Submit on Monday morning, it'll be Sunday (assume you working on Sat/Sun).
Otherwise, Fri is last day if Mon-Fri job.

thanks

Hey guys,

i got a minor issue. I have been offered by a company to begin a new job on the 2nd week of September. I have a 3 months notice period to serve in my old company and the new company will buy out my notice period. This means, I will only have less than 5 days to perform a handover if I were to tender my resignation on Monday. Can the old company take any action towards me?

For further information, I am actually in a managerial role, and there is no way i can complete projects in hand as it will drag for months. The best i can do is handover all outstanding items in the next 3-4 days.

Appreciate any kind advises on how I should approach the sounds from my bosses when I tender on Monday with just a very short period of notice. Should I tell them the truth about why I am resigning, or should I just mention personal family problems etc etc.

1) seriously, you are in trouble. Especially you are in managerial role.

2) I'm sure you aware, your industry can be very small and everyone knows each another.

3) even if u jump to other industry, still the world can be small. My point is, your name will be tarnished among the word-of-mouth for quite some time.

4) it's too late, but even with buyout, IMHO you still need minimum 1 month to do handover.

5) old company can't take action, provided the new company payback in full.

6) never lie. Refer above points. Gossips go around, and if u lie, your already tarnish credibility, I think it'll bring your reputation down to lowest level.

7) of course there are some exceptions, e.g. U are top salesman can bring in 1000% sales continuously, your skillset is highly sought after and very rare...

Thank for the feedback. Yes i get your point. I will definitely tell the truth.

Oh well, the turnover in my industry is extremely high, even at managerial level. My guess is, 1 month itself may not be sufficient for handover, hence the 3 months notice period.

But that being said, opportunities like this is rather rare, and if I don't join the new company soon, I will miss out on the knowledge transfer which will be held in the following 2 weeks.

Any tips on how do I handle the resignation process in the next 3 working days?

I think the question always come back as any other company willing to buy you out or not and that is pretty resolved.

In term of law, you aren't going to offend any.

Yes, your manager may not like you but I do not think he has the ability to blacklist you since you do nothing wrong! Unless if you intend to come back to this company, if the hiring manager has any relationship and have any knowledge of you then it may affect.

I don't think there will be any remark noted in HR record, and if you have I do not think it has any real impact in case you are coming back in future. The ball is in the hiring manager, and once he likes you and want you it will then be further validated by HR and at most HR may just submit a recommendation from the reference they have and if he still want you, you are accepted.

Again, I don't think it affects the hiring unless the manager thinks he does not want you after HR submitted the recommendation...
but during the interview I think your resume speaks for itself and you should already have spoken to him during the interview.

Well, if this is really a good future and good opportunity then I will advise you to go for it. Legally you are compliance so why worry? Nobody is going to be sorry for you if you do not earn enough in the future. I am working in a global MNC company and what happen is when they are moving for cost cutting, a workforce reduction letter is shown to you without sympathy.

You yourself determine your future and as long as we are compliance, why worry too much?

I don't mind working on extra to do the handover and that's the most I can and will do. Consider I respect the company so much but as far as I know, only I myself is answerable to my own future.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. Different industry/company could be different but I think most MNC has a B&W process in everything, emotional thingy cannot be documented down just as in any small or china-man company for a later backlash.

Legally Wrong - No you aren't as long as you fulfilled whatever in the T&C of your contract of employment.
Morally Wrong - You decide for yourself and just make sure that you do not regret on your decision, leave or stay. Morally wise you already do your best by even working extra hours without any compensation.

Good luck mate!

This post has been edited by davidlow7: Sep 1 2012, 12:06 AM

Hi, would like to ask a question

My sister resigned during her probation period in which she has to serve only 1 day notice. Soon later, she was told by her former supervisor that no salary will be paid however this term was not expressly stated nor it can be implied into the contract. Isn't you work and you get paid, pls advice

This post has been edited by rose_tea: Sep 3 2012, 09:28 PM

The employment letter speaks of all

just heard from friend lately, he & some colleagues was threatened by company hr to pay off 7,000 ringgit malaysia & 2-3 mth notice period when being terminated recently.
is there any law clause to protect the employee?
we need advice to cope with this situation badly.

i'm not disclosing the name of company, but kinda small local it company at bandar puteri puchong.

Hi all, need advice here... I tendered my resignation last week and last day should be end of Sept. I've confirmed with future employer that be starting my new job on 1st Oct.

However manager approached me today and advised me to take layoff package instead but end date will be another month later (end of Oct). I was asked to negotiate with future employer if I can join 1 month later.

If go by layoff package, I will be compensated in terms of $$, but I heard those that took layoff package will not be allowed to re-join current company in future.

And after talking to management, they seems prefer me to take layoff package more than standard resignation.

I'm still figuring out whats the logic they are doing this... have yet to receive terms and conditions regarding the layoff package too...

Perhaps someone here can shed some lights for me...

Thanks in advance.

prob solved^^

This post has been edited by yoyo_icecube: Oct 10 2012, 05:14 AM

Very simple, the manager has layoff target need to achieve. If you resigned as attrition, he need to find another guy to layoff.
This is management game and at the end the package to be paid by the company, but your manager. At the same time, he is achieving his target

a quick question here guys:-

whats the standard procedure for a resignation,

1)Get the offer letter from the new company,
2)resign with my current company,
3)sign the offer letter and hand to the new company
4)serve 1 month notice in the current company

What if i only sign and submit the offer letter on my 1st day working in the new company? Is the job secured then? Or i need to submit to the new company pre hand before that ?

Check whether there is any remarks stating the valid period of the offer. (New employment letter, if no...you are safe to do so)

Normal practise, always received an offer letter before you submit your resignation. Since you have received the offer letter, you are safe to tender. Try not to drag future employer too long as they are also in hurry to get the replacement. (I believe the employer will push you to sign the letter anyhow)

you are right Nuke. They shouldn't even need to see the letter, they just need to offer you what they think you are worth to the company. It's kinda offensive for them wanting to see it

1)Get the offer letter from the new company,
3)2)sign the offer letter and hand to the new company. Keep a copy yourself.
2)3)resign with my current company,
4)serve 1 month notice as per existing employment-contract in the current company

The signed offer letter is important, to prove a contract is enforced, i.e. offer + acceptance.
An offer without an acceptance is not a contract, and the new company can say you did not sign it and the offer is withdrawn.

usually, you keep the signed copy, u don't need to sign it. they will give a certain period. so u can resign first.

Or if you want to use the offer letter to ask your current company to give higher pay, then don't sign first loh

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Added on October 31, 2012, 11:08 amI want to ask, if there a reason why the people who resign in the company I'm working in refuse to let others to know which company they are going to? After they left the company, only they let others know. Is there some unwritten rule about this?

This post has been edited by williamjr: Oct 31 2012, 11:08 AM

Today is my 1st day working, then got an offer from mnc & i want to join the mnc.
Is it ok to give a 24 hr resignation letter?

This post has been edited by kjisdaman: Nov 1 2012, 12:10 PM

i have question, i got a job recently, the company need me to start work within 2 weeks but my resignation notice period is 2 months and my annual leave has 17 days, i'm willing to pay for the short notice but my superior claim me give short lead time notice and told me company can choose to not accept your compensation but in my letter of appointment it stated "After confirmation of service,the notice shall be 2months in writting. Failling to do so, salary in lieu of notice may be given by either party"

Can company refuse to let me leave early even i willing to pay for the compensation?