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Supermanreturn
post Jan 19 2016, 07:15 AM

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Hi,

I have to give 7 days in notice for resignation. Is the 7 days including weekend,public holiday or annual leave? Thanks
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Supermanreturn @ Jan 19 2016, 07:15 AM)
Hi,

I have to give 7 days in notice for resignation. Is the 7 days including weekend,public holiday or annual leave? Thanks
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Annual leave is included in your notice period BUT it is subject to management approval. That's why some people use leave to offset notice period.

7 days include weekend and public holidays.

if 7 days = normally interpreted as "calendar days".
if 7 working days = normally interpreted as "working days only".
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Sethhh @ Jan 18 2016, 11:08 PM)
thanks for replying

i mean how many days of notice period do i have to give for resignation if i didn't sign any offer letter and confirmation letter?

yup, I'm physically working with my employer now.

sorry, it can be considered as my first job, i duno much besides those which i can find from google
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i mean how many days of notice period do i have to give for resignation if i didn't sign any offer letter and confirmation letter?

Looks like a sticky situation.

If no offer/confirmation letter, I would assume 24 hours’ notice is reasonable i.e. I tell my boss I am not coming in to work tomorrow.

Most likely they will threaten you i.e. blacklist you, withhold salary and some will go to the extent you are still subject to company policy… etc

The next question will be how badly you want to leave…

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post Jan 19 2016, 09:17 AM

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Hi aurora97,
I would like to seek for your professional advice.

I summitted my resignation dated on 14 Dec 2015. I have discussed with HR regarding the last day and confirm with them , and they have issued me the acceptance of resignation letter dated 5th of Jan 2016 with singnature of HR manager.

In the letter, it clearly stated that I have 10 days leave balances, last working day is 22 of January(after deducted the CNY public holiday and annual leave).

Now, the argument is my superior complaint with HR why my last day so early, and they planned to change my last working day to 29th of January because they forfeits my replacement leave and use different way to calculate my last day.

So they want to reissue the acceptance of resignation letter and the reason they gave me is I dint get approval from my superior ,but get approval from superior is not practice in my department. And I also dint get any exit checklist and advise from any party that I must get approval from my superior even I resigned on 1 month ago.

My question is, they got right to reissue the letter ? They send me an email mention want to withhold my salary until my superior approve. HR manager should not issue me the letter without proper checking on my leave and without confirm with my superior.
What should I need to do next? Thank you.


I don’t give professional advice.

Share your concerns in forum with everyone, so that everyone else can feedback to your queries. I think ultimately forum is a place where there is wealth of knowledge you can look for or ask from person who has experience to solve your problems.

That aside...

Now your question.

Tell them… that you will take the letter dated 14 Dec 2015 and go to labour department and ask for advice. Also, make emphasis that they will withhold your salary.

Watch reaction on HR Manager’s face.

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post Jan 19 2016, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jan 19 2016, 09:17 AM)
I don’t give professional advice.

Share your concerns in forum with everyone, so that everyone else can feedback to your queries. I think ultimately forum is a place where there is wealth of knowledge you can look for or ask from person who has experience to solve your problems.

That aside...

Now your question.

Tell them… that you will take the letter dated 14 Dec 2015 and go to labour department and ask for advice. Also, make emphasis that they will withhold your salary.

Watch reaction on HR Manager’s face.
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I agree with this. An official letter has been issued and deem as accepted. Now the company is just trying to manipulate the situation to their advantage. The department head should handled the last day issue with HR, not trying to trouble the employee. Just threaten them with Labour Law.... high chances is they will drop the issue.
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jan 19 2016, 09:10 AM)
i mean how many days of notice period do i have to give for resignation if i didn't sign any offer letter and confirmation letter?

Looks like a sticky situation.

If no offer/confirmation letter, I would assume 24 hours’ notice is reasonable i.e. I tell my boss I am not coming in to work tomorrow.

Most likely they will threaten you i.e. blacklist you, withhold salary and some will go to the extent you are still subject to company policy… etc

The next question will be how badly you want to leave…
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I see, thanks~

so badly that I don't even want to take the bonus haha

if withhold salary only I don't really care, just afraid it will affect my next job

now a bit annoyed because got 2 boss keep on wanna negotiate...
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jan 19 2016, 09:05 AM)
Annual leave is included in your notice period BUT it is subject to management approval. That's why some people use leave to offset notice period.

7 days include weekend and public holidays.

if 7 days = normally interpreted as "calendar days".
if 7 working days = normally interpreted as "working days only".
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My contract stated 7 days in notice. Is that means if I tender my resignation on 1 Feb, my last day will be 5 Feb? Thanks
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post Jan 19 2016, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Supermanreturn @ Jan 19 2016, 09:38 PM)
My contract stated 7 days in notice. Is that means if I tender my resignation on 1 Feb, my last day will be 5 Feb? Thanks
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It is something like that. However some company expect you to work full 7 working days; some 1 eye close let you off early. Really depends on how your HR works in your company.
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post Feb 4 2016, 05:00 PM

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omg ...I want.. i dont know how to discuss with my HOD and HR... Delima owhh... serba salah want to say..

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QUOTE(Dark9 @ Feb 4 2016, 05:00 PM)
omg ...I want.. i dont know how to discuss with my HOD and HR... Delima owhh... serba salah want to say..
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Craft your story. Know well clear why you are leaving. Ask for personal time, stick to the facts.
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post Feb 14 2016, 02:21 AM

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What if i just go mia after tendering my resignation without serving the 2 months notice period.
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post Feb 15 2016, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Feb 14 2016, 02:21 AM)
What if i just go mia after tendering my resignation without serving the 2 months notice period.
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Depends on what field you in. if is a small field, our are most likely ton beblacklist by the current company, they will say bad things about you and you can't find any other jobs at are in the same field.

Why can't learn in good terms?
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post Feb 15 2016, 02:00 AM

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Just saying. I will prolly leave after one month and pay them a month salary.

Dont really like my current job and looking to leave asap.
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Feb 14 2016, 02:21 AM)
What if i just go mia after tendering my resignation without serving the 2 months notice period.
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You can be hauled up to the Labour court or worse, black listed from the industry if it is small and close knitted. You are much better off paying the penalty (or getting your new company to pay it) than to resort to this.
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post Feb 15 2016, 04:31 PM

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If a surgeon gave you a week or two Sick Leave post surgery as a time period to recuperate, is it considered as my annual MC entitlement or under hospitalization leave?

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post Feb 24 2016, 11:37 AM

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Hey all, is it possible to get fired once you have tendered your resignation letter?

For example, let say notice period is 3 months, does the employer have the right to fire you during the notice period?


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QUOTE(KKautocar @ Feb 15 2016, 04:31 PM)
If a surgeon gave you a week or two Sick Leave post surgery as a time period to recuperate, is it considered as my annual MC entitlement or under hospitalization leave?
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Are u given in patient or out patient care?

Both r different entitlements, if you are given in patient care, than u claim for hospitalisation.

If outpatient than it will be MC.


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QUOTE(Shinka @ Feb 24 2016, 11:37 AM)
Hey all, is it possible to get fired once you have tendered your resignation letter?

For example, let say notice period is 3 months, does the employer have the right to fire you during the notice period?
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Normally, if employer fire a staff he has to pay 3mth salary in lieu of notice.

In this case, u got asked to leave early during ur notice period. Employers sometime do it especially for a person everyday just come in office stare at ceiling..why pay salary blindly?

Now the question is...
If u fire me, I get 3mths salary. If I tender n u terminate me early, do I get balance remaining month salary?
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post Feb 24 2016, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 24 2016, 01:33 PM)
Normally, if employer fire a staff he has to pay 3mth salary in lieu of notice.

In this case, u got asked to leave early during ur notice period. Employers sometime do it especially for a person everyday just come in office stare at ceiling..why pay salary blindly?

Now the question is...
If u fire me, I get 3mths salary. If I tender n u terminate me early, do I get balance remaining month salary?
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Yeah I'm not too sure on that too. I think if you tender or got fired during the notice period, the employer is still responsible for paying you the balance.

Anyone can give further advice? lol
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post Feb 24 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 24 2016, 01:28 PM)
Are u given in patient or out patient care?

Both r different entitlements, if you are given in patient care, than u claim for hospitalisation.

If outpatient than it will be MC.
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inpatient. I was admitted for 2 nights.

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