smoother you mean pimple, blackheard and scar free? i know right and the samples is quite few though. do you know much for the price of hydrating lotion and moisturizing emulsion? i mean the actual produt one not the sample because i'm using the sample since it was my first time. but the mosturizing emulsion kind of oily though.

the last product i've been using is that the neutrogena, nivea, clean and clear, oxy, biore and loreal. i've to admit some of the products not bad but the results were kind of same. not too much good. and now i hope this shisheido will give better results for all the products which i've been using before.

so which one of those cheap brand you think that's good for you? i mean since you're not using shisheido.

i still get pimples once in a while. Shiseido Men is more for hydrating rather than prevent pimples.

Hydrating Lotion - RM130 for 150ml

Moisturizing Emulsion - RM145 for 100ml

dun follow the direction of 1 pump for moisturizing emulsion. its too much. half a pea size or less is enuf. just adjust the amount based on ur skin n preferences.

Hada Labo is pretty good. the toner is very hydrating but light. but i prefer Shiseido Men Hydrating Lotion coz of the alcohol cooling effect as an after shave.

other brands either too heavy or too drying. usually i will only try those cheap brand cleansers. other stuff like toners n moisturizers i dun dare to try.

whoa not bad for the price. shisheido men cleansing foam which is rm95. so that two products? are there any other i mean less that 150 and 100ml? hydrating you mean what? it's just a cleansing foam is it? just to make your skin feel better as for oily to normal skin.

nope nothing smaller than 150 n 100ml. they used to sell a starter pack for RM99 (30ml cleanser, 50ml emulsion n 15ml total revitalizer)...but that was a few yrs ago n i have not seen those packs since.

i guess they didn't sell the starter pack anymore and now they sell more of the contain for emulsion and lotion.

Hmm, i think it is better you ask the seller for further detail ,i believe you can get the ideal answer from the seller.
Also, you may seek advices from her by let her know your current skin condition and problem as what i did last time.
you may add her up in skype, jinzhuoye@hotmail.com
cheeeeers!

btw sorry for double quote your post. i was wondering, do you think it's fine when i'm using the shisheido men cleansing only? at morning without the hydrating lotion and at night for moisturizing emulsion.

depends on your skin condition. just observe n if it doesn't suit u den u make changes. there is no rule that u must use specific products.

make changes? you mean use? so i've been using for few days but sometimes it makes my skin oily and come out like those small whiteheads. lol weird. how about u? u use altogether or without?

for example if ur skin feels dry den use hydrating lotion after cleansing. that sort of changes.

probably its too moisturizing for u. i use the moisturizing emulsion only on dry spots on my face. if no dryness i dun use.

i think so maybe the hydrating lotion seems too much for me when i apply it on whole face. not to mention that lotion already getting least or should i say about to finish as for my sample. i don't see my skin getting dry after using the cleanser. probably when i apply the lotion and at night also for the moisturizer.

maybe u using too much ? u just need a few drops. spread between ur palms n pat onto ur face until absorbed. dun apply using cotton wool.

u gotta be clearer with ur questions. i cant seem to understand some of the things u asking

i don't think so hm. don't apply using cotton wool? i thought i should use the cotton wool? the promoter or the consultant told me to use the soft cotton when applying the hydrating lotion. nevermind cause you've already answered. so right now you're using other brand besides shisheido?

This post has been edited by degraw1993: May 2 2013, 11:35 PM

they also told me to use cotton wool. n its was too sticky. so i just follow the instructions on the bottle which says use palms to apply n it works. using palm method saves time n money as i only need 3-4 drops. cotton wool is more for those oil control deep cleansing toners. hydrating lotion is not those kind of toner.

currently most of my skincare is by Shiseido. but cleanser im using Biore Men coz i wasn't free to go shopping mall to buy Shiseido.

i know right so maybe it's too much when using cotton wool. just use palms or tip of your hands maybe? nah nevermind as my sample hydrating lotion had already finished haha. what's left now is the moisturizing sample.

so you often use those lotion and moisturizing right? at daytime and night.

tips of fingers will be too messy. palm method would be the best.

hydrating lotion i use daily ,every time after washing face/shaving. emulsion i use sometimes, usually when i get any dry spots on the face.

This post has been edited by jonny4: May 2 2013, 11:57 PM

yeah and not to mention my hydrating lotion had already finish so i'm thinking of buying the one instead of sample. maybe the emulsion is for dry skin.

This post has been edited by degraw1993: May 3 2013, 07:43 PM

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sorry lol. hey do you think it's fine when after using the shisheido cleansing foam only? sometimes when i'm using it does clean my face well but the blackheads still there and whiteheads also. your opinion? i'm not using the lotion and moisturizing right now though.

cleansing foam wont get rid of blackheads. prevent maybe can.

try using a gentle scrub n see or those Biore pore pack.