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post Sep 4 2020, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(fahrurh @ Aug 30 2020, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys.

I just want to ask about resignation period, if somebody here can help advise.

Currently I'm employed as a manager in a small SME company for more than 7 years now.
Previously right after MCO was announced in March, the company immediately decided to slash all employees' salary by 50% and force us to work only half of the total days per month.
The pay cut is still being implemented even now, without employees black & white consent.
Recently i have been seriously planning to resign and had casually ask HR about the tender notice required.
HR replied that as per contract i have to serve 3 months notice because I'm manager level.

But i wonder, if they cut my salary 50% doesn't that mean they have breached my employment contract? So do I still have to adhere to the 3 months notice period?

Btw I'm planning to give one month notice only no more no less. I'm not that heartless to give 24 hour notice.
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I dont think pay cut = shorter notice period. There is no such rules.

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QUOTE(fahrurh @ Aug 30 2020, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys.

I just want to ask about resignation period, if somebody here can help advise.

Currently I'm employed as a manager in a small SME company for more than 7 years now.
Previously right after MCO was announced in March, the company immediately decided to slash all employees' salary by 50% and force us to work only half of the total days per month.
The pay cut is still being implemented even now, without employees black & white consent.
Recently i have been seriously planning to resign and had casually ask HR about the tender notice required.
HR replied that as per contract i have to serve 3 months notice because I'm manager level.

But i wonder, if they cut my salary 50% doesn't that mean they have breached my employment contract? So do I still have to adhere to the 3 months notice period?

Btw I'm planning to give one month notice only no more no less. I'm not that heartless to give 24 hour notice.
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Yes, 3 months is in place.

If you intend to only serve one month, you will have to pay the 2 months in lieu.
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post Nov 26 2020, 09:33 PM

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During this work from home time, how do you guys send resignation notice letter?

Is it appropriate through email? My team, my CIO, Head HR all WFH since mco.

Also in the letter should i address to the Head HR or my CIO? Or should i prepare 2 letter address to each of them? Or 1 letter only?

Cannot tahan d, but need to serve 3 months notice zz


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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 26 2020, 09:33 PM)
During this work from home time, how do you guys send resignation notice letter?

Is it appropriate through email? My team, my CIO, Head HR all WFH since mco.

Also in the letter should i address to the Head HR or my CIO? Or should i prepare 2 letter address to each of them? Or 1 letter only?

Cannot tahan d, but need to serve 3 months notice zz
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Your HOD no need to know about this. Just your direct report upline and HR exec/AM who does staff enrolling.

Send email to your direct report upline, CC HR only. HOD no need.
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Hello guys, I see that most of the discussion here are based on the employees side. However, I fall under the employer side and I have a situation here.

An employee of mine was let go under probation but he was left extremely bitter because he didn't get the position while his other colleague got it.

After he left, he changed the passwords and deleted all our company's information, which I have screenshot proof already.

May I please know what are the things or actions I can take here? He still has not returned us access card and company phone.
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In resignation letter, should we to our direct supervisor (i.e team lead) or directly to the HOD (i.e. direct supervisor's boss)? Anyone can share experience?
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QUOTE(Michael_Light @ Apr 4 2021, 02:50 PM)
In resignation letter, should we to our direct supervisor (i.e team lead) or directly to the HOD (i.e. direct supervisor's boss)? Anyone can share experience?
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Send it to the person in mentioned in your offer letter, that's your official boss.

Butttttt, as a matter of courtesy, you should still inform your direct supervisor before blindsiding him/her. But don't listen if they beg you to stay, if you've already made up your mind.
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QUOTE(skyuo23 @ Jan 3 2021, 07:19 PM)
Hello guys, I see that most of the discussion here are based on the employees side. However, I fall under the employer side and I have a situation here.

An employee of mine was let go under probation but he was left extremely bitter because he didn't get the position while his other colleague got it.

After he left, he changed the passwords and deleted all our company's information, which I have screenshot proof already.

May I please know what are the things or actions I can take here? He still has not returned us access card and company phone.
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Has the company paid ALL his salaries? If not, deduct from there? Otherwise, call labor office and seek for advise

QUOTE(Michael_Light @ Apr 4 2021, 02:50 PM)
In resignation letter, should we to our direct supervisor (i.e team lead) or directly to the HOD (i.e. direct supervisor's boss)? Anyone can share experience?
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Just to add on for Lysentrix

If your offer letter did not mention who is your superior

You can also send to your TL because eventually he or she will have to discuss or inform the HOD

Important is you keep proof you sent it

If via e-mail even better, can cc HR as well

But formality wise this depends on HR policy (eg. my ex company HR policy stated official document for resignation is employee separation form, even letter is only a supporting)
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I am currently working in accounting firm starting Jan this year, beginner, and I found my manager is too picky over small things and does not give instructions clearly, often miscommunication happens. Even one my senior are leaving now. Well, she is leaving to a competitor company, and my boss told her that we are not allowed to go to competitor firm. Is this because of the clause attached? I think it only says that they can terminate us immediately if we are found to go to their competitor. I will not be leaving now, cause inexperienced fresh grad plus covid difficult to find job. However asking in advance probably will leave to a competitor after gaining some experience.
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QUOTE(Fantastic1218 @ May 8 2021, 06:46 PM)
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I am currently working in accounting firm starting Jan this year, beginner, and I found my manager is too picky over small things and does not give instructions clearly, often miscommunication happens. Even one my senior are leaving now. Well, she is leaving to a competitor company, and my boss told her that we are not allowed to go to competitor firm. Is this because of the clause attached? I think it only says that they can terminate us immediately if we are found to go to their competitor. I will not be leaving now, cause inexperienced fresh grad plus covid difficult to find job. However asking in advance probably will leave to a competitor after gaining some experience.
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How will they know where your senior is joining? If she tutup mulut, hard to find out where she is going.

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ May 9 2021, 03:43 PM)
How will they know where your senior is joining? If she tutup mulut, hard to find out where she is going.
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Because the big boss ask her directly, so she have to tell right.
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Hi, I found a job and signed the offer letter. However, I have few doubts on below:-

1) New co wish to buy out me for a month. I have signed the offer letter but haven't submit the resignation letter. Actually should I discuss with my boss/ HR prior to the signing? The new co concerns is that my current co will not let me to leave earlier. But if I asked earlier, it will trigger them my motive to leave. If I ask later, will there a possibility that they don't let me go early and I burn the bridge for both side? Or I should do it when I submit my resignation letter?
2) for the buy out, new co wants me to pay first then reimburse later with receipt. Should I ask a black and white from them?

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QUOTE(Ggg123ggg @ May 10 2021, 01:38 PM)
Hi, I found a job and signed the offer letter. However, I have few doubts on below:-

1) New co wish to buy out me for a month. I have signed the offer letter but haven't submit the resignation letter. Actually should I discuss with my boss/ HR prior to the signing? The new co concerns is that my current co will not agree with one month buy out. But if I asked earlier, it will trigger them my motive to leave. Will there a possibility that they don't let me go early and I burn the bridge for both side?
2) for the buy out, new co wants me to pay first then reimburse later with receipt. Should I ask a black and white from them?
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Personal experiece: Sign offer letter and inform on the joining date then tender resignation letter. After that inform your current co there is 1 mth buy out plan and see how they respond. If no concern then you may proceed, if they insist then you can still buyout but might leave in bad terms depend on how you negotiate (they cant force you to stay anyway).

But if they insist and then you finally decided to fully serve the notice period, then you may go back to your future employer and tell them you want to complete all your project first before resigning and if they are ok to wait.

Ultimately is up to you, you need to stay firm on your decision and dont easily moved as one side will insist you to fully serve and the onther side will ask you to buyout.

For second you can email your HR for black and white ask them if any buyout plan and they will reply from there. My 2cents
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QUOTE(Michael_Light @ May 10 2021, 01:58 PM)
Personal experiece: Sign offer letter and inform on the joining date then tender resignation letter. After that inform your current co there is 1 mth buy out plan and see how they respond. If no concern then you may proceed, if they insist then you can still buyout but might leave in bad terms depend on how you negotiate (they cant force you to stay anyway).

But if they insist and then you finally decided to fully serve the notice period, then you may go back to your future employer and tell them you want to complete all your project first before resigning and if they are ok to wait.

Ultimately is up to you, you need to stay firm on your decision and dont easily moved as one side will insist you to fully serve and the onther side will ask you to buyout.

For second you can email your HR for black and white ask them if any buyout plan and they will reply from there. My 2cents
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Hi, thanks for your prompt response. Too bad the new co can't wait for me to serve full notice. For the black and white, they thinking to provide me after I noticed my boss/HR on the buy out plan and they accept it. Is there a red flag for this?

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QUOTE(Ggg123ggg @ May 10 2021, 03:19 PM)
Hi, thanks for your prompt response. Too bad the new co can't wait for me to serve full notice. For the black and white, they thinking to provide me after I noticed my boss/HR on the buy out plan and they accept it. Is there a red flag for this?
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Shit. I think negotiate with the new co more and get them to draft something up for you first as a formality... tell HR, I'm sure they'll understand (there's a chance of you being left stranded with bad relationships to both companies). If the new co don't even want to help you smoothen the process...I think it's a red flag of sorts.
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QUOTE(Fantastic1218 @ May 9 2021, 09:50 PM)
Because the big boss ask her directly, so she have to tell right.
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Ermm no?
You can stay silent and not answer.

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Can use annual leave to shorten notice period ?
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Hi all, I am going to tender resignation in my current job which I've been holding for almost 14 years and want to use this letter format.

My contract notice period is 3 months, but I also have about 40 days accumulated leave which I intend to use some to offset my notice period. My questions are:

1) If I use let's say, 10 days to reduce my notice period, I will not be receiving any pay during that 10 days right?

2) Secondly, let's say during my notice period of 3 months, I want to take some leave (let's say during CNY). After my leave, I will come back to work to continue my notice period. Will I be receiving any pay during this leave? (I am guessing no since it's basically no difference from Q1)

3) Lastly, since I intend to setoff some of my notice period with my accumulated leave, is the resignation letter format above still usable or do I need to amend it?

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Oct 25 2021, 03:30 PM)
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Hi all, I am going to tender resignation in my current job which I've been holding for almost 14 years and want to use this letter format.

My contract notice period is 3 months, but I also have about 40 days accumulated leave which I intend to use some to offset my notice period. My questions are:

1) If I use let's say, 10 days to reduce my notice period, I will not be receiving any pay during that 10 days right?

2) Secondly, let's say during my notice period of 3 months, I want to take some leave (let's say during CNY). After my leave, I will come back to work to continue my notice period. Will I be receiving any pay during this leave? (I am guessing no since it's basically no difference from Q1)

3) Lastly, since I intend to setoff some of my notice period with my accumulated leave, is the resignation letter format above still usable or do I need to amend it?
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1) Depends on the HR policy but you should get pay as those are accumulated paid leave and not unpaid leave
2) Answer same as 1)
3) The letter although you stated what you calculated, you can include in a caveat to say that it will also be determined after discussion with HR and line manager.

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I have some quick question for the following scenario:

- I received an offer and have tendered resignation (1 month)

- Resignation accepted by HR and provided me checklist to handover

- During my notice period 1 month, no one informed me that my final salary will be hold maximum 30 days from my final date at the office.

- On my last day, colleague informed me that they will hold my salary for 30 days.

- Emailed HR to ask some question as below:
1) Is there any salary hold? (yes/no)
2) Why is there such salary hold for my final salary?
3) When will I expect to get my salary, if can't be exact, just let me know estimation for my financial planning for my commitment.


- The HR didn't answer all question above, and just informed me "We are in the midst of calculating and confirming your final salary to ensure the final pay is correct".

- Now 1 week has passed from my last day at this company and now I'm no longer an employee. I am quite angry because they did not inform me at first and I am currently have financial difficulties.

- I've checked my offer letter and there is no such thing or sentence mentioning holding my salary upon termination. I've also consulted ex-employee where 1 person get her salary AFTER 2 MONTH from last day, and 1 person received salary after a week but he is quite senior in position and keep pushing around.

My question is:
1. Does employer are allowed to do so?
2. What would be my best action to push for my final salary faster?


Thanks

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