Do i really need to elaborate every single thing?

is it possible that the game producers are deliberately leaking the single player versions to make boycotter's change their mind? i mean at first i wanted to boycott when i saw how awesome the game was =.=|| insta pre oder

Wow,so,you are willing to spend RM200 for a crap game that you'll throw away after 2-3 months?

Maybe you should buy me a copy so that i get to play the SP too and i get to spend my 60USD for L4D2 and Windows 7.

Thanks,mate.

After browsing through this thread I believe MW2 is going to be full of fail too.

And look, there is a reason they are taking this approach as opposed to something else.

Franchises like Modern Warfare are also meant to function as anglo-american propaganda, to legitimise their wars of conquest and hegemony and covert operations in entire cultures deemed as "evil".

Just look at the gameplay video above. They actually fed us a load of tripe from a fictional general, with platitudes like "what we do here affects us there" ("here"? "there"? WHERE???, and WHAT?), and "victory is written by the winners" and a whole bunch of other bullshit.

Bottomline, America doesn't have any real legitimacy to be in Afghanistan, propaganda like in Modern Warfare 2 helps to obfuscate that simple FACT with blind patriotism and jingoism.

And what do you need to do to impregnate weak minds with propaganda? You got to keep churning out FRESH propaganda often enough so that it seeps into consciousness.

Nuclear weapons in the arms of terrorists is just a fictional bogeyman to further war propaganda.

The Anglo-American alliance and European nations are the ones who have nuclear weapons, and it is America that has threatened people with them, as well as not ruled out nuclear first strikes.

This is for the simple fact that they do intend to use them.

I've not missed your point. But you've missed mine. The "nuclear bomb" in the game mirrors exactly the propaganda repeated by US media outlets, and in fact serves as a fictional casus belli to convince simpletons of the rightness of "pre-emptive action".

These nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists and "rogue nations" does not exist.

The true purpose of such a story is to prepare Americans to suffer losses and to provide a fictional casus belli and convenient bogeyman for whatever military adventure is undertaken.

This has nothing to do with making American military power look good or bad. That point is already MOOT. They have successfully made it so that the average gamer identifies with the "good guys" supposed mission of "making the world safer".

That is all that matters. That people continue to associate American military power with such ideals and values and fictional stories propagated by mass media, contrary to the actual reality.

This game has everything to do with politics.

Attempting to turn a blind eye to its political and propagandic aspects, only means that you willingly collude to subject yourself to it unquestioningly.

If you play a game without being aware of the politics and propaganda behind it, you are not "enjoying it on its own merits".

You are merely wilfully keeping yourself ignorant of REAL WORLD issues that WILL impact your life and that of your loved ones. You merely accede to being SUBJECT to these things without even any ability to COMPREHEND, much less influence events. You have accepted having your eyes put out for the sake of not perceiving things that may disturb your serenity.

So,does that mean we enjoyed our hobby wrongly?

Why do you need me to tell you what to think? Are you some sort of communist?

But more importantly, why does my assertions provoke such strong emotions from you?

Cod4 IS propaganda. Those of you who say otherwise, say so merely because you are disturbed by that reality and cannot reconcile your hobby with it.

ROFL!

Oh really? Have I really said that? Or did you reach that conclusion and make that allusion yourself?
My sight is not omnipotent. It is merely that my point of view threatens and offends yours.

Not really. That statement I made was addressed specifically to Luftwacko, and in general to whomever it would apply.

If it does not apply to you, then it doesn't.

But that does not take away the fact that a lot of people are indeed blind to a lot of things for the sole reason that they have chosen to be so. This is not a personal attack. It is merely an assertion of the psychological root of opposition to something as basic as the obvious propaganda inherent in MW2.

Okay, as for my "pro piracy plea", I shall go back into that thread and edit it out. I was unaware of the rules regarding the matter.

You can indeed banhammer me or whatever, or you can instead take the high road and debate or respectfully disagree in a more mature manner.

Because sadly right now all I see are emotional responses to some mere controversial statements I've made. Only Cheesinium has done otherwise and argued in a non-reactive, non-hyperbolic manner.

And also, this is not a crusade. I made a statement and I stand by it in the face of weak attempts to discredit and ridicule it. I don't think I would be doing it justice if I just gave up at the first sign of opposition.

However I don't really have a stake in the argument, meaning I don't really care, so if you think that it's too much do please tell me and I can desist at any time.

But I hope that instead, people are allowed to meaningfully disagree in here.

Thanks for the feedback. I shall reflect on it.

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Breaks GameStop Pre-Order Record - Pre-orders for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 are 'the highest for any title we've ever sold in our 6,200 store network"...

Although so many critics, no dedi & pricey etc but then gamers still want this game..

They never had the luxury of dedi servers, have they?

I think so. But why gamers still want to buy it? It show people don't care about dedi servers & price as long it's a good game.

Implementing stuff like death streaks,AC130,Nuke Strike,Sentry Guns on a 9v9 match is considered balanced? I really doubt so.Looks more like it's fun to watch than balanced.Pretty much a play for 2 weeks and forget game.

P2P is always epic fail,even with my experience in DoW2 and other RTS.

Yes,escalating from the previous CoD is pretty much what they have been doing to CoD series all these while.Like MW1's single attachment to the current duo attachment in MW2.Thats a great addition.

Still,dont you think that things like AC130, Nukes are a bit over kill for such a small scale combat? Thats a 9v9 combat scale.

The death strikes seems like it's meant to keep casual players happy than pleasing hardcore players.

lol...we need a nuke to kill 9 enemies!!! ..ermm...that include our own troops. but war is about making small sacrifices. bah...

I remember something like this taking over the games industry years back when I was still an avid gamer:

A focus on short development times and churning out as many titles as possible.

You have to understand that for traditional businessmen in the games industry, the console niche is the most profitable one that allows them to maximise profits and provide maximum returns to investors.

I remember back then also feeling aggrieved that not enough effort was being spent enhancing the gameplay experience for PC gamers. Heck, we couldn't even count on patches for damned bugs.

It seems that trends like these come in waves and cycles.

Oh, that's news to me!

Do they work concurrently also? 

How do they handle game engine changes or improvements? 

Blizzard seems to have a huge problem doing the same thing