications from all the sifus.

Thank you.
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Most likely yes and yes.
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post Feb 4 2015, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(melol @ Feb 4 2015, 05:14 PM)
Let's Say I have tendered today 4th Feb , with 2 months resignation period , so my last day should be on 4th April, & bonus payout in March .

Any possibility that I still entitle to the bonus pay out?
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You are eligible for it, not necessary entitled to one. It is much to the prerogative of your boss and company whether they want to still give you bonus or not.

Most often, bosses and companies would take away whatever intended bonus for those who tendered or resigned before the payout period. What people often do is to request of a sign-on / guaranteed bonus from the new company who wants you to join before the payout to compensate for your 'losses' in this current role. Working in a bank? wink.gif
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Feb 10 2015, 11:16 PM)
Any part of the labor law that states that one is entitled to the full payment of salary, bonus, etc etc after tendering resignation letter?
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I can't remember off-hand, but any amount stated in the contract have to honored, so salary will still be payable. What most companies do is to prorate the salary.

But bonus comes with a caveat that is is to the discretion of the management, which is why they can decide to pull back any recommendations when you tender.
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Feb 11 2015, 08:50 AM)
I see. I was under the impression that bonus is part of the salary hence some companies put it as 13 month salary package.
Thanks for the clarification.
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There are contractual bonuses and performance bonuses. You will need to find out which is the one you signed up for.

Contractual bonuses are usually bound by the contract that it must be paid, though do read up on the contract if there are any clauses for them to retract in the event of tendering of resignation.
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QUOTE(Dark9 @ Feb 4 2016, 05:00 PM)
omg ...I want.. i dont know how to discuss with my HOD and HR... Delima owhh... serba salah want to say..
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Craft your story. Know well clear why you are leaving. Ask for personal time, stick to the facts.
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post Feb 15 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Feb 14 2016, 02:21 AM)
What if i just go mia after tendering my resignation without serving the 2 months notice period.
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You can be hauled up to the Labour court or worse, black listed from the industry if it is small and close knitted. You are much better off paying the penalty (or getting your new company to pay it) than to resort to this.
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Imma tell HR to blacklist you tongue.gif
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QUOTE(3layertea @ May 18 2016, 07:40 PM)
Hi guys,

Hope u guys can give some opinion on my situation smile.gif

I resigned from my former company a month back and have started working for a new company for close to 2 weeks now. During my notice period, I didnt have time to search for ideal job coz I was really busy. An offer (my current company) came from a recruitment agency that got my profile frm a colleague. The pay is much higher than my old job. It was 50/50 for me coz I know how harsh the environment is and coz of location. But i thought, what the heck just accept it and take up the challenge! I was quite determined but still had doubts. Even wen signing letter also still doubt. Anyway, turned out that I dont like the environment and so exhausting coz have to go back late almost everyday. (The recruiter said my position dnt hv to go bck late). And its freakin far frm my house.

I searched for new job and find a really interesting position with a really exciting company. They called for iview next week.

I regret taking up my current job. I should just wait and keep on searching. Now, i really wanna quit. My notice is one month under probation. Is it advisable that I wait until my gaji (next week) and tender resign letter so i can pay back the one month salary or tender now and ask if they can reduce the notice?
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If I understand you, you are talking about the penalty they might impose should you leave early.

Do not resign first until you are confirmed to get a new job. If you do, ask the new company to pay that one month notice.

If you intend to resign anyhow, it doesn't really matter if you plan to serve out the notice, as even if you tender today, you will still have 4 weeks and your salary will still be paid.
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QUOTE(3layertea @ May 18 2016, 08:53 PM)
Sorry for the long winded explaination lol

Basically I want to resign. Reason being the environment + crazy working hours.

The salary pay date is 26th. I thought if I resign before the date I will not get paid?
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No such thing. You are entitled to a pay, and even if you tendered resignation, you will still have to serve out your notice period so you will get paid until the last day of your work. Do not let the HR say otherwise. They can deduct for things like leave if you took more than you have earned, etc but they cannot hold your salary back for no good reason.

QUOTE(fylon @ May 23 2016, 06:23 PM)
Hello guys, need a head for my resignation.

Ok, here its. I got hired under the head office in KL, but I'm based in Kuching but I'm on special order to report directly to SG country manager .

So now I got a better job offer and I got asked to sign it within, I'm kinda blur on where should I send the my resignation letter to? And since I recruit by KL head office and I got my offer email via airmail, should I do the same by send my resignation via airmail as well? confused.gif
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You address it to your immediate manager, whomever that is.

You can do it in private to him/her via e-mail with a pdf copy attached usually, but company practice might differ.
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QUOTE(fylon @ May 24 2016, 09:46 PM)
Thanks for the head up bro. Just got to sign my offer letter, time to end up 8 years 24/7 on call life. flex.gif Gonna check with local HR for all the leaver SOP since I'm holding company's stuff like laptop, med card also.

On a site note, those item that has already write off from company do I still need to return them? I'm actually working as an onsite network engineer and there's couple of equipment that still working but already write off and lying around my place.
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Well, if they know they would want it kot.. you can always feign ignorance until they ask for it back whistling.gif
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QUOTE(3layertea @ May 27 2016, 11:24 PM)
So here's an update. I finally talked to my supervisor and handed my resign letter. He's quite cool about it and HR adviced to work till d end of this month and waive the rest of the notice period. Which is fine by me.

Went to the interview on Wednesday and still havent heard from them. Somehow I dont think I did that well, otherwise they would have called by today right sad.gif I was super confident I can nail the interview coz I am a perfect fit for d job. Oh well just gonna wait for their call and at d same time keep searching for suitable job.

Already thinking to withdraw my resignation but i feel so malu already and is it even possible to do that.

To anyone whos facing the same situation like me, dont resign until u have sign d offer letter. U'll end up feeling not so good inside haha like what im feeling now. Haih dilemma of working life... Never ending dilemma
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Never resign until you have a job offer bro... Best of luck to you console.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 31 2016, 10:09 AM)
I am wondering what do you people usually do when your notice is 2 months and you pretty much have nothing to do in office.
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Handovers and wrapping up of whatever is in your plate lo. Or if you are lucky (like me), you get to go on garden leave nod.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 31 2016, 01:55 PM)
My plate empty d laugh.gif

Guess gonna sit down for the 2 months and tend to my "office gardening" then  blush.gif
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I was placed on garden leave bro, meaning I was not allowed to masuk office while I serve that period .. So i had like few weeks of free time just sitting at home although no garden to tend to heh..

Arrange your farewells then, always good to leave with good feelings intact, industries are small so connections always matter.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 31 2016, 01:59 PM)
I'd wish they put me on garden leave rather than sitting here and answer phones laugh.gif

Farewells already arranged, sent out goodbyes and handed over the work to the new guy already.
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QUOTE(marsha1l @ Aug 14 2016, 02:15 PM)
Hi all,

Contract mention that within 1 year after confirmation as permanent staff i resign, i need to pay rmxx as penalty.

let say 5 Oct is my 1 year period as permanent staff, if i submit resignation letter  by this month, with 2 month notice, resign by 10th oct, am i breaching the contract?
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Look at how the contract is worded. From what you write, it says if you resign within a year not if you cease employment, so no, if u resign in Aug it will be considered as breaching of the contract.
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QUOTE(marsha1l @ Aug 18 2016, 07:03 AM)
it is similar as this : "in the event you resign or employment is terminated for misconduct/performance issues within the first
year of employment"

somewhere along those line. Notice for termination is 2 month. So resign later than 5th october. I suppose they dont take the date i tender my resignation notice as resign date ?  confused.gif
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I'll say they will take the date of your resignation being effective (date you put in letter) as the resign date, not your last physical day.

The moment you put in letter and it is accepted, you are considered resignee. So in this case, im pretty sure they have the right to ask for that compensation.

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