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TSaurora97
post Nov 6 2015, 11:19 AM

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2 questions

1.Can I resign on today however choose to serve till end of December?
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Should I resign on December 1 and serve my 1 month notice?
Misleading statement. You should tender your resignation notice and service the notice period. You should serve your notice on 1 Dec, so that you can terminate your employment by 31 December 2015. You will be able to work with the new company from 1 Jan onwards (I note your commencement date is 4 Jan)
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2.Since company(B) got bought over and I've not signed any documents with the newly bought company my notice period will not be jeopardize right?(as in the company(B) will say"we just got bought over and we are now following the new policy that employee must serve x month according to Japan corp.")


I remember my company wanted to impose a certain scheme on all employees, there was a big uproar because it was not stated in the employment contract.

My subsequent company was a bit smarter, they wanted to change the notice period for termination from 1 to 3 months. You have an option to sign or not to sign the letter but it will affect your year-end bonus.

If it’s not in the employment contract you signed, it’s not binding on you. Simple as that.

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The reason I'm thinking of sending in my resignation earlier is due some work responsibilities and project hand over.


Talk to your HR, If you wish to serve longer than your notice period. You can plan out your transition with them. If I am management, I don’t mind a staff staying longer for the purposes of handover. Less headache for me to train the news staff.

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post Nov 15 2015, 07:07 PM

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If the new employer presented to you the offer letter in the office, are you allowed to bring the offer letter back and say u need some time to think about it

Or you cant take the offer letter back and return it the next few days after you make your decision?
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post Nov 16 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(louis6 @ Nov 15 2015, 07:07 PM)
If the new employer presented to you the offer letter in the office, are you allowed to bring the offer letter back and say u need some time to think about it

Or you cant take the offer letter back and return it the next few days after you make your decision?
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Very subjective. Some employers allow it, some don’t.

I reserve my comments on this subject matter because it’s out of scope.

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post Nov 17 2015, 08:51 PM

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I have just resigned from my company and in the contract, it is written as 2 months notice period. With my resignation letter dated on 10 Nov 2015, tendered and acknowledged on the same day, is it correct to say that my last day of employment will be on 9 Jan 2016, not considering any unused annual leave? This is because there is hearsay that HR is an @$$ and calculates it as exactly 60 days even though in the contract, it is clearly stated as 2 months and NOT 60 days.
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QUOTE(Phoenix_Rising @ Nov 17 2015, 08:51 PM)
I have just resigned from my company and in the contract, it is written as 2 months notice period. With my resignation letter dated on 10 Nov 2015, tendered and acknowledged on the same day, is it correct to say that my last day of employment will be on 9 Jan 2016, not considering any unused annual leave? This is because there is hearsay that HR is an @$$ and calculates it as exactly 60 days even though in the contract, it is clearly stated as 2 months and NOT 60 days.
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Your last day of employment would fall on the 8 Jan 2016.

Whereas your effective date of termination will fall on the 10 Jan 2016 (2 months is about 60 days). See link below:-

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded....=2&aw=&ad=&rec=

Some companies have policies that allow employees to use leave to set-off notice period and some don’t. In your case, I believe it’s “don’t” allow. Normally what I would have done is, I would apply for leave way before I tender my resignation.

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post Nov 26 2015, 10:18 PM

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Should we tell our current employer which company we are joining when we resign?
ChaChaZero
post Nov 27 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Nov 26 2015, 10:18 PM)
Should we tell our current employer which company we are joining when we resign?
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No obligation to do so but you can if you want to.
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post Nov 27 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Dec 26 2008, 06:35 PM)
U forgot to put in the part where your supposed to lie about the reason why your leaving the company if the HR person or boss asks you.
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Standard lies for this is: Need to go oversea to study.

Then a few months later meet the same person on the street and he gives you namecard indicating he is working in another company.

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post Nov 30 2015, 06:06 PM

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I've been with a company for a little over a year. Gross pay is between 2 and 2.5k. Never signed any contract or confirmation for employment. How long notice period do I need to give? Would 1 to 2 weeks be sufficient?

If my resignation letter were to say 1 months notice, and my employer verbally agreed to allow me to leave say 2 weeks earlier, if later he decided to play dirty would I be liable to reimburse that 2 weeks period?

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post Dec 3 2015, 01:19 PM

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In calculating any indemnity payment in lieu of notice period, should I be paying the gross salary back to the employer, or the net amount after deducting EPF, SOCSO and PCB? Let's say that I'm 1 month into serving my 2 months notice period, and do not wish to serve my remaining 1 month notice period. My gross monthly salary is RM3,000. Do I need to pay my employer the full RM3,000?
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post Dec 5 2015, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Nov 30 2015, 06:06 PM)
I've been with a company for a little over a year. Gross pay is between 2 and 2.5k. Never signed any contract or confirmation for employment. How long notice period do I need to give? Would 1 to 2 weeks be sufficient?

If my resignation letter were to say 1 months notice, and my employer verbally agreed to allow me to leave say 2 weeks earlier, if later he decided to play dirty would I be liable to reimburse that 2 weeks period?

Thanks
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You should discuss with your Management and come to an amicable solution with respect to your departure.

Always remember to have a contract in place, this not only protects you but also ensure that you will be treated fairly in the event of dismissal.

QUOTE(Phoenix_Rising @ Dec 3 2015, 01:19 PM)
In calculating any indemnity payment in lieu of notice period, should I be paying the gross salary back to the employer, or the net amount after deducting EPF, SOCSO and PCB? Let's say that I'm 1 month into serving my 2 months notice period, and do not wish to serve my remaining 1 month notice period. My gross monthly salary is RM3,000. Do I need to pay my employer the full RM3,000?
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You should be paying the basic salary without EPF and Socso.

I recall the same during my early termination, also you are only required to pay EPF and Socso when you are in an employment.

Early termination doesnt constitute employment.



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post Dec 7 2015, 12:27 PM

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Hi all, i want to asked,
Right now i'm intern at one company, and at end of my intern period, they offered me a job already, and i agree with it.
The twist with it, it not yet valid, as that agreement is valid from 1/1/2016*.
If before that date i decide not to work with them, it is possible?
as in the offer letter it stated i need to inform 1 month before if i want to resign from that company.

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post Dec 7 2015, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(M15T @ Dec 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
Hi all, i want to asked,
Right now i'm intern at one company, and at end of my intern period, they offered me a job already, and i agree with it.
The twist with it, it not yet valid, as that agreement is valid from 1/1/2015.
If before that date i decide not to work with them, it is possible?
as in the offer letter it stated i need to inform 1 month before if i want to resign from that company.
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Am assuming the following:-

(a) you are currently still under an internship arrangement;
(b) your actual employment contract will start on the 1/1/2016.

Technically there is a contract with the company but it has yet to come into effect, you are not subject to the terms contained in the LO (i.e. 1 month notice in lieu of salary for notice to terminate emplyment etc…).

I suggest you talk with your management to come to an amicable solution. Assuming you choose to walk away abruptly, even if your employer doesn’t pursue you in contract, your employer may blacklist you especially on job employment portals.

You may find it very hard to apply for jobs in the future.

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post Dec 8 2015, 04:31 PM

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Hi, question here. I need to serve 2 months notice and I have 9 AL left which only allow 5 days to carry forward next year. If i tender tomorrow, when can I finish my service notice?

Thanks.
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post Dec 8 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(louis6 @ Dec 8 2015, 04:31 PM)
Hi, question here. I need to serve 2 months notice and I have 9 AL left which only allow 5 days to carry forward next year. If i tender tomorrow, when can I finish my service notice?

Thanks.
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9 Feb 2016.

Why not you apply all your 9 days leave within this year 2015 and then tender your resignation tomorrow?

Later your tender and apply for set-off, I don't think HR will allow.
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post Dec 8 2015, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 8 2015, 04:37 PM)
9 Feb 2016.

Why not you apply all your 9 days leave within this year 2015 and then tender your resignation tomorrow?

Later your tender and apply for set-off, I don't think HR will allow.
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I had 4 days applied for the end of the year and 5 days to carry forward. Normally HR not allow set off?
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post Dec 8 2015, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(louis6 @ Dec 8 2015, 04:51 PM)
I had 4 days applied for the end of the year and 5 days to carry forward. Normally HR not allow set off?
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different company got different policies. some allow you to set off during notice period, some say cannot.

i suggest you to apply first now and then only tender your resignation.


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post Jan 14 2016, 01:29 AM

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do anyone know how many days if i didnt sign any offer letter or confirmation letter?
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Sethhh @ Jan 14 2016, 01:29 AM)
do anyone know how many days if i didnt sign any offer letter or confirmation letter?
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a little bit more descriptive about your question please?

why do you need to know the number of days?

are you physically working with your employer now?
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post Jan 18 2016, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:47 AM)
a little bit more descriptive about your question please?

why do you need to know the number of days?

are you physically working with your employer now?
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thanks for replying

i mean how many days of notice period do i have to give for resignation if i didn't sign any offer letter and confirmation letter?

yup, I'm physically working with my employer now.

sorry, it can be considered as my first job, i duno much besides those which i can find from google

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